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Old 02-29-2012, 08:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Well since no one else bothers to posts this stuff....

ACBAW0312 Aeroclassics British Airways BAC-111 G-BBME
ACCAF0312 Aeroclassics RCAF CL-4 Northstar 15715
ACCAF0312A Aeroclassics RCAF Rescue CL-4 Northstar 15707
ACDLH0312 Aeroclassics Lufthansa A330-200 D-AIME
ACDLH0312A Aeroclassics Lufthansa A330-300 D-AIKL
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ACDLH0312C Aeroclassics Lufthansa A340-300 D-AIFC
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are the LH ones so-called 'secret releases'? I avoid those, but a couple of these do fit in my criteria. grr.
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Wow, the Lufthansa A340 and A330 will fit perfectly in the YYZ collection!
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Wow! Lufthansa A343!
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are the LH ones so-called 'secret releases'? I avoid those, but a couple of these do fit in my criteria. grr.
Nothing secret about them; they're listed everywhere
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Any more besides these listed models? The list seems so short.
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I'll get the LH340 for my CLK airport.
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LH343 doesn't fly to HKIA.
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Are these really Aero-"Classics". I would much rather see them focus on planes that people with classic airports could actually use. Leave this junk to GJ, PX or DW in my opinion.
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Aerohansas?

More than half are LH aircrafts.None for me.
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No more classics fleets by aeroclassics. I really hope later they will focus more on classics fleets.
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Great line up !!
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Are these really Aero-"Classics". I would much rather see them focus on planes that people with classic airports could actually use. Leave this junk to GJ, PX or DW in my opinion.
This is called 'competition' - make a better model than your competitors and you gain respect and sales! Also don't forget that these will probably sell better than the lesser-known props and classic jets that us discerning historical collectors want, so if sales of these models provide funds for later classics, then let them be. If only 'classics' were made, the company could bankrupt itself. Swings and roundabouts my friend. Be patient....I have been waiting years for BEA,Air France, Aer Lingus and KLM Viscounts, but am sure they will all come!
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What an expensive month this is going to be. All 4 LH's for me. Thank you AK
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Cool that Aeroclassics did them ! The long waited LH 340s !...I cannot be more careless if the manufacturer's name is consistent or not with the production line as far as the outcome is a good product !...and in this case, it is !
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Curious about the BA Bac1-11 is it 'British' or 'British Airways' ? I already have G-BBME as the British example.
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Just got back from LHR via Hillingdon and all 4 ordered at ARD. Can't wait.
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Curious about the BA Bac1-11 is it 'British' or 'British Airways' ? I already have G-BBME as the British example.
Aha... I see it's British Airways, might be up for one then, although a hitherto unreleased reg would have been better.
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getting the 4 LH models
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Did GJ and AC switch sides this month? =D
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With today's long downturn in the economy, AC has lost its stature and now exists in name only under the umbrella of different brands.
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With today's long downturn in the economy, AC has lost its stature and now exists in name only under the umbrella of different brands.
Excuse my ignorance, but that is supposed to mean what??
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Excuse my ignorance, but that is supposed to mean what??
In other words...it sounds like he is saying Aeroclassics no longer has its mystic appeal as it did the last decade...it is just one of the many brands out there to choose from...although I don't think it is related to anything with the economy, rather it is more related to the wide variety of models and manufacturers out there.
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A "slow month" does not really change much to Aeroclassics' stature. Adding more recent aircraft types to the range neither.

Different collectors join the hobby with different expectations and interests. But my collection would be less than 25% of its actual size without AC. I guess even a longer economic downturn does not wipe this out so quickly. So let us not jump to hasty conclusions...

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Where's the Cathay A330?
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Excuse my ignorance, but that is supposed to mean what??
I'm sorry for the post I made. And not to worry, I don't drink alcohol or the blood of snakes so it wasn't a rant while under the influence.

My choice of the term "lost its stature" may have been a bit strong, but in a sense, AC's current volume and balance controls seem to indicate that the company is peaking in that direction. Whether you like it or not, your loose and ignorant comments about the Convair 580's potential (Gemini thread) helps confirm that AC has lost its direction in the most basic sense of the term, "Aeroclassics."

And given the fact that AC is producing models like the A340 (not that there's anything wrong with it) because of positive cash flow further dilutes Aeroclassic's stature as a classic producer that many of us had once known. Further comments by members in the Gemini thread indicate that AC & GJ are swapping moulds just to keep the appearance of a monthly release flow.
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I'm sorry for the post I made. And not to worry, I don't drink alcohol or the blood of snakes so it wasn't a rant while under the influence.

