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AeroClassics New Releases for October 2013
Here are the new releases for October 2013. Note, that some models are available in select markets only.
Airbus A320 . Skyservice . C-GTDK ** Available in SELECT MARKETS ONLY **
Airbus A330-200 . Avianca Columbia . N975AV
Airbus A330-200 . Hawaiian . N388HA "Nahiku"
Airbus A330-200 . Jetstar . VH-EBC (white body)
Airbus A330-300 . China Airlines . B-18305 "Flowers"
Airbus A330-300 . China Airlines . B-18308
Airbus A330-300 . China Airlines . B-18311 "Sweet fruits"
Airbus A330-300 . China Airlines . B-18312 "50"
B.707-330B . Lufthansa . D-ABUF . "Hannover" ** Available in EUROPE ONLY **
B.707-330B . Lufthansa . D-ABUK . "Bochum" ** Available in EUROPE ONLY **
B.727-200F . Air Macau Cargo . 9M-TGF ** Available in SELECT MARKETS ONLY **
B.727-200 . Air Transat . C-GAAD ** Available in SELECT MARKETS ONLY **
B.727-200 . Condor - o/c . D-ABKK ** Available in SELECT MARKETS ONLY **
B.727-200 . Hapag-Lloyd . D-AHLU ** Available in SELECT MARKETS ONLY **
B.727-200 . J A T - n/c . YU-AKG ** Available in SELECT MARKETS ONLY **
B.727-200 . T A A - n/c . VH-TBJ ** Available from Collectors Aircraft Models Australia ONLY!! **
B.727-200 . Tunis Air . TS-JHT "Sidi Abu Said"
B.737-300 . Air New Zealand . ZK-NGB
B.737-300 . Air New Zealand . ZK-NGM
B.737-300 . Garuda Indonesia . PK-GGG
B.737-300 . Garuda Indonesia . PK-GGN
Order early to avoid disappointment, as most of these fine creations are extremely Limited Edition models! Enjoy!
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Phooey. One big reason I stopped collecting 1/400 is this kind of nonsense. The only reason they have "Select Markets Only" is to drive the prices up and make them irresistible to collectors who just have to have a 1 of 25 or 1 of 100 model. This will also make the secondary market amazingly expensive.
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Re: AeroClassics New Releases for October 2013
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Phooey. One big reason I stopped collecting 1/400 is this kind of nonsense. The only reason they have "Select Markets Only" is to drive the prices up and make them irresistible to collectors who just have to have a 1 of 25 or 1 of 100 model. This will also make the secondary market amazingly expensive.
With all due respects Steve, this "deal" is catered to fleet builders, and I've yet to see any of these selling at inflated prices.
@ironchef0000.. those DF & HF 722s were all sent to the European distributor less a couple that I've kept for my personal collection
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again another month without a current freighter airplane, loosing my interest already in this hobby. the only hope this month is phoenix but probabbly they will release more boring pax airlines leaving cargo airplanes enthusiasts on the dark side
again another month without a current freighter airplane, loosing my interest already in this hobby. the only hope this month is phoenix but probabbly they will release more boring pax airlines leaving cargo airplanes enthusiasts on the dark side
Don't give up hope. Should be something for you next month.
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Phooey. One big reason I stopped collecting 1/400 is this kind of nonsense. The only reason they have "Select Markets Only" is to drive the prices up and make them irresistible to collectors who just have to have a 1 of 25 or 1 of 100 model. This will also make the secondary market amazingly expensive.
The select market models are just re-releases of old unsold stock for fleet builders so there isn't much to worry about pricewise. It is a rather novel way of creating new models for collectors and not a bad idea except it clouds the releases a bit. All of the select market releases have been done before.
It is a disappointing month for classics collectors (after what was admittedly a rather good month before). Only the Garuda 737s could fit into the classic category (as NZ 737s are still wearing both the schemes shown at the moment). I should however thank Andrew because his recent output has been draining my wallet rather.
