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Old 06-11-2013, 09:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was very pleased to see that despite its no doubt lucrative foray into the world of modern Airbus twins that Aeroclassics continues to also stay true to its roots and has pleased classic collectors everywhere with their new C-46 releases (Chinese Air Force and Pan Am).

I always think that the C-46 is a widely overlooked type, which I guess isn't a surprise when you shared the stage with the C-47/DC-3, but despite this over 3,000 were built. The type sufferred quite badly from mid-air explosions and poor serviceability during WW2 but a wing vent modification enable pooled gasoline to drain away seems to have solved the explosion issue at least!

The powerful engines, which helped to make it the largest twin engine aircraft of WW2, were not terribly efficient and meant it was up to 50% more expensive to operate than the DC-3, which killed its chances as a pax aeroplane.n However the same engines made it an excellent freight type especially in rough field areas like Alaska and South America.

Unsurprisingly there have been a wide variety of operators, mainly in the New World, which can lend themselves to some interesting 1:400 models. Personally I prefer the classic operators but there have been quite a few C-46s pottering around until fairly recently.

Below I list just a few civil operators which would look great.

USA

Alaska Airlines


Braniff International



Capitol Airways



Delta Air Lines



Everts Air Cargo


Flying Tigers


Modern Air Transport


Reeve Aleutian


Rich International




Seaboard World


Wien Alaska


Caribbean

Air Haiti


Bahamasair


Dominicana


South America

Austral


LASA


North East Bolivian


Taba


Varig


VASP


Canada

Air Manitoba


Buffalo Airways
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I have only ever seen one Curtiss C-46 in service ..... LN-FOS Fred Olsen

plus a few derelict examples in Florida, so it would have to be the former.
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Saw a few operational C-46s in the Philippines, but liveries that would sell on this mould would have to be carefully selected. Many operated by small-time and obscure operators and those models would just sit on dealers shelves if made. The Fred Olsen scheme is nice and that Seaboard World is a classic that surely would fly off the shelves, as would Lufthansa and Capitol Airlines.,
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Would the Prototype that BOAC used in WW2 be suitable for this mould?

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Saw a few operational C-46s in the Philippines, but liveries that would sell on this mould would have to be carefully selected. Many operated by small-time and obscure operators and those models would just sit on dealers shelves if made. The Fred Olsen scheme is nice and that Seaboard World is a classic that surely would fly off the shelves, as would Lufthansa and Capitol Airlines.,
Agreed, I think the Delta, Braniff, Flying Tigers, Alaska, Reeve and Varig liveries would also sell well.
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I would love to see a Buffalo Airways c-46
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I would love to see a Buffalo Airways c-46

I like that one.

Everts too.
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I was very pleased to see that despite its no doubt lucrative foray into the world of modern Airbus twins that Aeroclassics continues to also stay true to its roots and has pleased classic collectors everywhere with their new C-46 releases (Chinese Air Force and Pan Am).

I always think that the C-46 is a widely overlooked type, which I guess isn't a surprise when you shared the stage with the C-47/DC-3, but despite this over 3,000 were built.
I totally agree with you ! Let me add a few ones to your already nice list :

REAL


LANICA


CAT


APSA


Aerocondor


To start with.
There are others I'd like to see (Aigle Azur, LAB, Ecuatoriana, for example), but it's hard to find good pics of them.
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USAAF
USAF
USN (as R5C)
USMC (as R5C)

Civilian operator: Slick Airways (I have a photo to prove it)

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USN (as R5C)
USMC (as R5C)

Civilian operator: Slick Airways (I have a photo to prove it)

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Yeah I'd love some Slick Airways especially a CL-44
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My Clipper C-46 arrived and Aeroclassics have yet again done a great job with the mould.


Pan Am Curtiss C-46 Commando by rstretton, on Flickr


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Pan Am Curtiss C-46 Commando by rstretton, on Flickr
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Great to see the two of the Commando's on this list completed plus the EL AL and Lufty.

If only Nordair had a more interesting livery. That Blue N scheme was just tedious and it graces so many Aeroclassics.

Still the more the merrier.
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I'll admit I didn't know much about this plane. Looks like a cigar with wings.
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A Venerable Aircraft Indeed. I Prefer It To The DC-3. No It Was Not Effecient, But Let's Look At The Bright Side. It Could Carry Twice The Payload At Twice The Distance Than The DC-3.
It's The Same Arguement Propliners Vs Jetliners As A Whole. Jets Burned Much More Fuel Than Propliners, But The Were 3 Times Bigger, Carried Up To 5 Times The Payload And You Could Do 2 Trips In The Time A Propliner Could Do One.
Buffalo Airways Swears By Them.
Speaking Of Buffalo, A Fleet Of Buffalo In 1/400 Would Likely Get Me Back In To Collecting. That Is If They Are Not Exaggerated Like That Draw Decal Example.

