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Old 07-18-2011, 07:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Greeting fellow DACers!

Ever since I started this hobby I've noticed a very obvious void in the 1:200 regional and general aviation domains. Very recently I've decided I may take matters into my own hands and fill a bit of this gap.

What I could probably have produced would be plastic models of smaller aircraft types such as Dash 8 300s, CRJs, Beech 1900s, Cessna 172s+150s, and maybe some seaplanes too. Stuff like that that no other manufacturers thought to bother producing.

I will probably also look into producing 1:200 GSE too. Fuel trucks, catering trucks, containers, baggage trucks, airstairs etc.

Now they would be sort of like kits in that they would have to be painted and decalled and maybe even assembled to some degree (glue or push the wings on and stuff like all the other push fits), but no fuselage seams or puttying etc needed like a regular kit. Decals will probably also be included with them if desired.

So what I'm getting at here is sort of like "market research" and I was wondering if anyone here would consider buying anything like that to fill all those little gaps in your collection. I'm not trying to take orders or anything for these yet, but would anyone pay around say $20-$50 for this kind of thing?

Kind of stuff (aircraft type wise) I might have produced:




















and probably various GSE too.
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I would like to see a Dornier 328 turboprop model. Lots of European liveries, and some U.S. liveries too.

Besides, it is a cool looking plane. The rocketship and Mercedes of the commuter airline set.
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I would love to have some more GSEs - modern one please. However, i am a collector and don't have time and skill of a modeller so would kindly request a completed model please :-)
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I would love to see a Embraer 120!, and some GSE!
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Old 07-18-2011, 10:38 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I always thought it would be cool to have a tiny 1/200 diecast cessna 172 or something like a Learjet lol. Would be cool to have especially to display next to a 747 to really put size into perspective. I wouldnt really be interested in a plastic model, but if a company could produce a high quality 1/200 GA aircraft that would be great. I would certainly buy it.
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Yes to all of the above. These subjects have been overlooked for far too long. Even if assembly were required, how many minutes could it possibly take? I can put a Hogan together in about 30 seconds!
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Old 07-19-2011, 04:03 AM   #7 (permalink)
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i heard there will be 1/200 bizjets coming in the near future .
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Old 07-19-2011, 04:19 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I want EMB-120 Brasilia.

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I have a few regionals that I was surprised by and extremely pleased with, so I will be adding more to these down the road via the usual diecast manus (Gemini, Herpa, JC Wings, etc).

But Cessnas, Pipers, Beechcrafts, etc in 1:200?? Absolutely! I would love a few of these tucked in throughout my collection. Whatever the European equivalent is would be appreciated as well.

I'll pass on the GSE.
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I have a few regionals that I was surprised by and extremely pleased with, so I will be adding more to these down the road. But Cessna 172s+150s in 1:200?? Absolutely! I would love a few of these tucked in throughout my collection. Whatever the European equivalent is would be appreciated as well.
Agreed....although Dont think I would buy these in plastic....I only do metal :P Maybe I would buy trucks/ stairs etc in plastic, but not airplanes...even though a learjet/ cessna/ other Dash8's etc would be nice!
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Old 07-19-2011, 09:09 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I am all for it. It is long overdue. Price is reasonable subject to a reasonable quality of the kit.
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Old 07-19-2011, 09:59 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm very interested even with plastic the should have gears and I'd like GSE 50-70 style !
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Can always do what SmallWorld do, have the GSE's pre-painted. Offering them as kits too would be great for people like me. I would love to see some decent 1:200 vehicles. Also, in regard to general aviation, I am definitely in for Cessna 150/152s etc. I would be very happy to have them in kit form. Although I would be a little concerned at the quality? There are quite a few small scale companies producing small 1:200 scale aircraft and kits etc.. You should maybe contact them and see if they can help? There is also an Australian metal caster who has made a few GSE's already for 1:200.
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Can always do what SmallWorld do, have the GSE's pre-painted. Offering them as kits too would be great for people like me. I would love to see some decent 1:200 vehicles. Also, in regard to general aviation, I am definitely in for Cessna 150/152s etc. I would be very happy to have them in kit form. Although I would be a little concerned at the quality? There are quite a few small scale companies producing small 1:200 scale aircraft and kits etc.. You should maybe contact them and see if they can help? There is also an Australian metal caster who has made a few GSE's already for 1:200.
Who are these people? I haven't found anyone doing civil aircraft in 1:200, but I do know of a firm in the UK that does limited ground vehicles like s/deck buses and nice looking baggage tractors/trailers [ HERE ]. Items are unfinished but no real assembly required.

