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Old 02-20-2012, 01:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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FlyteLine Models has closed contract for China Airlines and making their Boeing 747-400 Skyteam Logo 1/400 scale.

Pre-order available at Aviation Hobby Centers USA and a few other locations.
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photo? reg? information? who is Flyteline? who is the actual manufacturer?
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photo? reg? information? who is Flyteline? who is the actual manufacturer?
another brand name for jc wings i believe! unless its spelt flightline!
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FlyteLine Models is the Manufacture. FlyteLine is mainly a B2B company around for many years. They don't make models for collectors like Gemini or Herpa and so on. They only produce models for the aviation industry. They do on occasion now, will release limited models to the public.

Visit http://flytelinemodels.com to know who they are. Also note FlyteLine Models is not associated with JC Wings in any way. Also FlyteLine has been around much longer.

This model is being produced for China Airlines as client and after pre-orders this model will no longer be available to the public. This is a licensed Boeing model and Boeing approved moulds.

Reg. number is B-18206

Final pictures has not been released as to adjustments.
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The model looks like the DW mould, on the website the snap-fit range looks like the Risesoon/Skymarks mould
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Old 02-20-2012, 04:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Not DW mould unless DW is made by FlyteLine? Skymarks is a brand name and NOT their models. Looks similar but not same.
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Not DW mould unless DW is made by FlyteLine? Skymarks is a brand name and NOT their models. Looks similar but not same.
So instead of being difficult and acting like a 5 year old, if people are asking to know which factory you are using, just answer the darn question.
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Old 02-20-2012, 04:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
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They are made by FlyteLine in FlyteLines own factory. That is the point. FlyteLine has OEM models for others before. They are B2B and only started in last year or so to offer to the public.
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I thought that Airshop in Taiwan said that Hogan will be the one that's making the official 1:400 CAL Skyteam model.... Anyone heard that before? Cause that's the response I got from the clerks in Airshop Taiwan.
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I have not heard that but China Airlines usually uses Dragon. However back in Dec. FlyteLine was approached to make these models and production phase is already starting. On the box it will say Officially Produced for China Airlines. They are the customer. Hogan may be making models that will be available to the public for retail. I do not know about that.
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I think the starting price is rather steep compared to the other 1:400 brands. It certainly is good seeing another manufacturer do the Boeing 744 since the phoenix mould is disappointing. Did flyteline do OEM for aeroclassics?
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I think the starting price is rather steep compared to the other 1:400 brands. It certainly is good seeing another manufacturer do the Boeing 744 since the phoenix mould is disappointing. Did flyteline do OEM for aeroclassics?

Not able to mention who models have been OEM to before as doing OEM you are doing their Branding. However, no we have not done any for Aeroclassics. Price is compared to most on market and those who have ordered will see quality is better then most. There should be one going to the person who does the reviews of a model, moulds and detail. This would be good so collectors will know it is a good model.
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When will the preorder be ended? BTW, if Flyteline is really the official licensed manufacturer to make these B-18206 China Airlines Skyteam models, how would flyteline use the wrong logo from China Airlines? I can clearly see that the logo is not correct...
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Old 02-21-2012, 01:36 AM   #14 (permalink)
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When will the preorder be ended? BTW, if Flyteline is really the official licensed manufacturer to make these B-18206 China Airlines Skyteam models, how would flyteline use the wrong logo from China Airlines? I can clearly see that the logo is not correct...
What logo are you refering to??? The logo we have is the official logo told to use by CAL. Not sure what you are looking at?

Pre-orders will end at the end of week.
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Obviously someone is trying to be haughty. Let's all boycott flute line models.
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Old 02-21-2012, 02:28 AM   #16 (permalink)
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This is the logo that is used. I really am not sure what you are talking about?

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FlyteLine Models is the Manufacture. FlyteLine is mainly a B2B company around for many years. They don't make models for collectors like Gemini or Herpa and so on. They only produce models for the aviation industry. They do on occasion now, will release limited models to the public.

Visit http://flytelinemodels.com to know who they are. Also note FlyteLine Models is not associated with JC Wings in any way. Also FlyteLine has been around much longer.

This model is being produced for China Airlines as client and after pre-orders this model will no longer be available to the public. This is a licensed Boeing model and Boeing approved moulds.

Reg. number is B-18206

Final pictures has not been released as to adjustments.
why does the web site show AeroClassics, Gemini Jets and Aviation400 models?
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Old 02-21-2012, 02:45 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I just came from the Flyteline corporate site. Seems they manufacture directly for airlines and the aviation industry OEM. They have some pretty nice stuff and noticed they produced models for Airliners.net also. Where can I pre-order the CAL 747? The corporate site only links me to their wholesale division for retailers..
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....why does the web site show AeroClassics, Gemini Jets and Aviation400 models?

Those are all brand names and not manufacturers. From what I saw on their site, if Gemini Jets, AeroClassics, or anyone else wanted them to produce models and put their brands on the box, Flyteline would manufacture them that way.