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Awesome to see the NZ 737's finally getting a show. Thank you so much for doing something are few of us have been waiting for. I don't care about politics and drama, I care about my fleet and if I want it, I will buy it no matter what
Thanks again for bringing them out. You Rock !
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The select market models are just re-releases of old unsold stock for fleet builders so there isn't much to worry about pricewise. It is a rather novel way of creating new models for collectors and not a bad idea except it clouds the releases a bit. All of the select market releases have been done before.
It is a disappointing month for classics collectors (after what was admittedly a rather good month before). Only the Garuda 737s could fit into the classic category (as NZ 737s are still wearing both the schemes shown at the moment). I should however thank Andrew because his recent output has been draining my wallet rather.
I was just about to post exactly the same Richard! A very disappointing month for us 'classic' collectors expecting something new and different to what has already been released. Once again the Chinese Airbus collectors are served well, but not the rest of the world! Yet another month goes by when the Viscount, Vanguard, Britannia, HS748,Herald, IL-18, DC-3,'4,'6 '7,'8 and '9 moulds sit in the store crying out for new liveries.
Also. still lots of Boeing 707,727 and 737-200 liveries to do that would sell well without rehashing unsold stock.
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DC-8s still needed to be done in 1/400: Air Ceylon, Air Spain, Seaboard World (-63CF)
Comets still missing- Dan Air (4 & 4C), United Arab Airlines/Misrair/Egyptair, Kuwait AW, Sudan AW, East African AW, Saudi Royal Flt.
Caravelles still not made: Luxair, Air Algerie,SABENA (final scheme), Libyan Arab Airlines, SAS ( SCANDINAVIAN titles scheme)
Ilyushin IL-18s still not made: Tarom (billboard,) Malev (1st scheme),Cubana, Balkan/ Tabso-Bulgarian Air Transport,
The select market models are just re-releases of old unsold stock for fleet builders so there isn't much to worry about pricewise. It is a rather novel way of creating new models for collectors and not a bad idea except it clouds the releases a bit. All of the select market releases have been done before......
How would this work? Would this be stock which Retailers had and which was returned to Aeroclassics? I don't know how the business model works. Are models provided on consignment or do retailers pay (upfront or after a set term) for the models which then becomes their problem to sell?
Or, do these re-registrations come from unsold stock from a non-existant warehouse (or similar storage location if one wants to play semantic games)?
In my opinion by taking unsold planes and changing Registration numbers is not doing the hobby any good, especially if it is done in very limited numbers. My reasoning is provided below (and my viewpoint is as a collector. Not a manufacturer).
1) I understand that Aeroclassics already produces 'limited' releases. Thus, by removing already limited numbers from available pool, it creates a situation where it is almost impossible for future collectors to start in the hobby as it would be unaffordable. I started late and I cannot buy 20 models each month. So it will take a while to get my collection to where I want it. But at the rate models are selling-out it is disheartening and leaves a bad sense that manufacturers are not interested in us collectors, but that profit is their only driving force. (Profit is good, but if that is your only goal, then it will turn your customers against you in future).
2) It creates a 'panic buying' phenomenon. Which is kind of ironic seeing that Mr Klein argued against people 'panic buying' models. I am considering myself a 'panic buyer' as some new releases are sold-out almost as soon as they are announced.
The only possible reason I would consider valid for doing something like this is if say 200 models were produced and only 50 were sold. Then taking 100 of the 150 unsold models and re-releasing them as different registations would be good. Hopefully 50 would be bought by fleet builders and there would still be sufficient stock left for future collectors.
What are your thoughts?
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1) I understand that Aeroclassics already produces 'limited' releases. Thus, by removing already limited numbers from available pool, it creates a situation where it is almost impossible for future collectors to start in the hobby as it would be unaffordable. I started late and I cannot buy 20 models each month. So it will take a while to get my collection to where I want it. But at the rate models are selling-out it is disheartening and leaves a bad sense that manufacturers are not interested in us collectors, but that profit is their only driving force. (Profit is good, but if that is your only goal, then it will turn your customers against you in future).