On Another Note That Seaboard World Is Sexy As Is The Varig. Some Primo Examples Of Them Would Prolly Bend My Rubber Arm.
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...And WITHOUT The Speckle Of That Pan Am Models/Aeroclassics Example
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The Braniff And Reeve Aleutian Are Also No Brainers.
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Do not forget the C-46 Air Force Institute USSR
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...And WITHOUT The Speckle Of That Pan Am Models/Aeroclassics Example
...and not so keen on the grey windows either. Would be better darker!
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The missing B.707s still needed to be done in 1/400: Uganda Airlines, Luxair,

DC-8s still needed to be done in 1/400: UAT, Iberia ('80s scheme), Air Ceylon, Air Spain, Seaboard World (-63CF)

Aeroclassics Comets still missing- Dan Air (4 & 4C), United Arab Airlines/Misrair/Egyptair, Kuwait AW, Sudan AW, East African AW, Saudi Royal Flt.
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Do the AC 1:400 C-46s come in kit form, like the WM (pseudo-AC) 1:200 C-46s do?

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Do the AC 1:400 C-46s come in kit form, like the WM (pseudo-AC) 1:200 C-46s do?

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I don't believe AeoClassics has ever done a kit previously.

Besides, i would think that a 1/400 C-46 would be too small for a kit.

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I don't believe AeoClassics has ever done a kit previously.

Besides, i would think that a 1/400 C-46 would be too small for a kit.

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I think Andy is being sarcastic Dan!
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The missing B.707s still needed to be done in 1/400: Uganda Airlines, Luxair,

DC-8s still needed to be done in 1/400: UAT, Iberia ('80s scheme), Air Ceylon, Air Spain, Seaboard World (-63CF)

Aeroclassics Comets still missing- Dan Air (4 & 4C), United Arab Airlines/Misrair/Egyptair, Kuwait AW, Sudan AW, East African AW, Saudi Royal Flt.
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Andy is being Andy... The Provocateur!!

He is a nice bloke by the way!
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Many a C-46 have assorted antennae & directionals below cockpit.
Those would be welcome in kit form ala D10 nosegear , or, Il-62 ground equipment.

C46, A True Classic if there ever was one !
CAT, Buffalo & Varig for me, did Air France ever operate any examples ???
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C46, A True Classic if there ever was one !
CAT, Buffalo & Varig for me, did Air France ever operate any examples ???
To my knowledge, Air France didn't operate the C-46. But ALITALIA did. In the absence of an Alitalia Viscount, I'd settle for a C-46 anytime,
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...and not so keen on the grey windows either. Would be better darker!
I've Been Fighting For Black Windows Forever. A Waste Of Breath It Seems. The Manufacturers Seem To Think Most Collectors Prefer The Grey. I Don't. It Looks Highly Unrealistic.
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To my knowledge, Air France didn't operate the C-46. But ALITALIA did. In the absence of an Alitalia Viscount, I'd settle for a C-46 anytime,
Air France May Or May Not Have, I Don't know, But Varig And SATA Of Brasil (Later Absorbed By Varig) Each Did. Close Enough To Air France To Me.
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To my knowledge, Air France didn't operate the C-46. But ALITALIA did. In the absence of an Alitalia Viscount, I'd settle for a C-46 anytime,

No, never happened to see a picture of an Air France C-46. But have solid reasons to think they never operated the type, because they were relying on plenty of DC-3s, DC-4s and Deux Ponts as cargo haulers at the time.

I am quite surprised that no one had mentioned Alitalia as an operator so far. Alitalia bought two C-46 around 1962. They were later transferred to the subsidiary SAM (Società Aerea Mediterranea), and their livery was updated before being disposed of upon delivery of the DC-9F at the end of the decade. Curious is that, despite they entered into service when the tricolor tail had been the official livery for a couple of years, they were both painted in the older, pre-jet age scheme with the white tail and the small Italian flag.
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No, never happened to see a picture of an Air France C-46. But have solid reasons to think they never operated the type, because they were relying on plenty of DC-3s, DC-4s and Deux Ponts as cargo haulers at the time.

I am quite surprised that no one had mentioned Alitalia as an operator so far. Alitalia bought two C-46 around 1962. They were later transferred to the subsidiary SAM (Società Aerea Mediterranea), and their livery was updated before being disposed of upon delivery of the DC-9F at the end of the decade. Curious is that, despite they entered into service when the tricolor tail had been the official livery for a couple of years, they were both painted in the older, pre-jet age scheme with the white tail and the small Italian flag.
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Air France May Or May Not Have, I Don't know, But Varig And SATA Of Brasil (Later Absorbed By Varig) Each Did. Close Enough To Air France To Me.
Air France ALMOST operated a C-46 ... was to be leased from MM Landy ... but the deal was CXLD (would have been N2074A msn 30333 (C-46A-CU))

As for Alitalia
I-SILV C-46A-CK msn 392
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With the release of another selection of C-46s from Aeroclassics in 1/400, after five years since the first batch, perhaps time to revive this thread for the next wave? I would buy any of these:

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Aeroclassics Comets still missing- Dan Air (4 & 4C), United Arab Airlines/Misrair/Egyptair, Kuwait AW, Sudan AW, East African AW, Saudi Royal Flt.
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I’m really glad they finally released Reeve Aleutian. Better late than never, certainly!
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Just picked up a National from Waffle, glad I got it.
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My wishlist is still valid.
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