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Old 05-28-2013, 12:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello Everyone !!
i would like to know why in the 777-200 freighters division are so many variant, for example i was looking at airliners.net for 777 cargo airplane and realized that all the airlines operating the 777 cargo are different
Fedex use F28, FS2,FHT
Emirates F1H
China cargo, Lan cargo & ethiopian cargo F6N
Aerologic FZN
Korean air cargo FB5
China southern cargo F1B
Qatar cargo FDZ
etihad cargo FFX
TNT airways FHT
southern air FZB
what"s the difference between all these numbers ??
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Old 05-28-2013, 02:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I THINK what you are referring to are the Boeing customer codes?

The F is for Freighter, the two after that is the Boeing code for the customer who placed the order. It could have been sold to another airline later, or could have been ordered with a sub-lease in mind.

Fedex - F28 = the 28 is the Boeing code for Air France;
S2 = FedEx Express;
HT=Guggenheim Investment Fund
The 28 I see as an airplane built for AirFrance and then bought by FedEx
Similarly, the HT could be a leased plane.
Emirates = 1H

6N = GECAS (CE Capital Aviation Services Ltd)
ZN = Aerologic
B5 = Korean Air
1B = China Southern Airlines
DZ = Qatar Airways
FX = Etihad Airways
ZB = Southern Air
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Old 05-28-2013, 05:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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thanks so much eugenevh for the info, now i can understand the meaning, the other question is if the 777 freighters has another engine beside the GE-90-110B ??
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thanks so much eugenevh for the info, now i can understand the meaning, the other question is if the 777 freighters has another engine beside the GE-90-110B ??
Eugenevh...you might want to do some homework and hit the web search engines. Sometimes more interesting that way.
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thanks so much eugenevh for the info, now i can understand the meaning, the other question is if the 777 freighters has another engine beside the GE-90-110B ??
The 777-F has only one engine option ...

as for older (or other) Boeing aircraft ... the engine type is not part of the model number like Airbus ... The Boeing Customer Codes reflect an entire collection of options that are custom to a particular airline ... from engine type to lavatories to seats ... hence all Alaska 737-X00s are 737-X90s.

BTW ... here is a list: The Airline Codes Web Site - Boeing Customer Codes
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Old 05-30-2013, 02:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
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@Alaska Fan, that is a great link to a free site to get some of the Boeing Customer Codes.

@Caclm - I use 'The Bible' for airplane spotting it is called - JP Airline Fleets - World Airline Fleet Directory.

It contains a massive amount of information on each active airliner (or rather active until just before publication each year).

The main Fleet Lists will provide you information about
Aircraft registration
Type of aircraft
Construction and/or Serial-number/Fuselage Line number
Ex Registration
Manufactured Date
Delivery Date
Number and Engine Model
Maximum Take Off Weight
Pax Configuration
HEX Code
Aircraft Name/Fin/Specialities/Remarks

It also has an index of ICAO Three-letter abbreviations,
IATA two-letter abbreviations,
Leasing Company designators (four-letter),
Boeing Company customer codes (with a couple more entries than on the excellent site Alaska fan provided)
A look-up table for aircraft operating outside their country of registration
Call-sign look-up table,
Storage location look-up,
Country Registration Code,

It is an invaluable resource, but sadly it costs a bit of money.
But at 772 pages, it contains a lot of information.

I've just ordered the 2013/2014 book which is on special for ordering before end of May.

In this book for instance I see that Fed-Ex B777-F28 N880FD had a previous registration of F-GUOA, but that the second B777-F28 N882FD was previously registered as N449BA, both with engines GE GE90-110B1

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Or you could use this for free Airfleets aviation | Airline Fleet, plane, airport : Boeing Airbus Embraer Atr Fokker Dash Beechcraft
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@SgtMoody,

Yes, that is quite helpful as well.

I find that all technologies are complimentary. No one is 'better' than the other. It depends on the need.

For instance, the book doesn't have a battery go flat at a critical point. And it is quite nice to refer back to previous years to see what was marked off and what changed etc. I looked through my 1988 example the other day and was amazed at how the many changes in well-known airlines since then. Seeing it visually in print is different to seeing scrolling text on a screen (or it may just be for me).


But thank you for providing another great resource to put in my bag of tricks.



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thanks guys for the great help !!!
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