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Old 02-08-2011, 11:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Inflight200, JCwings, gemini etc...

Can you guys list your preferences in order
if they were to come up with exactly the same model??

and why?
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My first choice is 100% Gemini. HOWEVER, I do understand that most collectors out there dont have access to 3 local retailers where they can go and hand pick their models like I can. We are very lucky here in the Chicago area so thats a big reason why I have had nothing but good luck with my Gemini models simply because I can see them before buying them. I will say that my IF200 models do seem a little tougher and more consistant.

So without taking into consideration possible shipment damages or QC issues I say hands down Gemini!! I like IF200 but they do seem to lack some of the finer details that gemini has. I have a few Jet-X models and I would say they are overall similar to IF200 maybe a little better.

So with the 3 brands I have in my collection here is what I think....

#1 Gemini Jets
The rest fall behind in details and accuracies generally.

I have also had Herpa Premium aircraft and they are outstanding and would be at the top of my list, but they are on a whole nother price bracket.

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The problem is not really who the manufacturer is, BUT what the models look like.
Of course, I'll go to the best and the more accurate model.
It has nothing to do with the name it has under the belly.
That's the only way to purify this hobby and show the manufacturers that we are able to be selective.

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I can't say I choose one make over an other simply because of the name. I may start there, but my final decision will often be made on other reasons, like livery offered, accuracy, level of detail and finese, etc.

For instance, a lot of firms make the A320. I personally, just happen to like the looks of the Gemini product, say, over Herpa or Hogan or AV200 or JC Wings. For me, it is how Gemini handles the flight deck windscreen, so it is merely personal. Of course, it IS nice that that the Gemini product is diecast and festooned with detail bits the others don't usually have.

On the other hand, Gemini, Jet-X, AV200, AK200 and JC Wings also make the BAe 146, and honestly, I have no preference over make except who is offering the livery I may be interested in. They are all pretty much the same, as far as I can tell, likely due to mould-swapping.

I think you may find that a lot of us are all over the map on this one.
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It depends on the type of plane. There is also a lot of mould sharing.

To name a few...

Jet X-Best 727-200 on the market
Gemini-Best 757, MD-80, L1011, Dash 8, CRJ, very good 727 & 737
Hogan-Great 777's, 767's, Airbuses across the board..
Inflight-Great 747
JC Wings-See Jet X and Gemini
Avaition 200 is putting out some very good DC-10's...
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Well, I like(d) the manufacturers that no longer seem to be around! (Skyline, Heathrow, Historic, DH) primarily because, for me they seemed to have the most interesting models. I prefer historic liveries on older jets vs. modern day liveries on current jets. I have a slew of VC-10s, 707's, etc.
I've recently rejoined the land of the collectors only to learn of the demise of CAM (my past procurer of choice) and the model lines I've referenced.
Luckily enough for me, like James I live in Chicago now where there are retailers, (JTS97Z28...I only know of the one near O'Hare. Where are others?). So, right now I'd say it's a tie between GeminiJets and InFlight, depending on the model/livery.
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When Gemini gets a model right, IMO, they are the best model in diecast 200 and best value.
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Luckily enough for me, like James I live in Chicago now where there are retailers, (JTS97Z28...I only know of the one near O'Hare. Where are others?).
Dang you serious? you have never heard of Grayland Station or Past-Time Hobbies and you live around Chicago? Man your missin out ;-)

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When Gemini gets a model right, IMO, they are the best model in diecast 200 and best value.
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I prefer Gemini for narrow bodies and HG/HE for wide bodies
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For diecast overall:

GJ200 is right on top of my list because,

Pro:
Competitively priced
Excellent packaging
Free Stands
Good to excellent moulds - profile and shape of airframe are captured correctly
Good to excellent finish - Colour and tampo printing accuracy
Fine detailing

Con:
Releases are heavily tied to corporate or airline orders and airline license dependent.
Lapses in their Quality Control. Needs a continuous effort to maintain QC.