2) It creates a 'panic buying' phenomenon. Which is kind of ironic seeing that Mr Klein argued against people 'panic buying' models. I am considering myself a 'panic buyer' as some new releases are sold-out almost as soon as they are announced.
I don't know how it works and expect I am cruising for a bruising from AK for sticking my beak in so I may well be wrong in the details of it however generally I think I'm correct.
I wouldn't worry too much as it is only the slower sellers that get this treatment. I actually think its an ok way to sell models and create some extra interest for Aeroclassics. It can be frustrating looking for certain models but thanks to Waffle's collection sales Aeroclassics aren't as rare as they might be.
BigBird 747s on the other hand seem very rare - probably because they are so good.
By the way eugenevh I like the African approach to your collection. I wish more African models would be made - I'd like a broader geographical dynamic to the manufacturers output. I know they might not sell well with the average joe but they are a lot more interesting.
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Phooey. One big reason I stopped collecting 1/400 is this kind of nonsense. The only reason they have "Select Markets Only" is to drive the prices up and make them irresistible to collectors who just have to have a 1 of 25 or 1 of 100 model. This will also make the secondary market amazingly expensive.
The 'select markets only' and very limited model availability of Aeroclassics is so terribly irritating...
How would this work? Would this be stock which Retailers had and which was returned to Aeroclassics? I don't know how the business model works. Are models provided on consignment or do retailers pay (upfront or after a set term) for the models which then becomes their problem to sell?
Or, do these re-registrations come from unsold stock from a non-existant warehouse (or similar storage location if one wants to play semantic games)?
As I see it, dealers do not pre-order Aeroclassics but get a compulsary assignment of a specific number of all models made, whether they can sell them or not. They can re-order any that sell-out, subject to stocks, but the slow sellers just sit there gathering dust. There may be some agreement with one or two dealers to recall unsold stock for rework, but I am guessing these are those stored that haven't received any re-orders. If anyone missed out the first time these were released, this is another opportunity for them. I really don't care what reg is on them, as long as its authentic, but it is disappointing for all those collectors that don't want more than one of each type/livery in their collections.
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DC-8s still needed to be done in 1/400: Air Ceylon, Air Spain, Seaboard World (-63CF)
Comets still missing- Dan Air (4 & 4C), United Arab Airlines/Misrair/Egyptair, Kuwait AW, Sudan AW, East African AW, Saudi Royal Flt.
Caravelles still not made: Luxair, Air Algerie,SABENA (final scheme), Libyan Arab Airlines, SAS ( SCANDINAVIAN titles scheme)
Ilyushin IL-18s still not made: Tarom (billboard,) Malev (1st scheme),Cubana, Balkan/ Tabso-Bulgarian Air Transport,
By the way eugenevh I like the African approach to your collection. I wish more African models would be made - I'd like a broader geographical dynamic to the manufacturers output. I know they might not sell well with the average joe but they are a lot more interesting.
Thank you very much.
Honestly, I am secretly 'grateful' that there arn't more new "African" models released. I am desperately trying to get hold of the models that have already been released, but funds are limited, so it is already hard to find older releases at reasonable prices as it is.
I do often find long-sought-for models on Waffle's sales, but you have to almost sit glued to the computer to check as the models tend to disappear rather quickly. Also, as stated before, my funds are limited, so I have lost out on a number of rare models. Such is life. That is why I have a distaste for this 'limited release' numbers.
There are some great earlier Aeroclassics releases of African airlines, but they are rather difficult to get hold of especially when you stay right at the bottom of Africa and there are no dedicated airplane model shops which carry the releases here. Everything basically needs to be imported and shipping costs are expensive too.
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There are some great earlier Aeroclassics releases of African airlines, but they are rather difficult to get hold of especially when you stay right at the bottom of Africa and there are no dedicated airplane model shops which carry the releases here. Everything basically needs to be imported and shipping costs are expensive too.
