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Old 08-07-2009, 11:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This one joined my Lufthansa-collection today. You will find more pictures in the diecast-section of my homepage.

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Wow nice pictures, its a beautiful model. Post more!
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I have seen this one in a retailers cabinet yesterday but had a short glimpse only. What do you think about the Herpa DC-8 mould?
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I really love the old LH livery. Beautiful model.
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The German Widget. Lovely.
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Lufthansa looks amazing on the 8!...but not to burst any bubbles....this aircraft was a one-off and had the turbojet ejector type pylons with the turbofan engines. Sadly the aircraft was scrapped. Either way...great to see this model out there for collectors.
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Lufthansa looks amazing on the 8!...but not to burst any bubbles....this aircraft was a one-off and had the turbojet ejector type pylons with the turbofan engines. Sadly the aircraft was scrapped. Either way...great to see this model out there for collectors.
It Was Leased From Delta As A Stop Gap Measure Until LH Took Delivery Of More 707s. No Bubbles Burst Here. Doesn't Matter To Me If It Was One Off Or In The Fleet For One Day...It Counts.
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It Was Leased From Delta As A Stop Gap Measure Until LH Took Delivery Of More 707s. No Bubbles Burst Here. Doesn't Matter To Me If It Was One Off Or In The Fleet For One Day...It Counts.
For sure it does! (Like the CPAir DC-8-63 that was converted to a CFM -73). It never flew, but it was a -73 with a CP scheme!, and I want it

What I was trying to convey was that the model may have the incorrect pylons for the engines. As DC-8's were converted to fan engines, the extended ejector rail type pylon was also replaced. This Lufthansa,(Delta, etc), was a one off that didn't get the new pylons. Its a nitpick...but this aircraft was very unique for the several owners that had it.
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For sure it does! (Like the CPAir DC-8-63 that was converted to a CFM -73). It never flew, but it was a -73 with a CP scheme!, and I want it
Can you post pics?
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For sure it does! (Like the CPAir DC-8-63 that was converted to a CFM -73). It never flew, but it was a -73 with a CP scheme!, and I want it

What I was trying to convey was that the model may have the incorrect pylons for the engines. As DC-8's were converted to fan engines, the extended ejector rail type pylon was also replaced. This Lufthansa,(Delta, etc), was a one off that didn't get the new pylons. Its a nitpick...but this aircraft was very unique for the several owners that had it.
A Few Years Back I Was SURE I Seen A Pic Of It In A Douglas DC-8 Book. The Book Was On Sale For 8 Bucks, But I was Too mad For Models At The Time & They Took Precendence. I Could Kick Myself In The A.ss Now For Not Picking One Up!
It Looks Like A Job For Gemini. Thier Orange Is A Bit Light, But The Best So Far In 1/400.
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L1011...think I hv it. Let me check it out....
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A Few Years Back I Was SURE I Seen A Pic Of It In A Douglas DC-8 Book. The Book Was On Sale For 8 Bucks, But I was Too mad For Models At The Time & They Took Precendence. I Could Kick Myself In The A.ss Now For Not Picking One Up!
It Looks Like A Job For Gemini. Thier Orange Is A Bit Light, But The Best So Far In 1/400.
Hi Rick, its Terry Waddington's Great AIrliners book, I am looking at it now. The A?C had an American regn for the ferry flight outa Canada.
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One way you can tell your pics are good.... You can see dust particles..
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One way you can tell your pics are good.... You can see dust particles..
Gives a nice sense of realism, doesn't it?
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All the photo's posted are great! I do own a copy of this LH DC-8. The lack of detail on the wings/pylons/engines is a bit of a pitfall for an expensive model. It's nice, but it could be better.

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Here is a link to the CP Air DC-8-73. It never saw service with CP Air.

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What I was trying to convey was that the model may have the incorrect pylons for the engines. As DC-8's were converted to fan engines, the extended ejector rail type pylon was also replaced. This Lufthansa,(Delta, etc), was a one off that didn't get the new pylons. Its a nitpick...but this aircraft was very unique for the several owners that had it.

