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Old 12-19-2011, 03:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi Guys,i need all your opinion on this JA8964 ANA big shooter.
i received this in a state of paint cracks over the "blue zone area" of this model.there is another paintcrack issues at the bely of the model,it over at the main gears area.i have checked with 1 of the highly regard collector here and was told this model have this "paint crack issues" on it. i have since contact the ebay seller regarding this issues but was told that it was due to the temperature issues during the shipping.he mention it was totally in a perfect condition when he ships out and there isnt any cracks at all.

all owner of this model, i need your assistance to check whether is this a manufacturer paintwork issues or just temperature changes during shipping that lead to the paintcracks.

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Old 12-19-2011, 05:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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A bit of both things, I think.
I used to have this model too but mine also had cracked paints all over. Love the paint scheme though, hence, I went on to source the HG version.

Not sure if bad metals (zinc rot) are also involved in this instance, because if I recall, the wings, stabilisers etc are all in-tact. Just the paint problem really.
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Old 12-19-2011, 06:09 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi,

I also have this model which was purchased new about 8 or 9 years ago.
As far as I recall, the model was perfect when it was received (cracks may have been present but I didn`t notice them at that time) but never displayed then after about a year I noticed cracks in the paintwork all over the fuselage as you described. It aslo appears that both the metal and plastic parts of the model are affected leading to the conclusion that it was a problem with the paint application process and perhaps a change in temperature during painting and drying.
I find it hard to believe that the model that you have purchased did not suffer from the cracking issue for 8 or 9 years since it was produced but had suddenly developed this issue from the time that the ebay seller sent it until it arrived with you. I suspect therefore that the seller had known about this issue and had not declared it in his description of the product.
Hope this helps.

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Old 12-19-2011, 06:24 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I do not have this model myself, but as a Big Shooter it should have plastic wings. I find it hard to believe that heat exposure would have such to crack the paint without causing at least deformation of the plastic parts. Let alone the model cradle itself...

Do not think it is metal fatigue either. The shape of the model seems OK and not suffering from deformation, bending or deep creasing like I have seen in other pictures - and sadly in some of my models too!
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Old 12-19-2011, 06:28 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Hi all,

based on the info I have gathered from another collector.
This paintcracks issue applied to the Big shooter B767.
All the paintcracks is just around the "blue zone area"
only. My conclusion is that there is some bad mixture of the paints that resulted
only the blue zone have paintcracks.

The seller is offering me a partial refund of the Model.
His claims still remains as it was shipped out
in a perfect fine condition. The paintcracks occurs during the journey.
My question is does paintcracks occurs in a two weeks shipping timeframe?
If it is a temperature change issues, I would say it would have paintcracks
all over the model.

Hoped to have a show of hands how many ANA big shooter having this manufacturer issues.

Just seeking you guys opinion. Will you all just accept the partial refund and move on or will file a eBay dispute? my thoughts are as this model doesn't come cheap, it is now deem as worthless as it a model with paintcracks.
I'm unable to predict if 1 years down the road, will the model Paintwork worsten and be turns into powder form.
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Old 12-19-2011, 06:49 AM   #6 (permalink)
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By reading your last post I may offer a closer guess to reality:
  • If this problem is affecting only blue paint overpainting other colors, different solvent-based paints might have been used at the time of manufacturing;
  • If two paints dissolved in different solvents are applied on top of the other, they will behave differently once the paint has dried and the solvent has evaporated. The cracking occurs because one of the layers "shrinks" more than the other upon drying;
  • I learned this lesson when the very same thing happened to me while painting a kit several years ago: after some time all the paint flaked out in scales from it, much to my surprise and horror. This however happened very quickly - within months, and not after several years.
If that is the case, I think that all similar models may be affected by the same problem, and that the situation will not worsen much more than this considering the "age" of the model. You see whether you wish to keep the model and have a bitter taste in your mouth when you look at it because you felt cheated or, conversely, the plaesure of having it anyway in your possession overcomes this feeling.
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Old 12-19-2011, 06:52 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Go with the dispute and get a full refund. This model is widely known to have a paint defect. No chance did this happen in transit between him shipping it to your receipt. Parcels are not exposed to such extreme temperatures. This model left his home that way. I had one with the same problem...I gave it to my son to play with.
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Old 12-19-2011, 06:59 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I would return the model, because it would always bother me! You also mentioned paying much for it, so someone tried to sell you a broken model!! I owned the DW version of this model too and gave it away for free because of this paint crack issue and bought the TucanoLine version instead. Sounds like someone needed to make some quick money, which is not very funny to me, not at all!! Return it and try to get one of the three other versions of this lovely B744D!

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I wouldn't want him to get my money for betraying me and having a model that's obviously not worth a penny..
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Old 12-19-2011, 08:14 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Go with the dispute and get a full refund. This model is widely known to have a paint defect. No chance did this happen in transit between him shipping it to your receipt. Parcels are not exposed to such extreme temperatures. This model left his home that way. I had one with the same problem...I gave it to my son to play with.

Totally agree with your statement. Go with the dispute and get a full refund. One of my friend told me that he might know the seller. At the time he also didn't mentioned the crack...but my friend e-mail him and make sure that he checked. Finally the seller said that it was crack all over, that's why my friend cancel the order. I wish the seller should be more responsible and honest. Sorry for your problem Jeff!
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Old 12-19-2011, 04:55 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I bought this ANA B747 model after big shooter released it . I noticed the cracks on the belly after checked it a few months later. I believe it was the manufacturing defects on model. I could not return it. I still have it. It is a bad model to have.
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Old 12-19-2011, 07:52 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Hi Guys, thanks and appreciated for all the valuable info. definitely it's a manufacturer paintworks issuse that resulted for the paintcracks and the seller didnt mention it when listed it out.
i will proceed with the dispute on this case. it is sad that such a nice model ended up
with paintcrack.

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Old 12-19-2011, 08:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
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QUOTE=LH B747-430;926555]I would return the model, because it would always bother me! You also mentioned paying much for it, so someone tried to sell you a broken model!! I owned the DW version of this model too and gave it away for free because of this paint crack issue and bought the TucanoLine version instead. Sounds like someone needed to make some quick money, which is not very funny to me, not at all!! Return it and try to get one of the three other versions of this lovely B744D!


any one here have the tucanoline version of this lovely bird?
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