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Re: New American Airlines
Personally, I think that new scheme is bloody awful, and I won't be collecting anything in that livery.
Bring back the lightning bolt!!!
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I really like the new livery but if they wanted their 787s to be bare metal, they would have had to do the same as with their old BAC-111s over the wing area and use metal foil. On the BAC-111 there was a steel section above the wing which couldn't be polished like the aluminium so they covered it with al foil.
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"Here we go again... WHIIIIIIIINE !!!" Yeah, whine we do, but what might that indicate? If the majority of DA.C doesn't like it (and I think that's a fair statement), then neither does the flying public, nor probably many AA employees. There has been some indication that some of the board of directors, and even the CEO don't think much of it either. The squeaky wheel gets the oil. The new livery could go away. Later, Doug
I hope they avoid what Air India did I think in the early 90's? They had several aircraft painted in a new livery,decided they didn't like it,and went back to the previous livery. Although in AA's case,that would be fine with me.
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"Here we go again... WHIIIIIIIINE !!!" Yeah, whine we do, but what might that indicate? If the majority of DA.C doesn't like it (and I think that's a fair statement), then neither does the flying public, nor probably many AA employees. There has been some indication that some of the board of directors, and even the CEO don't think much of it either. The squeaky wheel gets the oil. The new livery could go away. Later, Doug
The broken record society are all over the joint ! One of these days someone, just someone will start an AA thread on here that stays on it's original topic...
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Keep in mind a good percentage of these planes aren't made of metal anymore. Can't have a bare metal plane that's made of composite parts.
The 787 is the only plane that has extensive use of CF.
AA claims that it was another reason to change up the scheme. The A300 was originally painted grey because of it's use of composites but later was stripped to a bare metal finish. AA should do the same thing with their 787. IMO they should just have unique scheme just for that airplane, and leave the rest of the fleet un-broken.
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Skymarks and Herpa have announced new AA releases. I think Skymarks 1/200 for August and Herpa 1/500 for October. Both for the B777-300ER. GJ hasn't announced yet but I'll bet it will be June or July.
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The broken record society are all over the joint ! One of these days someone, just someone will start an AA thread on here that stays on it's original topic...
Threads should stay on topic and you're absolutely correct, so back to the issue, why on earth did S7 ever paint their Tu-154s and 737s green with green and red lettering is totally beyond me.
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Apologies Big Al and QFA. You see, I did catch a little buzz this afternoon, but was thinking about who might be making new AA schemes and how I must pre-order these must-haves....and blame AK for going off topic first!
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Apologies Big Al and QFA. You see, I did catch a little buzz this afternoon, but was thinking about who might be making new AA schemes and how I must pre-order these must-haves....and blame AK for going off topic first!
I'd like to know as well, I'd love a new scheme 777W, I for one think it looks excellent. There look I stayed on topic !
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With the bare polished metal and the new composite materials being used now controversy aside, my main issue and reason to whine is the way they parted from the legacy from the AA group. They could still have their planes painted silver like Northwest did with their fleet. I think the whole controversy boils down to two single items: The horrendous tail job (my 6 yr. old could have come up with a better design for that tail) and the iconic & proud eagle being diminished to what looks like a lame seagull at it's best. Would have loved to see the double AA and eagle logo HUGE on those tails. Keeping in touch with the AA legacy. Now THAT would have been a real delight to see in airports all over the world. Stand tall, stand proud. Maybe the new management will re-consider and stop this "rubbish-madness"
With the bare polished metal and the new composite materials being used now controversy aside, my main issue and reason to whine is the way they parted from the legacy from the AA group. They could still have their planes painted silver like Northwest did with their fleet. I think the whole controversy boils down to two single items: The horrendous tail job (my 6 yr. old could have come up with a better design for that tail) and the iconic & proud eagle being diminished to what looks like a lame seagull at it's best. Would have loved to see the double AA and eagle logo HUGE on those tails. Keeping in touch with the AA legacy. Now THAT would have been a real delight to see in airports all over the world. Stand tall, stand proud. Maybe the new management will re-consider and stop this "rubbish-madness"
And to reiterate my point for those who don't get it yet, is that there were several (now merged) threads on here to discuss the new livery where a good dose of whining and winging were aired. And fair enough, everyone's entitled to their say....
But then later there was also a thread for people who liked the new livery to discuss and post pictures of the various types as they got re-painted. What happened next...? The whiners p*ssed all over it with their negative comments and pessimism already posted on the previous threads..
Then what happened ? Someone recently started a thread asking to keep tabs on the fleet being repainted and draw up an updateable list as aircraft rolled out in the new livery. What happened next...? The whiners p*ssed all over it with their negative comments and pessimism already posted on the previous threads.