Yes -- this is true. Because it was the prototype, it never benefitted from the pylon retrofit that other -11 series DC8s did when their engines were upgraded to JT3Ds from JT3C turbojets. The pylons on N8008D were like the earlier "ducktail" type, but obviously without the reverser/ejector silencer rings.




But the real problem I have with this mold in any livery thus far is the utter lack of painted detail on the engine cowlings and pylons to represent the varigated panels which were such a hallmark of the -50 and -61 series DC8s and gave the engines such a beefy, bulky look.

Also, the tail is just a bit too narrow.
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There was at least one other early series DC-8 that had similar ejector type pylons after being retrofitted with turbofans. This was the French Air Force DC-8-53 that was originally a -33 and used for electronic surveilence. Can be seen in the musuem at Le Bourget- here`s the link

JetPhotos.Net Photo » F-RAFE (CN: 45570) France - Air Force Douglas DC-8-53 by Jukka Juutilainen

As for the Herpa model, the wings also are too far forward -it just doesn`t look right. We need someone else to bring out the short body DC-8 in 1/200.

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I am enjoying this thread. I never knew or imagined that there was ever an LH DC-8 - so I am learning some history here. My collecting of 1:200 airliner models is only casual; I just like 'em but I am not serious. By reading this thread I've learned something I could have never imagined to have been true - an LH DC-8 really existed.

It seems as odd as the Eastern DC-10 I flew on from Miami to Buenos Aires and back. Who knew? Or those L-1011-500s that UA got when it bought Pan Am's Pacific routes and flew the L-10s for a short while in UA colors?

Are there other interesting oddities that I'd enjoy - either as 1:200 models or in real life?

Thanks to those who know more for adding some to this thread.

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I got to check this one out at AI2009. Sure is a beauty!! Great pics 727Pilot!
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Wonderful photos of Herpa's latest attempt to replicate the DC-8.
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Wonderful model but where are the antennas?!
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A blast from the past here.......Still no decent 200 scale model of an early DC-8 then ? And with IF bringing out a C/V880 and 990 I doubt we'll see one for a while.

So some help from you guys please with my next project. I'm going to start hacking away at my Doyusha and Nitto DC-8-61's.

Can anyone please tell me how much (in m.mm if possible) I need to take out the forward section and then the rear section to get the length right.

And can I adjust the wingspan by working away at the wingtips ? Or is it more complicated than that ?

Then there's the engines !

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So I stopped being lazy....There were no easy comparison drawings in Terry Waddington's DC-8 book, so I started a re-read of the body copy and found it. The DC-8-61 was created by inserting 2 fuselage plugs, Forward plug was 200" (so 1" in 200 scale) and the rear fuselage plug was 240" (1.2" in 200 scale). Problem solved and I'm ready to embark on making a couple of early short DC-8's. Maybe SAS, KLM diagonal stripe or PanAm or PanAir db, or UAT or TAI......................
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It's a real shame no one makes a short DC-8 in 1/200. Herpa made five of them and I send them an e-mail a couple of month ago if they would bring out the model again. It seems that the mould is damaged so they can't make them anymore..

So good luck with your future DC-8's Graham! Hope we see some pictures in the future, especially that KLM...Here are the ones Herpa made (five)...


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I have to say your photography really flatters that model well but alas the model fell well short of what it really had the possibility of being. Maybe Herpa could re-do it if the mould is damaged (a blessing perhaps).
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Let's hope Herpa will..All in all I still am quite happy with them..They are not too bad, are they?
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When is this coming out in T.C.A and Air Canada Colors?
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When is this coming out in T.C.A and Air Canada Colors?
Only when there is a good mould I hope. IF could easily make one of these and have engine options as well. There must be at least 50 different schemes......licence to print money.

KLM x 2, JAL, SAS, TCA, Air Canada, PanAm, Canadian Pacific (goose), National, UAT, TAI, Alitalia, United, Eastern, Delta, Northwest, PanAgra, Panair, Varig, Trans Caribean, Airlift, Capitol, Trans International, Aviaco, Iberia, TAE , World, Seaboard, Air New Zealand, Aeronaves de Mexico, etc. Thats 30 for starters.

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