The rest are all mediocre: IF200, Jet-X200, AV200/JC200/BB200/FlightLine200 - inconsistent with their QC or lack of it. The worst in QC errors is IF200 It is also expensive and packaging is lame.


For Plastic:
Hogan is tops.

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Inflight200 for 747s. I have sixteen of them and love them all!
Gemini/JC Wings for 777s
Gemini for all others

Not a big fan of AV200, though they make intersting liveries. They often have little irksome flaws.

Jet-x - models are heavy and I have a couple, but again, not a big fan.
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Dang you serious? you have never heard of Grayland Station or Past-Time Hobbies and you live around Chicago? Man your missin out ;-)

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All in the Chicago area.
Thanks for this! I'll look 'em up. I've only been here 2.5 years and have just rediscovered my 1:200 models, much to the chagrin of my wallet!
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The problem is not really who the manufacturer is, BUT what the models look like.
Of course, I'll go to the best and the more accurate model.
It has nothing to do with the name it has under the belly.
That's the only way to purify this hobby and show the manufacturers that we are able to be selective.

Jean Pierre.
I agree with you Jean.
It is a silly question. Each and every 1/200 manufacturers have pros & cons.
They are good in their own way. I choose by airline, not by manufacturers.
Well, I try to stick in diecast though.
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Actually, it isn't really a silly question. It looks like the original poster is new (Feb11) and is looking for some input from fellow enthusiasts. While old hands have probably had enough of the back and forth about incorrect engines, models sitting too low, cockpit windows that are too high, people new to the hobby want and need a little information to get started. In 400s, making a mistake costs $25. In 200s, a mistake can cost nearly five times that. If you're tired of the question, you can always move to the next thread. And to SLee422, welcome to the hobby. I hope you have lots of room in your house because this hobby IS addicting.

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The packaging is lame? I couldn't care less what the box looks like. I see it for a few minutes and then into the closet it goes.
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I agree with you Jean.
It is a silly question. Each and every 1/200 manufacturers have pros & cons.
They are good in their own way. I choose by airline, not by manufacturers.
Well, I try to stick in diecast though.
I don't think it's a silly question at all. It's okay to ask for other people's opinions.


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It depends on the type of plane. There is also a lot of mould sharing.

To name a few...

Jet X-Best 727-200 on the market
Gemini-Best 757, MD-80, L1011, Dash 8, CRJ, very good 727 & 737
Hogan-Great 777's, 767's, Airbuses across the board..
Inflight-Great 747
JC Wings-See Jet X and Gemini
Avaition 200 is putting out some very good DC-10's...
I can agree with all of that, and maybe add the 707-320C to Inflight. I also like Aviation 200's BAC 1-11s in spite of the gappy wing seam and really bad cockpit windows - overall shape, detail and tampo have been great.
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Gemini no question about that, the rest suck. Hogan is #1 in plastics but if we put Hasewaga Model Kits its 100% no doubt Hasewaga Models beat Hogan by a long run.
Gemini is the best the rest suck not worth buying.
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Gemini no question about that, the rest suck. Hogan is #1 in plastics but if we put Hasewaga Model Kits its 100% no doubt Hasewaga Models beat Hogan by a long run.
Gemini is the best the rest suck not worth buying.
I think I speak for everyone when I say thank you for your informative, detailed, and well thought out post.
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It depends on the type of plane. There is also a lot of mould sharing.

To name a few...

Jet X-Best 727-200 on the market
Gemini-Best 757, MD-80, L1011, Dash 8, CRJ, very good 727 & 737
Hogan-Great 777's, 767's, Airbuses across the board..
Inflight-Great 747
JC Wings-See Jet X and Gemini
Avaition 200 is putting out some very good DC-10's...
Gemini has the best airbuses im really happy with my A319 Taca very accurate and realistic. JC wings not recommended
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The packaging is lame? I couldn't care less what the box looks like. I see it for a few minutes and then into the closet it goes.
I have ripped the cardboard jacket so many times the reason it is a lame packaging. At times it is the cradle is hard to slide out of the jacket.
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Only one 1/200 so far, a Gemini Delta L1011-500. Very pleased with it except the weak metal stand. Hope to get a wood stand for it. Do have a second 1/200 on order, the Inflight QF 747sp. Hoping for the best as it will be my first IF.
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My big 3 are Gemini200, Inflight200 and Hogan. They have released some amazing models and there are at least 2 dozen models between those three manufacturers that I must have.
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Thank you everyone for lots of replies.