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This is the logo that is used. I really am not sure what you are talking about?

It's obviously that the flower is not correct.
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Thanks Jerry
Yes! The Plum blossom is totally wrong... I'm not trying to be mean or something... I just want to be as careful as I can before any purchase.
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flyteline seems too fishy, TechOne is obviously an alias >_>. Btw the quality in the other models (other than the risesoon/aeroclassic/DW look alikes) looks really odd
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Hello Flyteline,
I am just wondering if there are more photos for this CAL skyteam model. I am more concerning on the engines. I would like to know if they are the PW engines instead of the GEs that PHX and JC are using (which are not correct).
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Plus suddenly the preorder picture has changed to a top view, thereby making the presumably 'wrong' flower becoming not visible
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Yes! The Plum blossom is totally wrong... I'm not trying to be mean or something... I just want to be as careful as I can before any purchase.
I just looked at the China Air website and the logo looks exactly like what they have there... cept maybe the color is a bit light, but that could be an image thing maybe....??
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I just looked at the China Air website and the logo looks exactly like what they have there... cept maybe the color is a bit light, but that could be an image thing maybe....??
It is a very notable difference... and was even announced by China Airlines official when they joined Skyteam...
You can check on Skyteam's website~ They got a bigger picture...
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I just looked at the China Air website and the logo looks exactly like what they have there... cept maybe the color is a bit light, but that could be an image thing maybe....??
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flyteline seems too fishy, TechOne is obviously an alias >_>. Btw the quality in the other models (other than the risesoon/aeroclassic/DW look alikes) looks really odd
No I am not an alias, I'm a collector who started years ago with Schabak. I don't have any diecast models from Flyteline yet, but I did get hold of one of their snap-fit models of an Island Air Dash 8. I missed the first version but got the next one they put out before I missed it too. I can't complain, its a nice model and I would say very similar to Skymarks or Hogan. I think the only place you can get them now is from the website of the airline itself so in my personal experience, I haven't seen anything fishy - I mean, they either got a product or they don't. Pretty simple.
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No I am not an alias, I'm a collector who started years ago with Schabak. I don't have any diecast models from Flyteline yet, but I did get hold of one of their snap-fit models of an Island Air Dash 8. I missed the first version but got the next one they put out before I missed it too. I can't complain, its a nice model and I would say very similar to Skymarks or Hogan. I think the only place you can get them now is from the website of the airline itself so in my personal experience, I haven't seen anything fishy - I mean, they either got a product or they don't. Pretty simple.
Yep totally not an alias, may i request photos of your schabak models? thanks!
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Yes! The Plum blossom is totally wrong... I'm not trying to be mean or something... I just want to be as careful as I can before any purchase.
Yep... now I see what you mean, thanks!
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Yep totally not an alias, may i request photos of your schabak models? thanks!
Sure. Can't do all that tonight though. They were kinda neat at the time but the 1/600 was just too small and the decals were crappy. Thats when I changed to Herpa in 1/500 and eventually all these other guys (mostly Gemini) in 1/400, which seems to really be the best scale since I have trouble with my eyes.
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It is a very notable difference... and was even announced by China Airlines official when they joined Skyteam...
You can check on Skyteam's website~ They got a bigger picture...
I will take a look at that. All art work used is what was sent and told to use and was appoved so I will look and question on that.
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Quite nice models. And I can appreciate the speed and clarity of your communication here on this forum. Thanks for that.

I am not qualified to judge the discussion about the China Airlines logo. But from what I can see on yr website under the section "Diecast Metal Airplane Models", that British Airways B747 World Tail is a Classic -100/-200 type [and not a -400, judging by the wing tips]. Sorry fot that, but in our 1/400 hobby, it is all about detail!

Good luck with the China Airlines release.

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Quite nice models. And I can appreciate the speed and clarity of your communication here on this forum. Thanks for that.

I am not qualified to judge the discussion about the China Airlines logo. But from what I can see on yr website under the section "Diecast Metal Airplane Models", that British Airways B747 World Tail is a Classic -100/-200 type [and not a -400, judging by the wing tips]. Sorry fot that, but in our 1/400 hobby, it is all about detail!

Good luck with the China Airlines release.

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Yes,thanks for noticing that. It is a 200 series not 400.
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I will take a look at that. All art work used is what was sent and told to use and was appoved so I will look and question on that.


Any idea why that image was changed ? can you get the original image back rather than a top view
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Any idea why that image was changed ? can you get the original image back rather than a top view
The livery was changed when they actually painted the aircraft. The sample was made from their files. When aircraft was painted the Skyteam was moved over slightly. Thus new files where made for the model. However they did not need an updated sample as screens are correct and just went into production. It was only sample photo available so people could see quality but it has created problems. An actual photo will not be available until the first production models is finished but would be to late for anyone who wanted one.
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The livery was changed when they actually painted the aircraft. The sample was made from their files. When aircraft was painted the Skyteam was moved over slightly. Thus new files where made for the model. However they did not need an updated sample as screens are correct and just went into production. It was only sample photo available so people could see quality but it has created problems. An actual photo will not be available until the first production models is finished but would be to late for anyone who wanted one.