Tell me about it. You are perhaps in the one place where access to 1:400 models is more difficult and expensive than New Zealand
Over here only Dragonwings are available and then in very limited quantity and at ludicrous prices $70 and up. Without Waffle and a few other select buyers my collection would be far smaller than it is but even then its about $30 USD to get 4 or 5 models shipped over.
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Actually, it's more to do with Asia's economy and how more people are employed in cities now, then back in the seventies when most people still worked on farms. They have moved from a third world economy to a First world and all the benefits of that shift.
Running water and sewerage, 24 hour round the clock electricity, sealed roads and an Asian manufacturing heartland along with increased wages all means these people can now afford Aeroclassics, phoenix etc...!
All the while, we in the West, wait for our governments to shut down and stocks plummet along with interest rate rises, all the while pushing our disposable income to breaking point. Seems many on this thread complain that even buying a couple of models this month will break their banks. Thank goodness for the Asians wanting to buy Aeroclassics, phoenix etc...
Tongue firmly in check (as well as cheek)! Lou
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Darn, that Avianca is gorgeous!!
I don't mind her to accompany the two Garudas...
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Not bad, but why so many CI? They have been released at least twice by phoenix and DW.
Can you quickly locate all four of them and they are for sale? I searched Ebay. None there. Ez Toys has one of the four and the price is higher. Maybe it's time for another round of these?
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taking unsold planes and changing Registration numbers
There are several claims of this in the thread but I just can't see that any models are being 're-worked' like this. Is it really feasible for a manufacturer to 'erase' the previous reg and put on a new one with tampo printing?
Anyway, I'll still be picking up the Avianca, HA, Jetstar, and Chinese buses, and the Condor 727 as well
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again another month without a current freighter airplane, loosing my interest already in this hobby. the only hope this month is phoenix but probabbly they will release more boring pax airlines leaving cargo airplanes enthusiasts on the dark side
Everyone here does realize if they received all of the models they want, they would have nothing collectable to look forward to?
It's all good.
Plus, it might take a few AeroCurrents to generate additional cash for the Aeroclassics, that and the company might be filling a niche for the new collectors who cannot get the CI birds from the past. It seems like a win-win-win all around.
We know PHX releases 145 models a month, so if there is nothing which strikes you, then count your blessings and get the 1.5% interest on your money this month because PHX/AC/GJ/etc... will release some more great models in the near future and you will want the cash available to send to them. Patience, grasshopper......
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ok so seeing these 727 being repainted, is there a chance to see it repainted in few more US liveries? United Airlines Saul Bass? Perhaps Continental?
Who is responsible for this? Andrew?
One less Air China and one more UA instead, would it hurt the company's income by much?
Aurora has beautiful Mainliner and Friendships which are not that hard to find for those who really need it, but Saul Bass by Dragon Wings is just not a serious model (MMX should agree with me on this one!)
AeroCurrents should be another line in the AeroClassics Brand, that way everyone is happy, so to speak.
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eugenevh.....You are absolutely correct when it comes to Waffle. The minute you read or see his email is when you want to go to his site. Otherwise you snooze and you lose. It's the same with EZ Toys. If you don't get to his website as soon as he sends out the info then chances are you snooze you lose. Understand that not all Aeroclassics are sell outs. You will see on the dealers websites two to three weeks later and some, but not all, of the "new" releases are still there. Aeroclassics has fewer dealers in the USA then GJ, Phoenix or Witty Wings do so you really have to stay glued to your computer and realize that around this time of the month Aeroclassics are announced. Andrew said that he would announce them last night but for some strange reason Waffle beat him to it.
These diecasts are "collectables" which means that they are produced in limited amounts. Some limited to 200, some to 1500. Once they are gone they are gone unless some HO has it on ebay. Just because a model is re-released with a different reg number does not mean it's bad - it's business. Aeroclassics already has a B727-200 mold so they don't have to spend all that money to cut a new mold. Herpa/Hogan already has the B764 mold in 1/400. The high cost for the DL B764 N845MH "Pink" is included as the manufacturer has to pay a high royalty fee to The Cancer Society, Delta and Boeing.