My choice of the term "lost its stature" may have been a bit strong, but in a sense, AC's current volume and balance controls seem to indicate that the company is peaking in that direction. Whether you like it or not, your loose and ignorant comments about the Convair 580's potential (Gemini thread) helps confirm that AC has lost its direction in the most basic sense of the term, "Aeroclassics."

And given the fact that AC is producing models like the A340 (not that there's anything wrong with it) because of positive cash flow further dilutes Aeroclassic's stature as a classic producer that many of us had once known. Further comments by members in the Gemini thread indicate that AC & GJ are swapping moulds just to keep the appearance of a monthly release flow.
Fair enough Steve!
Please understand though, that my "loose and ignorant comments about the CV-580 potential" is based on the first hand knowledge, that the twin Convairliners done in past by AC, didn't sell worth a hill of beans. All of the best airlines were done, nothing obscure except perhaps Mackey Int'l, but yet they all still remain very very available, in spite of the limited numbers produced. In my books, that's failure of the aircraft type!
If AC failed, in selling a quality product, what makes me think that JC/GJ would succeed selling an inferior product; hence my comments, which I still stand by.
Sure there are lots of interesting subjects to do with a 580, but if you can't sell 100 pcs, what's the use!
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All of the best airlines were done, nothing obscure except perhaps Mackey Int'l...
Very true, but IMHO maybe "the best" liveries were not chosen amongst those available. To make it clearer, I passed both Iberia and SAS 440s made in their delivery and/or early 1960s liveries. Conversely, I would have considered them in their final schemes used until the early '70s.

As a personal perspective, CV-580s might have a better acceptance in the market because as an example they served in more recent times - i.e. when more and more people were visiting airports both for travel and leisure -, sometimes soldiering on well into the 1980s and beyond. I was surprised to see with my very eyes a 580 in TWE colors at ORF in the spring of 1992!

I have not mentioned quality issues, but responders to a recent poll on this forum seem to care more about livery. Unless, of course, a model looks bad or imprecisions are really gross.
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Fair enough Steve!
Please understand though, that my "loose and ignorant comments about the CV-580 potential" is based on the first hand knowledge, that the twin Convairliners done in past by AC, didn't sell worth a hill of beans. All of the best airlines were done, nothing obscure except perhaps Mackey Int'l, but yet they all still remain very very available, in spite of the limited numbers produced. In my books, that's failure of the aircraft type!
If AC failed, in selling a quality product, what makes me think that JC/GJ would succeed selling an inferior product; hence my comments, which I still stand by.
Sure there are lots of interesting subjects to do with a 580, but if you can't sell 100 pcs, what's the use!
Excuse the pun Andrew, but while you were building limited production postwar CV-340 & 440 models for trunk carriers, small airlines were upgrading theirs to the CV-580. Conversions between 1960 & 1969 would ensure the 580's success in occupying the minds of passengers and enthusiasts well beyond deregulation. Color schemes changed at least twice with some airlines. Shame on you for ignoring this iconic prop-jet turbo-liner and the fact that it would have SOLD OUT.
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are the LH ones so-called 'secret releases'? I avoid those, but a couple of these do fit in my criteria. grr.

Pardon my lack of knowledge, any reason why you avoid the secret ones
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Fair enough Steve!
Please understand though, that my "loose and ignorant comments about the CV-580 potential" is based on the first hand knowledge, that the twin Convairliners done in past by AC, didn't sell worth a hill of beans. All of the best airlines were done, nothing obscure except perhaps Mackey Int'l, but yet they all still remain very very available, in spite of the limited numbers produced. In my books, that's failure of the aircraft type!
If AC failed, in selling a quality product, what makes me think that JC/GJ would succeed selling an inferior product; hence my comments, which I still stand by.
Sure there are lots of interesting subjects to do with a 580, but if you can't sell 100 pcs, what's the use!
That's fair, although I disagree with your assessment as all 4 of the Aspen liveries with the Frontier and their variants could be manufactured as once with the unsold inventory being redone with changed registration numbers like you have done in the past to satisfy fleet builders. I think 250 units for regular liveries with about 75 units for the variants would be about right on a Superior mould compared to GJ. I hope that the market changes for you to change your mind. Just a thought here. On a unrelated note, any consideration for any KC-135 military releases Andrew?
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