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Old 12-11-2007, 11:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Are the Gemini200 models made entirely of aluminum? Do they have that 'heavy' metal feel like the other 1/200 scale metal model brands?

I hope they release some 757s soon, perhaps American or Delta!
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Well no one here (except Crownvic) has actually seen (besides in pics) or held a new GJ, so he'll have to tell us how heavy the feel. I'm assuming they'll be of pretty solid construction and rather heavy like IF200s.

Yes, I say bring on the 757s soon too! Of course I can't wait to have the winglet equipped CO 757 and 737-700/-800 to display side by side; they'll look nice!
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yes the models are heavy like regular diecast ones!

mike there are gj200 a320s already released. i dont think he specifically mentioned the "new" ones.
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yes the models are heavy like regular diecast ones!

mike there are gj200 a320s already released. i dont think he specifically mentioned the "new" ones.
Oops, good call Kai! The A320s haven't really interested me so far and for some reason I want to set them apart from the 'new' GJs in my mind.

Which brings up another question, best directed to our man Russell: Is there in fact a difference in quality, detail, etc., between the A320s and the upcoming 737s and 757s? It seems you anounced this 'new' line to everyone on the forum well after the A320s were out, so is there a practical difference between the A320s and the rest of the future releases? Did GJ up the ante after the A320?
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Oops, good call Kai! The A320s haven't really interested me so far and for some reason I want to set them apart from the 'new' GJs in my mind.
haha is that cuz conti doesnt operate any? =P
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haha is that cuz conti doesnt operate any? =P
Haha, actually I was referring more to just the GJ A320s that are out so far; none of them really appeal to me. I'd go for the British Airways, but I've already got the StarJets BA A319. It's too bad GJ (and seemingly all other makers in all scales) goofed on the fuselage color of the Northwest new colors A320, because I love that scheme, especially on that plane! At least, this is how it appears in photos... all glitery and much to dark/silverish. If that fuselage color really is that difficult to replicate, they would have been better off going with a light greyish-beige color, which shouldn't be too hard to do. If I am wrong about all this and the color looks much better on the model that it does in photos, someone please let me know. Otherwise, I'll hold my breath for a 'bowling shoe' NW A320 from GJ or perhaps United 'battleship grey'.
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Kai is slightly out... (with respect) .. The GJ's are about half way between an Inflight and a Herpa... whilst GJ's are heavier than resin, they are not as heavy as the Inflights.. which are not as heavy as Western/Skylines...

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Kai is slightly out... (with respect) .. The GJ's are about half way between an Inflight and a Herpa... whilst GJ's are heavier than resin, they are not as heavy as the Inflights.. which are not as heavy as Western/Skylines...
Wanna Bowling shoe number.. save yer money buy a Starjets one!!
I may jump on the SJ NW, but I'd prefer GJ even though it's probably twice as expensive, but the extra detail such as antennas is worth it for me.

Agent, you wouldn't happen to have the new colors NW from GJ, would you? If you do, would you mind posting some pics? I'd be interested to see how the fuselage color looks in one of your superb photos.
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I think that the heavier ones are Phoenix.... even heavier than IF200
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Agree with you there, the Phoenix (727 Carvair) and Hogan stuff are very heavy..
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I may jump on the SJ NW, but I'd prefer GJ even though it's probably twice as expensive, but the extra detail such as antennas is worth it for me.

Agent, you wouldn't happen to have the new colors NW from GJ, would you? If you do, would you mind posting some pics? I'd be interested to see how the fuselage color looks in one of your superb photos.
Here's an older thread with photos of it.

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.. well its not going off thread.. some piccies as requested by Mike 777.. they thave been posted here before...











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I love this one. I wasn't sure I wanted it until I saw AX's photos.
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I just got it.... it has a awesome finish.... I got it because of those pics, it is my 3rd GJ and just can't stop looking at it
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The GJ's are about half way between an Inflight and a Herpa... whilst GJ's are heavier than resin, they are not as heavy as the Inflights.. which are not as heavy as Western/Skylines...