The diecast world is a very small one. Lots of insides going on. Just enjoy the hobby and the models when they arrive. All the other "stuff" is BS.
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Huge thank you from all of us in ZK - land for the Air New Zealand 737-300. A first in 1:400!
Awesome stuff AC. I'm going to have to find a new aircraft to pester you for. How about an Air NZ F-27?
Huge thank you from all of us in ZK - land for the Air New Zealand 737-300. A first in 1:400!
Awesome stuff AC. I'm going to have to find a new aircraft to pester you for. How about an Air NZ F-27?
Thanks heaps from me too. Awesome to finally see them in metal.
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Everyone here does realize if they received all of the models they want, they would have nothing collectable to look forward to?
A good point, but sometimes it is not months, but years before some really important classics appear. If the delay goes on much longer, there will not be a market for them, as those that appreciate and would buy them will no longer be on this earth!
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It's all good.
Plus, it might take a few AeroCurrents to generate additional cash for the Aeroclassics, that and the company might be filling a niche for the new collectors who cannot get the CI birds from the past. It seems like a win-win-win all around.
How many sales of Airbuses does it take to generate the release of, for example, an Alitalia propliner? Not one single Alitalia propliner has been released in 1/400 scale! No DC-3, DC-4, DC-6, DC-7C or Viscount.
South African Airways - we only have ONE propliner from this long-established flag carrier - no orange-tailed DC-3, DC-4, DC-7B or Viscount!
What is the point in investing in these moulds if they are not going to be used?
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DC-8s still needed to be done in 1/400: Air Ceylon, Air Spain, Seaboard World (-63CF)
Comets still missing- Dan Air (4 & 4C), United Arab Airlines/Misrair/Egyptair, Kuwait AW, Sudan AW, East African AW, Saudi Royal Flt.
Caravelles still not made: Luxair, Air Algerie,SABENA (final scheme), Libyan Arab Airlines, SAS ( SCANDINAVIAN titles scheme)
Ilyushin IL-18s still not made: Tarom (billboard,) Malev (1st scheme),Cubana, Balkan/ Tabso-Bulgarian Air Transport,
South African Airways - we only have ONE propliner from this long-established flag carrier - no orange-tailed DC-3, DC-4, DC-7B or Viscount!
What is the point in investing in these moulds if they are not going to be used?
You have my full support with that statement.
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Geez the Chinese market must be hungry for so many chinese versions of the essentially the same plane.
The white hybrid Jetstar will be a welcome addition to the fleet.
There are several claims of this in the thread but I just can't see that any models are being 're-worked' like this. Is it really feasible for a manufacturer to 'erase' the previous reg and put on a new one with tampo printing?
Anyway, I'll still be picking up the Avianca, HA, Jetstar, and Chinese buses, and the Condor 727 as well
sure it is ... within reason. depends on what needs to be changed. if it's just reg #s ... then it is easy to remove the previous tampo prints and reprint them
whether or not that is what is being done is another matter entirely
Geez the Chinese market must be hungry for so many chinese versions of the essentially the same plane.
The white hybrid Jetstar will be a welcome addition to the fleet.
the cost for the artwork is in creating the rubber tampo printing pads and setting up the jigs, et al to actually print the models.
ergo for every release that shares printing pads ... well you decrease the average cost for the artwork.
therefore ... if you make 1000 units ... and release 4 different registrations ... your overall cost is divided by 4 and the only additional expense is for the registration number printing.
This is how model trains work ... not sure why we haven't seen it more in model planes ... would lead to less inventory as those who only want 1 version will get 1 and those who want more than 1 will buy more than one reg. which means less left over inventory overall
AeroClassics New Releases for October 2013
Aeroclassics??? 
Whatever next! 
, but now seems like AC is getting busy with Indonesian fleet... 
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