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Old 01-31-2007, 08:31 PM   #1
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Description:TWA Lockheed L-1049G, made of metal
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Information:At TWA’s instigation, Lockheed developed the L-049 already in 1939, as well as the extended “Super Constellation”, which was launched by TWA in 1951. Solely because of its exterior, the “Super Connie” became the epitome of aviation of the “Golden Fifties”. TWA was the largest “Super Conny” operator by far. The original of this mold novelty is the further improved L-1049G model with an extended radar nose and long distance tiptanks. It was commissioned in 1955 as N6937C by TWA, and this airplane still flies today, being the only example able to do so in the USA. The club “Save A Connie” was responsible for its careful restoration.
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Old 01-31-2007, 11:13 PM   #2
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I really like this one!

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This looks too much like the SAC Connie flying around which I believe is a Super H.

Besides the original Connies had a natural metal belly, wings (except for some grey in the usual places) and engines.

These can be fixed to make it a 1950's Connie.

Go for it Herpa.

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Quite nice except for the wing/fuselage join...looks a little ugly

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37 charlie was never originally a TWA ship. It was the last Connie of any kind to be sold "new" by Lockheed on 17th Sept 1959. It was delivered as 1049H to SLICK AIRWAYS. Even the later 1649 starliners were all delivered out of the factory to the airlines by Feb 1958. So 37 charlie is one of the longest surviving yet the youngest super connie that exists. Sounds like a contradiction, but its true. If it IS grey instead of silver then it is really a model of the SAC super connie. Which allthough is a 1049H carries Super G logo. TWA had a few super H's but they never carried super type logo at all.
Sounds like this isn't really a model of an operational TWA Super connie at all - shame.

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Old 05-24-2007, 08:24 AM   #7
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Anyone know what happened to this?

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Herpa has been having some factory issues which just until now have gotten resolved so many models have been sitting in a holding pattern until it got sorted out.
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So somewhere Mr JB, there is a hoooge pile of 1049's and Dc8's.... ..'heaven'....
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Herpa has been having some factory issues which just until now have gotten resolved so many models have been sitting in a holding pattern until it got sorted out.
This model was announced together with the Icelandair B757-200(WL) model - Wings 2007 03/04. So, does it mean that the FI model will be delayed too? Will the factory issue also affect the Wings 2007 05/06 releases?
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And they have not yet been produced, then?

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doug at justplanefun.com told me theyve been delayed to a 6/1 release. herpas known to delay things time and time again.
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Herpa HAS been known to delay things from time to time. I have had their Delta DC 8-51 on order for some time...
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This is cool that they're making some more classic propliners in 1/200. It's difficult to find those Western Models that I want from years past. Westerns are really expensive and I think they're decaled as opposed to being tampo-printed like this TWA Connie. Now if we could just get a DC-7 in 1/200!
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doug at justplanefun.com told me theyve been delayed to a 6/1 release.
Another retailer noted the expected date on 30th June.
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This is cool that they're making some more classic propliners in 1/200. It's difficult to find those Western Models that I want from years past. Westerns are really expensive and I think they're decaled as opposed to being tampo-printed like this TWA Connie. Now if we could just get a DC-7 in 1/200!

Kevin,

Like you I just love classic propliners but I've taken a check on the amount of traffic visiting prop threads compared to jet threads especially current schemes, and boy, are we in a minority or what ?

It will be interesting to see if these figures tally up with the actual sales of prop models. Sounds like we may be a dying breed.

Also decalled models get a lot of bad press on these forums, but take a look at a Western Northwest super connie. Its a complicated scheme and Western handled it well - that's if you got one where the decals were in the right place !

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Product ID:550802
Collection:WINGS
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Brochure:Herpa Wings 2007 / 03-04
Description:TWA Lockheed L-1049G, made of metal
Price in EURO:49,75 EUR *
Stock:Artikel noch nicht lieferbar Item not yet available 31.01.2007
Information:At TWA’s instigation, Lockheed developed the L-049 already in 1939, as well as the extended “Super Constellation”, which was launched by TWA in 1951. Solely because of its exterior, the “Super Connie” became the epitome of aviation of the “Golden Fifties”. TWA was the largest “Super Conny” operator by far. The original of this mold novelty is the further improved L-1049G model with an extended radar nose and long distance tiptanks. It was commissioned in 1955 as N6937C by TWA, and this airplane still flies today, being the only example able to do so in the USA. The club “Save A Connie” was responsible for its careful restoration.
This is clearly a piece of crap, like their 1:400, most likely for bulk sales to the Save A Connie foundation. It was bad enough that the 1:400 was painted gray in the areas that should be bare metal but it is inexcusable that they would do this in 1:200.
Herpa made quality models at one time but, sadly, their releases are increasingly fancy toys.