Exactly. I remember reading it here, that the GJ aluminum is lighter than other solid metal.
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I just got it.... it has a awesome finish.... I got it because of those pics, it is my 3rd GJ and just can't stop looking at it
It is my third one, as well. Ted and BA being my other two. Still holding out on US Airways.
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Still holding out on US Airways.
Agreed, that new livery just doesn't do it for me.... I have BA and Cebu, have decided to get TED though.
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The GJ200 Airbus mould and detail is way better than Starjets. The cost of the GJ200 is a good value in my opinion.
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Agreed, that new livery just doesn't do it for me.... I have BA and Cebu, have decided to get TED though.
Cebu is growing on me. Maybe the US Airways/PSA, given I like PSA. I would like to have a US Airways model, but am uncertain which livery I like best.
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I would like to have a US Airways model, but am uncertain which livery I like best.
If you're not certain, you won't go wrong with getting both liveries.
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I love this one. I wasn't sure I wanted it until I saw AX's photos.
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I just got it.... it has a awesome finish.... I got it because of those pics, it is my 3rd GJ and just can't stop looking at it
Guys, you're kidding, right?? These pics confirmed what I feared (ridiculously inaccurate fuselage color) and because of them I WON'T be getting this model. Of course, nothing against the pics, they're great as always Agent! But just take a look at the model vs. the real thing...




I know the NW fuselage color tends to appear different under different light (what livery doesn't?), but GJ is way off the mark. And strangely, so is every other manufacturer in every other scale. Too bad, I like this scheme!
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I have to agree with you that the color is not not the exact match... I have seen other models and there is not one that has reproduced the real thing. For me, even if the color is a little off (arguably because it tends to change a lot) the pearlscent effect is right on the spot...

If you see the pics you posted, you'll notice that it goes from light grey to a pearlish grey... well that effect is what I think is well achieved in the GJ model... looks like those Audi A4 some years ago, strange paint indeed...
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Mine was free, so I really can't complain...
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Compare the weight between the 1:400 Phoenix A380 and the Gemini A380 models there is a noticeable difference in weight.
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I know the NW fuselage color tends to appear different under different light (what livery doesn't?), but GJ is way off the mark.
Mike, this is the same problem with the fuselage colour on VS models in 1:400 by GJ. The earlier batch of models came in silver but the colour was later revised and the later batch of models look darn good, IMO.

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Model Details for Gemini Jets 1:400 Virgin Atlantic Airways A340-642 - Wings900 ID# 6511

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Model Details for Gemini Jets 1:400 Virgin Atlantic Airways A340-642 - Wings900 ID# 11258
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Compare the weight between the 1:400 Phoenix A380 and the Gemini A380 models there is a noticeable difference in weight.
Which is lighter? How much is noticeable?
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Mike, this is the same problem with the fuselage colour on VS models in 1:400 by GJ. The earlier batch of models came in silver but the colour was later revised and the later batch of models look darn good, IMO.

See for yourself:

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Model Details for Gemini Jets 1:400 Virgin Atlantic Airways A340-642 - Wings900 ID# 6511

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Model Details for Gemini Jets 1:400 Virgin Atlantic Airways A340-642 - Wings900 ID# 11258

Wow! Gemini could have used the same paint for their NW models as they did for the later Virgins and it would have been just about perfect. Well, maybe this means there is hope for a corrected version of the 1:200 NW A319.

Edit: Haha, nice Euro spelling of "color" btw. Classy.

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The color difference is negligible, IMO.
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The color difference is negligible, IMO.
Goodess, I must have ultra-sensitive eyes.
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I'm a bit confused (no surprise there) on two counts:

1) The one D-AIHC says is the wrong colour says in the database description that it is the "Late '1990s'" colours. It is the Silver Lady. The model D-AIHC says is the right colour says in the database description that it is the "2000s" colours. How much of a difference was there between the late 1990s colours and the 2000s colours? I believe the earlier scheme had an all-red tail, then the blue outline was added at some point. Both models D-AIHC provided us photos of, however, show the same paint scheme on the tail. Is it possible that the Silver Lady was at one time painted silver and that is the scheme GJ was depicting the earlier model?

2) Were Virgin 747s painted silver whereas A340s were not? Lady Penelope for example, was painted in the "silver dream scheme" in the summer of 1999, and it is clearly silver and not the almost metallic/pearl white as shown in most of the photos. Even the GJ400 model I have of Lady Penelope is silver. Or was it just that particular plane that was painted silver?

Photos: Boeing 747-4Q8 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net

I'm only slightly upset that the RS A340 I have is silver, too, which means it is incorrect. Oh, well.

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even though it's the wrong color, that NWA a319 is growing on me. i think that its even better than NWA's current colors, it has a sort of pearlescent colors to it.
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It does look a little like the gunmetal grey that Audi use...

One that does look quite smart, the model in the flesh is a lot nicer than some of the pictures..

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The WBF on the A319/A320 still get me... too far aft.