Then what happened ? We get this thread, asking if there will be any 1:400 scale models in the new AA livery and when ? What happened next... ? The whiners p*ssed all over it with their negative comments and pessimism already posted on the previous threads.
Am I getting repetitive and annoying yet ?
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Well, that is the way we feel about that this side of the pond matey. And sit tight, cause you will be getting crap load upon crap load about this same subject no matter what... just sayin'
Big Al, have to say you did the same exact thing that you detest.....written off topic, hijacked a post, and whining - highlighted in red.....This post is about who may be the next manufacturer of an American Airlines airplane in the new scheme. So lets get back on topic and just ignore the stuff that isn't providing the info you clicked for.... Have a good one!
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Last edited by B2707300SST; 05-14-2013 at 12:03 PM.
"Here we go again... WHIIIIIIIINE !!!" Yeah, whine we do, but what might that indicate? If the majority of DA.C doesn't like it (and I think that's a fair statement), then neither does the flying public, nor probably many AA employees. There has been some indication that some of the board of directors, and even the CEO don't think much of it either. The squeaky wheel gets the oil. The new livery could go away. Later, Doug
I think the majority of the flying public could give a rats *** about the livery of the airplane they are flying on. I would think they care about safety, price and comfort.
Big Al, have to say you did the same exact thing that you detest.....written off topic, hijacked a post, and whining - highlighted in red.....This post is about who may be the next manufacturer of an American Airlines airplane in the new scheme. So lets get back on topic and just ignore the stuff that isn't providing the info you clicked for.... Have a good one!
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Thanks for missing my point Herb, I do however appeciate the good wishes...
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I think the majority of the flying public could give a rats *** about the livery of the airplane they are flying on. I would think they care about safety, price and comfort.
Correct, but us model enthusiasts are a difficult to please breed...
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I haven't heard of any specific mfg who will be making the first Greyhound/Gradient Overload scheme yet. Historically it debuted on the trip7er, so will snap that one up when someone releases a nice one. GJ already released the, now fantasy, classic metal airplane, so could be they'll strike again while the iron's in the fire. Second would be the 762. Love to fly on them and they don't look half bad in the new colors.
Concorde...hmmmm. As much as like fantasy's, the new scheme isn't on my radar to invest a whole lot of $ in.
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And to reiterate my point for those who don't get it yet, is that there were several (now merged) threads on here to discuss the new livery where a good dose of whining and winging were aired. And fair enough, everyone's entitled to their say....
But then later there was also a thread for people who liked the new livery to discuss and post pictures of the various types as they got re-painted. What happened next...? The whiners p*ssed all over it with their negative comments and pessimism already posted on the previous threads..
Then what happened ? Someone recently started a thread asking to keep tabs on the fleet being repainted and draw up an updateable list as aircraft rolled out in the new livery. What happened next...? The whiners p*ssed all over it with their negative comments and pessimism already posted on the previous threads.
Then what happened ? We get this thread, asking if there will be any 1:400 scale models in the new AA livery and when ? What happened next... ? The whiners p*ssed all over it with their negative comments and pessimism already posted on the previous threads.
Am I getting repetitive and annoying yet ?
I don't come out here much be because of this issue, so I agree with everything you have said. Couldn't have said it better or clearer
On topic, probably will see a 777 from GJ first.
Last edited by DeltaFanDC-9; 05-16-2013 at 10:18 PM.
Skymarks will be releasing a 1/200 B-777-300ER in the new livery in August and Herpa will be releasing the same but 1/500 in October. Based on the fact that AA unveiled their new livery in mid-February, GJ SHOULD have a 1/400 by June or July.
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Wandering off topic again... Gemini Jets 'Fantasy Scheme' 777-300ER, along with a second recent addition. What might and should have been. I won't be purchasing any 1/400 diecasts in the new livery, so I don't care who produces them or how good they are. Whine, whine, whine. Doug
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Wasn't the 738 the first one actually painted, they posed it in front of the 777 which was still in it's base coat of 'gradient grey'...?
Hi Al,
You're correct , the 737 leaked out first... let me clarify. I was speaking of the trip7 and it's inaugural service as a new type and the central focus for the unveiling of American's new corporate identity.
I will buy a 777-300er in the new colors just as a historical piece. The GJ 773er release in the old colors is a mould just waiting for the new scheme. Since they have the license to produce AA corporate, I wouldn't doubt them releasing one soon.