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i wouldnt make bold statements like that. youll get much more flak coming right back your way. unless that is what you want

it IS modeled after N6937C so i think herpa made it well.
your war is with Save a Connie not herpa
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Wink She's now available...

Try to post some comments when I'll hold her in my hands

(seems that HERPA has done some good improvments comparing to their first pic on their homepage)

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Geez... hell fire.. I am going to go bankrupt at this rate....

First Corgi I ever bought.... then when I started on the 1/200's had to have the Western one... and now this...
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(seems that HERPA has done some good improvments comparing to their first pic on their homepage)
Maybe so but the cabin window configuration is all wrong on the port side! It depicts the layout for N6937C the SAC 1049H. Check the thumbnails below for a comparison on how a TWA super G should look. Sorry Herpa, you need 3 more windows.....and please, do not show those huge cargo doors which were only fitted to the "H's".

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37 charlie showing the window layout more clearly. Unfortunately the large cargo doors don't appear very well either. Model manufacturers seem to over emphasise doors with very clear black outlines. In fact, it seems, they can be almost invisible on the real thing.

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uh are we still talking about the incorrectness of this model to the real superG? or are we talking about how bad of a representation it is to N6937C.

still not quite getting why you guys are comparing it to the non-save-a-connie connie because obviously herpa didnt model it after the real superG but after save a connie's version.
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uh are we still talking about the incorrectness of this model to the real superG? or are we talking about how bad of a representation it is to N6937C.

still not quite getting why you guys are comparing it to the non-save-a-connie connie because obviously herpa didnt model it after the real superG but after save a connie's version.
Well, if you look at Herpa's official blurb description of this model at the start of this thread it says "it (this super G) was commission in 1955 as N6937C by TWA. That's twaddle. It was never commissioned by TWA, its not even a cancelled TWA order.

I think that what we want is for Herpa to say what it is that they are really offering. Is it a preserved Super H that looks a bit like a "G". Or do they think they're making a super G ? If they market a classic Super G with wrong windows plus freight doors, its not helpful and they're inviting some egg on their face.

And isn't it better to offer constructive comments on accuracy before they manufacture it rather than after ? It is possible that they just don't know what the situation is, if so, why not try to help them get it right ?

For the record I have no problem with them making a model of the SAC airplane, so long as that's what they call it.
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ah i see. so the discrepancy is between the description and what its modeled after.
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ah i see. so the discrepancy is between the description and what its modeled after.
Right on ! Furthermore the subtle changes in Super connie designations are hard enough to follow without a model manufacturer showing us red herrings. If they model the SAC connie well and show freight doors of the super H, but market it as a super G, many people will think this is correct and Herpa will have re-written history at stroke.

For the sake of 2 extra tampo pad and operation, they could have produced a SAC Super H (pretending to be a G) and a proper Super G. Who knows, they may have sold 1 of each to many collectors.

Its a myth, by the way, that all Super G's had tip tanks and long noses. It depended on the airline and its spec. Some G's had both, some only tanks, some only long noses and some with neither. Confusing or what ?!!

And I've just realised that the cabin windows at the rear of the fuselage and the passenger door will be incorrect as well. On a G the passenger door is nearer to the wing root and there are 3 cabin windows extending back towards the tail end.

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New arrrival today via LGW 26L
Despite comments, Nice little model. Although does seem a little odd that there are Licensing details acknowledging TWA/Lockheed/American Airlines. yet no comment anywhere regarding "Save-A-Connie".











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Blast and poo....!

Thats more money I have to spend this month.. these Connies are like naughty women..

Nice photos...... lovely sheen....
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mmm, that's sexy. dunno if i should get KLM or Air France or TWA. tough decision to make...
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ok I'm just picky. N6937C does have white horizontal tail surfaces, but......no other TWA connie ever did. And that white nose gear. Ugh. Just don't go thinking you've got an accurate working TWA super G model here.

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This is a very beautiful model, it just isn't an accurate model of a TWA "Super G". I would love to see a model of an Eastern Super G "Golden Falcon", which I flew from KSDF to KEWR. The Falcon insignia on the nose was in gold, now red as has been done on many 1/400 scale models. The radar nose was black. It was one of the most striking color schemes I have ever seen.
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Jason, you should get an Air France, since you don't have any air france.
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This is a very beautiful model, it just isn't an accurate model of a TWA "Super G". I would love to see a model of an Eastern Super G "Golden Falcon", which I flew from KSDF to KEWR. The Falcon insignia on the nose was in gold, now red as has been done on many 1/400 scale models. The radar nose was black. It was one of the most striking color schemes I have ever seen.
Was that this scheme or the red scheme you flew on ?

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THAT is the scheme! It made a statement.
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