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I'm a bit confused (no surprise there) on two counts:

1) The one D-AIHC says is the wrong colour says in the database description that it is the "Late '1990s'" colours. It is the Silver Lady. The model D-AIHC says is the right colour says in the database description that it is the "2000s" colours. How much of a difference was there between the late 1990s colours and the 2000s colours? I believe the earlier scheme had an all-red tail, then the blue outline was added at some point. Both models D-AIHC provided us photos of, however, show the same paint scheme on the tail. Is it possible that the Silver Lady was at one time painted silver and that is the scheme GJ was depicting the earlier model?

2) Were Virgin 747s painted silver whereas A340s were not? Lady Penelope for example, was painted in the "silver dream scheme" in the summer of 1999, and it is clearly silver and not the almost metallic/pearl white as shown in most of the photos. Even the GJ400 model I have of Lady Penelope is silver. Or was it just that particular plane that was painted silver?

Photos: Boeing 747-4Q8 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net

I'm only slightly upset that the RS A340 I have is silver, too, which means it is incorrect. Oh, well.
1) I don't believe there was any considerable change to the VS livery between the late 1990s and the year 2000. Probably just a small error when entering the information into the database. The early 1990s VS livery had a white fuselage and only the vertical stab was red. The 2006 livery also has an all-red tail without the purple outline.

2). As far as I know, no VS plane was ever painted silver, not even the 747s. The VS fuselage color changes a lot depending on the light and the quallity of the photo, which is the reason why it appears to be silver quite frequently. The new GJ VS 747s also were released with the updated fuselage color.

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1) I don't believe there was any considerable change to the VS livery between the late 1990s and the year 2000. Probably just a small error when entering the information into the database. The early 1990s VS livery had a white fuselage and only the vertical stab was red. The 2006 livery also has an all-red tail without the purple outline.
Makes ya wonder why one of the A340s was called Silver Lady if they were never silver. lol.

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2). As far as I know, no VS plane was ever painted silver, not even the 747s. The VS fuselage color changes a lot depending on the light and the quallity of the photo, which is the reason why it appears to be silver quite frequently. The new GJ VS 747s also were released with the updated fuselage color.
So, the new livery is kind of a pearl/metallic white, then? Thanks for your information!
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So, the new livery is kind of a pearl/metallic white, then? Thanks for your information!
Yes, and very similar to the new Northwest color.
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It does look a little like the gunmetal grey that Audi use...
One that does look quite smart, the model in the flesh is a lot nicer than some of the pictures..
Hey that one does look pretty good! I forgot/never knew about this release from IF. Seriously considering it now.
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Yes, and very similar to the new Northwest color.
Well then, I certainly hope some manufacturer comes out with correct versions in 200 scale. Makes me not want to display the A340 I have now.
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Well then, I certainly hope some manufacturer comes out with correct versions in 200 scale. Makes me not want to display the A340 I have now.
Now you understand how I feel about the GJ Northwest A319. The color is flat out wrong, like the silver Virgin Atlantics.
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Well then, I certainly hope some manufacturer comes out with correct versions in 200 scale. Makes me not want to display the A340 I have now.
I hope so too. I sold my older GJ 744 once the color was updated. I think the models look much better with the corrected color.

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Hey that one does look pretty good! I forgot/never knew about this release from IF. Seriously considering it now.
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Its a non - looker in the photos, but a lovely little model in the flesh...

I actually think it looks pretty good in the pics, so it really must be something if you say it is indeed better in the flesh. It looks like IF really is spot-on with the fuselage color, think I might go ahead and get this one. I'm gonna fly an NW DC-9 for the first time in about 3 weeks as well!
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.. sorry re-phrase that.. from The 'official' Inflight photos it was a non looker... but having purchased.. IMHO its one of the nicer DC9's...

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Agent X20, your IF200 DC-9 NWA looks to be the best one out there, in terms of color matching. Gotta love AX20's photography skill! compare that to ARIFUSA... it's like Night and Day...
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I'm thinking about getting one of the Gemini200 models. Although it's made of aluminum, does each model still have a "heavy metal" feel compared with other 1/200 die-cast places? Just curious.

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Old 01-18-2008, 06:26 PM   #46 (permalink)
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if you needed some reminding, you asked pretty much the same question in post #1 of this thread.
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if you needed some reminding, you asked pretty much the same question in post #1 of this thread.
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if you needed some reminding, you asked pretty much the same question in post #1 of this thread.
You can't really blame him he's asking it after a month He obviously forgot ..



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if you needed some reminding, you asked pretty much the same question in post #1 of this thread.
And two separate threads too, this thread and the following:

http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...-aluminum.html
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