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I just wanted to know what you all preferred.
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If money is no object then go with Herpa Premium.
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The packaging is lame? I couldn't care less what the box looks like. I see it for a few minutes and then into the closet it goes.
Well if we confine packaging to the cosmetic decoration on the box, I agree . . . who really cares? (Although I tend to treat nice packages in storage with a bit more care)

But if we extend packaging to include the insides, things can change abruptly. Just ask anyone who has ordered one of Gemini's C-17 and received a box with elevator bits/assembly floating about due to the model shifting thanks to insufficient contact or too much!

I've had antennae bits floating about in boxes because the model has shifted in transit and the holes cleverly cut out of the thin plastic cover to accommodate them has sheared them right off. Then tampo printing rubbed off thanks again to too much movement on other brands.

Yes . . . packaging can be lame -- and it isn't confined to one maker.
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packaging is important...even when I display mu models I never mistreat the boxes...they also add value to the model in the coming years...model quality check is no less important...for so many of us buying models without seing them first, it can be risky, time consuming, stressing, frustrating,...all manufacturers have flaws...and qualities...and if theres something I've learned in these few years collecting, is that THERE IS NO PERFECT MODEL ! we should go for what we like, the odd model, whatever, having in mind its the pleasure we take in bringing a model home with us, to put it next to the other boxes in a corner
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I like Gemini best for mould quality and packaging, and Aviation 200 best for livery selection.
But then, some AV200 models are Gemini moulds so I guess that's the best of both worlds.
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Let me add this. I would LIKE Gemini to be my only source. Can they do it? Nope, but it would be nice if they could do at least 90%.
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Well if we confine packaging to the cosmetic decoration on the box, I agree . . . who really cares? (Although I tend to treat nice packages in storage with a bit more care)

But if we extend packaging to include the insides, things can change abruptly. Just ask anyone who has ordered one of Gemini's C-17 and received a box with elevator bits/assembly floating about due to the model shifting thanks to insufficient contact or too much!

I've had antennae bits floating about in boxes because the model has shifted in transit and the holes cleverly cut out of the thin plastic cover to accommodate them has sheared them right off. Then tampo printing rubbed off thanks again to too much movement on other brands.

Yes . . . packaging can be lame -- and it isn't confined to one maker.
Well, I've had my fair share of problems with Gemini's black foam with fragile parts of the model getting stuck to it. I'm not entirely convinced that it is better than regular styrofoam.
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Well, I've had my fair share of problems with Gemini's black foam with fragile parts of the model getting stuck to it. I'm not entirely convinced that it is better than regular styrofoam.
It sounds to me that we are in agreement. More needs to be done regarding the sometimes substandard packages these models get packed in. I've never had the black bits you speak of but others have -- and worse. The packing my Gemini A320's arrived in were free of issue and with a bullet-proof box.
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Well, I've had my fair share of problems with Gemini's black foam with fragile parts of the model getting stuck to it. I'm not entirely convinced that it is better than regular styrofoam.
I am 100% damaged free on GJ200 packaging. AV/JC200 styrofoam cradle and PHX200 cradle caused broken antennas. I also like GJ200 cradle material compared to IF200/AV/JC200 sytrofoam. Styrofoam tend to breakdown easily as the material ages.

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#1 Small World
#2 Western Models
#3 Herpa or GJ200 & some IF200s

Bottom of the list: JC Wings, AK200, Flightline 200, & AV200. They're just not up to standard!
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