Best,
Herb
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You're correct , the 737 leaked out first... let me clarify. I was speaking of the trip7 and it's inaugural service as a new type and the central focus for the unveiling of American's new corporate identity.
I will buy a 777-300er in the new colors just as a historical piece. The GJ 773er release in the old colors is a mould just waiting for the new scheme. Since they have the license to produce AA corporate, I wouldn't doubt them releasing one soon.
Best,
Herb
I see your point, and yes I'd take a 1:400 77W in the new livery too. Even it does become a short lived livery...
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Gentlemen, For what it's worth, the Boeing Co. delivered two (2) new 737-823's to AA in the current livery this week. Love it or leave it. The 'new' paint scheme is here to stay. Get over it already, life is full of change. I'm sure there were plenty of folks that just hated the 'new' red, white and blue cheatline that replaced the iconic 'lightening bolt' in the sixties.
I was able to do a walk-around of one during the delivery preflight and she's gorgeous. I personally can't wait to add this livery to both of my 1:400 or 1:200 AA collections!!!! Hopefully Phx or GJ's will release one soon! Please excuse me while I go get my flame suit on now........
Gentlemen, For what it's worth, the Boeing Co. delivered two (2) new 737-823's to AA in the current livery this week. Love it or leave it. The 'new' paint scheme is here to stay. Get over it already, life is full of change. I'm sure there were plenty of folks that just hated the 'new' red, white and blue cheatline that replaced the iconic 'lightening bolt' in the sixties.
I was able to do a walk-around of one during the delivery preflight and she's gorgeous. I personally can't wait to add this livery to both of my 1:400 or 1:200 AA collections!!!! Hopefully Phx or GJ's will release one soon! Please excuse me while I go get my flame suit on now........
Would you mind sharing the tail numbers if you have them? I have been trying to keep a running list for both knowing the progress as well as for spotters.
And you bring up a common theme, it seems many dislike the livery until they see it in real life, and then they are amazed. Life is about change, and American can't make the world happy.
Thanks,
DeltaFanDC-9
Unfortunately though, the MD-80 T-tail configuration doesn't really lend itself well to the new scheme, IMHO. Would AA actually spend the $$$ to refurbish the interior/exterior of birds that are most likely being decommissioned w/ new 738's coming online everyday to replace the tired, fuel thirsty Mad Dogs?
Unfortunately though, the MD-80 T-tail configuration doesn't really lend itself well to the new scheme, IMHO. Would AA actually spend the $$$ to refurbish the interior/exterior of birds that are most likely being decommissioned w/ new 738's coming online everyday to replace the tired, fuel thirsty Mad Dogs?
I recently flew aboard a couple of AA MD-82's. I had a chance to speak at length with the FA in our cabin. She spoke of how much she liked the "ol MD80 and how much she'll miss them when the are replaced with 737's next year. IMO it seems doubtful, AA will paint them in the new scheme...which for me, is a blessing and the best way the MD82 can go out of service...ON TOP in gleaming bare metal, blue/white/red/stripes, and a scissor eagle.
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I recently flew aboard a couple of AA MD-82's. I had a chance to speak at length with the FA in our cabin. She spoke of how much she liked the "ol MD80 and how much she'll miss them when the are replaced with 737's next year. IMO it seems doubtful, AA will paint them in the new scheme...which for me, is a blessing and the best way the MD82 can go out of service...ON TOP in gleaming bare metal, blue/white/red/stripes, and a scissor eagle.
I spoke directly with an FA. The post at A.net quotes they heard from a source that heard from a source leaves me to wonder if my source heard from a source. Only dollars and cents, and time will determine if the dogs will have new collars.
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There were thoughts posted here and there. AA is such a hot button topic, it's tough to not talk about them....but it was mentioned that GJ already released an AA 773...so the lijyhoof is high.....but in a nutshell, no news yet as to who and when.
I hope we see one real soon. GJ's 1:200 777-323ER would be prefered! If they make it a 1:400 release, it couldn't do it justice. I can't wait, then maybe all the haters will see how beautiful she really is. This release may take some time though, esp if AA isn't releasing any product licensing just yet on the new corporate brand.
B2707300SST........"but it was mentioned that GJ already released an AA 773".
GJ mentioned on Facebook that "the most requested diecast ever is in the works" so perhaps that is where the rumor started. So far the only ones that have announced any AAs are Herpa B777-300 1/500 for October 2103 and SkyMarks B777-300 1/200 for August 2013.
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, the 737 leaked out first... let me clarify. I was speaking of the trip7 and it's inaugural service as a new type and the central focus for the unveiling of American's new corporate identity. 
. So possibly a release for next month...might be my first new model in a long time.
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