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Old 12-12-2008, 03:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default AP vs HG vs RS - B773 Fuselage length differences

Ever since I got my EgyptAir 773, I kept getting the feeling that there's something off about the fuselage length. Last week, I put my RS Emirates 773 next to it, and now something definitely felt off.

A visit to the Boeing website confirmed that the 777-300 and the 777-300ER are both 242 feet and 4 inches in length.

The only thing left to do with strip the fuselages of wings etc, and line them up. The pictures speak for themselves.

AP EgyptAir 777-300ER
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Old 12-12-2008, 04:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Great photos. Which one is correct? Do you know?
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Oh dear. Another moot point. Now who's correct here and who isn't?

I hope you were careful when removing the JAL wings. I put decals on those!



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Oh yes Moin, very careful. The decals are intact and looking beautiful.

As far as correctness goes, I'm not sure. Can't really use pictures to figure this one out! Anyone have any ideas?
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Well, if we don't know which one is correct, then what was the point of the comparison? lol. Just to show us they're all different? This isn't something that would deter me from buying a model, I just want to know out of curiosity which one is correct.
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The MS 773ER seems to be the longest of the lot.



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As far as correctness goes, I'm not sure. Can't really use pictures to figure this one out! Anyone have any ideas?
I guess you'd have to convert the feet to inches and then divide by 200? I have no idea - I'm not good at math.
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Neither am I. I say lets just bury this topic lol. The less discrepancies we know the better.



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I guess you'd have to convert the feet to inches and then divide by 200? I have no idea - I'm not good at math.
That would be the way to go I guess.



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A visit to the Boeing website confirmed that the 777-300 and the 777-300ER are both 242 feet and 4 inches in length.
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I guess you'd have to convert the feet to inches and then divide by 200?
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That would be the way to go I guess.
So the length in inches is 2908 inches...so divide that by 200 and you get 14.5". Now mhansari did you measure those models? The ones closest to 14.5" inches would be the most accurate.



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Guys, I know we're in America, but it's more accurate to measure a 1/200 scale model in metric units... 200 is base 10, after all.

242'4" is 7,386.3 cm. In 1/200 scale that's 36.9 cm (or 369 mm... see how exact that is?), and that's the number you're looking for.

1/144 scale models would be measured in inches... note that 144 is the square of 12.

It's a moot debate anyway... by Occam's razor, the EgyptAir bird is incorrect.

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242 ft and 4 inches = 2908 inches

In 1:200 scale just divide by 200 and that would be ---------------14.54 inches or 36.93 centimeters as mentionned by Andy

A simple division does the job


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My Air Canada 773 hogan reaches +/- 36.60 Centimeters
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Rude I already mentioned that

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So the length in inches is 2908 inches...so divide that by 200 and you get 14.5"
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242'4" is 7,386.3 cm. In 1/200 scale that's 36.9 cm
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242 ft and 4 inches = 2908 inches

In 1:200 scale just divide by 200 and that would be 14.54 inches or 36.93 centimeters as mentionned by Andy. A simple division does the job


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Rude I already mentioned that
i mentioned it louder, and with more pizazz...
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My Air Canada 773 hogan reaches +/- 36.60 Centimeters
I haven't done the measurements yet, but if the HG 773 is 36.60 centimeters, then thats 0.30 centimeters (or 3 millimeters) shy of the magic number we're looking for. Which means that the AP 773 might be the right size...

Incidentally, 0.30 centimeters (or 3 millimeters) at 200 scale equates to about 2 ft 3 inches on a real 773!

These RS vs HG vs AP vs HE threads bear a lot of resemblance to the time tested "Airbus vs Boeing" threads on Airliners.net, don't they? Good fun though, I have to say
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Neither am I. I say lets just bury this topic lol. The less discrepancies we know the better.
I should say speak for yourself. This is an interesting comparison review. If others have time to dissect the models, let them have the fun to do so.

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I hope you were careful when removing the JAL wings. I put decals on those!
Moin and Hassan, you guys are hilarious! sounded like brothers or married couple, hehe. i didn't mean this in a BAD way, so please accept it only as a joke.

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Neither am I. I say lets just bury this topic lol. The less discrepancies we know the better.
lol, math! haha. just too funny!!!
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A 777-300's fuselage is not 242ft, 4in. The OVERALL length is 242ft, 4in. The fuselage length is 239ft, 9in. (surprisingly close, most airliners differ more in overall vs fuselage---the 727 of course has a very large difference)

In 1/200 for a 773 *fuselage*, you want 365.3 mm, or 36.5cm. Not 36.9.

Curious point---I wonder if the Egyptair one is 36.9cm or so, and that the model maker thought that overall length and fuselage length were the same, and that's why it's longer? (they made the fuselage alone 242/4, instead of making the whole model together 242/4)
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guys then it means we will see more of such topics coming up soon... a compare of the A332 lengths of RS and HG..... et al...!!
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guys then it means we will see more of such topics coming up soon... a compare of the A332 lengths of RS and HG..... et al...!!
The A332 was done...just search the threads....Poor RS/SM A332 was really bashed. ..Trying to defend RS/SM now with the 744



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I measured AP Egypt Air B773 at 36.7 cm.
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strange... all this time, i thought the mould was the same / borrowed from HE / HG...

Even the stand slot is the same... now i am really lost...
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I should say speak for yourself. This is an interesting comparison review. If others have time to dissect the models, let them have the fun to do so.
I kind of meant that as a joke. No need to snap at me.



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I kind of meant that as a joke. No need to snap at me.
Now that's a joke!
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