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Yea i too am a fan of commuters and like you ben see a void in that section of diecast ranges, I would love to see F-27, dornier 228,328 , BAE ATP,saab2000, Jetstream J-41 etc etc and would like to pick up some GSE aswell it would be great.....

Would be great to see cessnas, pipers, bizjets i think they would be a great seller the only thing is a cessna 210 would be tiny in 1/200 i recently bought a 1/200 Jetstream 31 and its fairly small check out below 1/200 fokker 50 beside a 1/200 J-31

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The small commuter airliners and GA have indeed been overlooked by the major manufacturers. Gauging also by the number of requests, GSE will be very popular. I am in for all of the above.
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Yes to all...
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Yes, but as I am more interested in aircraft no newer than about 1970, I would want G/A aircraft to match the era of the '40s through the '70s.

Beech model 18 "Twin Beech"; Beech model 35 Bonanza; Beech Queen Air; Cessna 190; Cessna 310; Grumman Gulfstream 1; Lockheed Lodestar; Aero Commander; DeHavilland Otter; Piper Apache; Norseman. Stuff you'd see at the FBO in 1965.

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Just repeating what I said on the other forum:

I'm not a big follower of smaller aircraft, but there are quite a few guys out there who produce and or build obscure 1:200 stuff. Some names that spring to mind are Ron Crauford, Peter Katrina (Austria?), Chris Sayer (UK) who produces a newsletter called TOTS that stands for (200) THE ONLY TRUE SCALE, I think Chris may have mould for a Beaver and Beech 18. Then there is Wojtek Benzinksi who made the 200 scale resin Avro 748 that was probably used by current manufacturers as a master. Paul Howard who I think mastered the 200 Rotodyne, and Martin Beacom of course who makes the D H Herons. These guys are out there but for some reason they don't seek publicity as they probably couldn't cope with making large quantities.

So how might we convert their skills in to higher volume production ?

Also as the USA is the home of light aircraft production and popular flying, is there not a guy or 2 out there working out of his garden shed or barn making this stuff ?
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Who are these people? I haven't found anyone doing civil aircraft in 1:200, but I do know of a firm in the UK that does limited ground vehicles like s/deck buses and nice looking baggage tractors/trailers [ HERE ]. Items are unfinished but no real assembly required.

Oooooh! ooooh! where and who are they ? I got from yourlink now I know an architectural supply shop near Tower Bridge, is it them ? Obviously not !

JUST SPENT £30 and all by paypal...excellent

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I would definitely be interested in GA aircraft. I would be particularly interested in Cessnas, beechcrafts, Pipers, and a twin commander. Private jets would definitely be welcome. I imagine they would be a nice addition in 1/200.
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Who are these people? I haven't found anyone doing civil aircraft in 1:200, but I do know of a firm in the UK that does limited ground vehicles like s/deck buses and nice looking baggage tractors/trailers [ HERE ]. Items are unfinished but no real assembly required.

Graham has mentioned all the names I was thinking of

I thought http://www.orncastings.com/GSE.html did some 1:200's but I must be mistaken!
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Graham has mentioned all the names I was thinking of
Yes, as he mentioned, these folks do reside below the radar.

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I thought Ornamental Castings - Ground Service Equipment did some 1:200's but I must be mistaken!
Seems to be a lot for everyone BUT the 1:200 crowd, eh? Oh well.
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Learjets...especially a Lear 35 ,global express would be nice!
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Learjets...especially a Lear 35 ,global express would be nice!
And what about a Falcon 20 in the original Federal Express livery ?

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Certainly the 1/200 scale lends itself to the smaller airframes of regional jets, so I don't know why manufactures have not dived into this market. There are a lot of 1/200 collectors who would welcome new additions.
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I think that we have a not bad selection of some of the more common regionals (CRJs, ERJs, ATRs, DH8s, Q400s, Fokkers, etc) in some interesting and classic liveries. But these can always be expanded.

I know I (and a few others here) would sure like to get our hands on something like this.

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I would love an Ansett or Skywest, Fokker 50. More so the skywest because I have flown them. They did a qantas dash 8 so why not the Ansett Fokker 50.
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Oh yes !!

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I knew that would catch your eye! Pretty looking, isn't it. In fact, I think Gemini could make a magnificent job of this.



As a number of us already know, the Dassault Falcon 20 (and its variants) were used by several prolific carriers, including Emirates (A6-EXA Registration now used for one of their A380s) for prestige charter work.

This gorgeous, sexy French jet would make a fantastic subject with scores of liveries (commercial & military) and I can make room for one or two right now!
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