How about sharing some pictures of the final model. You do say that "new files were made". would be nice if you can share some pictures for all of us model lovers to see. One or two closeups would be really nice.
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I really hope that you can post up more photos for that model. Even just the sample model is fine too. You do understand that people do wish to see pics of what they are going to purchase right?
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I really hope that you can post up more photos for that model. Even just the sample model is fine too. You do understand that people do wish to see pics of what they are going to purchase right?
Yes but Gemini only post pictures of their pre-production sample models as changes and corrections are made prior to final production. Looks like the same here.
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Yes but Gemini only post pictures of their pre-production sample models as changes and corrections are made prior to final production. Looks like the same here.
I understand that Adrian~ But I dont think that GJ would post "Top-view" Picture only...
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I got this off their website before they changed it
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Looks ok though I am hoping Number 4 engine does not separate anytime soon.
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looks like the engines are GE's instead of PW's which the real aircraft is using~ But overall looks better than PHX as PHX's 747 has a really weir nose...
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Those photos appear to confirm the rumor that it's the Aviation400 mould or one of it's half dozen copies.
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looks like the engines are GE's instead of PW's which the real aircraft is using~ But overall looks better than PHX as PHX's 747 has a really weir nose...
This is why we did not post a photo here. As I stated the sample has changes CAL went with but they did not want another sample just went into production. So this photo is inaccurate. The engines in this photo are not the one's that will be on model. I do not know if it is the engines you are looking for but there was a engine change
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I personally think that it looks much better than the Phoenix one (in terms of color, accuracy..etc) I'm just more worrying about the engines. Seems like they are assembled like how Phoenix and JC are doing (Attach them one by one, which can always lead to engines pointing in all directions).

I'm just wondering if anyone on this site really preordered one ?
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Normally, I'm not into the Skyteam livery (I feel that the Skyteam livery takes away the CI beautiful identity), but this FlyeLine Vs Hogan debate makes me to get one??

We now need to see the Hogan one. But will it too late for the pre-order? Any our friends from Taiwan know what should we do?


From what i gather is that (Hogan & FlyteLine) are much better than JC and PH. There is also a rumor that engines on Hogan may also be wrong (I'm still a beginner when taking engines and aerospace engineering. I'm a scientist, not engineer .)

The Blossom is important but may be less significant in this case since it has greatly reduced to a "tinny" size on the fuselage. Remember the whole of the livery focus on Skyteam and less China Airlines.

But again, I can't be too judgmental because i admit i have few PH 747s in my collection.
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Old 02-23-2012, 08:35 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Normally, I'm not into the Skyteam livery (I feel that the Skyteam livery takes away the CI beautiful identity), but this FlyeLine Vs Hogan debate makes me to get one??

We now need to see the Hogan one. But will it too late for the pre-order? Any our friends from Taiwan know what should we do?


From what i gather is that (Hogan & FlyteLine) are much better than JC and PH. There is also a rumor that engines on Hogan may also be wrong (I'm still a beginner when taking engines and aerospace engineering. I'm a scientist, not engineer .)

The Blossom is important but may be less significant in this case since it has greatly reduced to a "tinny" size on the fuselage. Remember the whole of the livery focus on Skyteam and less China Airlines.

But again, I can't be too judgmental because i admit i have few PH 747s in my collection.
I'm not worried about the blossom. On the sample model kindly posted here, it appears to be the correct color. I just think it was the logo on the box, or sample picture, that was off. I did ask about the pre-order before I got one, and was told that a pre-order would guarantee that I get one. Since these are for the airline itself, there may be a limited number available afterwards, but it would be first come first serve. I collect snap fit as well and missed out once with Flytleine because of that. I did pre-order my second snap fit from them which was awesome. So that is really the reason I went ahead with a pre-order of the CI die cast model. I don't have any 1:400 from Flyteline so I can't compare them to anyone, and I haven't seen the Hogan yet either. But when I get mine I'll post photos of it.
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....why does the web site show AeroClassics, Gemini Jets and Aviation400 models?

Those are all brand names and not manufacturers. From what I saw on their site, if Gemini Jets, AeroClassics, or anyone else wanted them to produce models and put their brands on the box, Flyteline would manufacture them that way.
Aeroclassics make their own models in their own factory for sure!

And defenetly Flyteline does not!

The picture posted is the AV400 / Inflight 400 / Flyteline 400 mould is with the same upper deck error!

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Old 02-24-2012, 02:12 AM   #50 (permalink)
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Here comes rebranded of IF400 just after 2 releases!
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