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Old 06-20-2006, 11:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Inflight 200 DC9 landing gear is too short

Hopefully, when Inflight releases the new and improved DC9, the landing gear will be fixed. The current mould sits too low.
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Old 06-21-2006, 01:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi Yes it has been noted already about the gear and the front wheel as well! This ALL being taken care of.
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Kind of like the engines and stuff on the UAL 744 were ALL taken care of.
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Old 06-21-2006, 02:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If you guys only knew half the problems which the manufacturers have with factories here in China you would ask WHY? I am confident I am talking for ALL the manufacturers of aircraft models.

I had a very interesting conversation with another manufacturer last month, and he was getting very upset about his models not being correct at the sample stage and sometimes the finished product. He asked a very intersting question which was 'Why can the Chinese work so well on car models and not so good on aircraft?' Having now lived here in China for a couple of months and trying to get use to their ways of working, I think we might have come up with the answer. With a car model, all the factory worker has to do is to go outside and see them flash past on the road and they get some sort of concept on what they are trying to achive and an idea of what they look like. With an aircraft we in the western world take it for granted about them and most of the time if we hear a plane and do not take to much notice of it, this is very different here in China, I would guess at least 80% of the factory workers have not seen an aircraft therefore not having any idea or concept about them, this is all done from reference books and the internet, and to be honest with you I think ALL the manufacturers do a very good job.

Life here in China is so very different than the rest of the world, and since I have been here I for one can you guys you are very lucky living where you do, here in China the lifestyle is very simple but the people are very happy with what they do and they are also a very proud country.
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If you guys only knew half the problems which the manufacturers have with factories here in China you would ask WHY? I am confident I am talking for ALL the manufacturers of aircraft models.

I had a very interesting conversation with another manufacturer last month, and he was getting very upset about his models not being correct at the sample stage and sometimes the finished product. He asked a very intersting question which was 'Why can the Chinese work so well on car models and not so good on aircraft?' Having now lived here in China for a couple of months and trying to get use to their ways of working, I think we might have come up with the answer. With a car model, all the factory worker has to do is to go outside and see them flash past on the road and they get some sort of concept on what they are trying to achive and an idea of what they look like. With an aircraft we in the western world take it for granted about them and most of the time if we hear a plane and do not take to much notice of it, this is very different here in China, I would guess at least 80% of the factory workers have not seen an aircraft therefore not having any idea or concept about them, this is all done from reference books and the internet, and to be honest with you I think ALL the manufacturers do a very good job.

Life here in China is so very different than the rest of the world, and since I have been here I for one can you guys you are very lucky living where you do, here in China the lifestyle is very simple but the people are very happy with what they do and they are also a very proud country.

Simple solution: move the factory to an airport this way the workers can see an aircraft

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Old 06-22-2006, 02:03 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Somehow I don't think simply "seeing" an airplane or two every now and then, or even on a daily basis, is going to make a difference when it comes to getting minute (but important) details correct on a model, such as the right engines or the correct wing to fuselage root.

These factory workers are obviously not aviation enthusiasts if they have never seen a plane, so seeing one off in the distance isn't going to help one bit. They won't even know what kind of plane they are looking at...

I'm no car expert, so driving around, casually observing traffic isn't going to help me build a model of one. Even if I was looking at a certain characteristic of a certain type of car, I would still need good, detailed, photo references.

Having an "idea or concept" about a plane isn't what the workers need. They've got the concept down, it's attention to detail that they lack.

And also, cars are a lot less complicated that planes.
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I've been working for an Asian manufacturing company and I can confirm Mike's stance, that a regular view or contact with original airplanes is not helpfull. Even the contrary: Especially the fact, that they do not have the original plane in mind, requests to work strongly oriented to the drawings by keeping scale and details.
If you want to make a good copy of a drawing or a famous picture, just turn the original around and copy it just by following the lines and the shapes, without a reference to the meaning of the shapes. You'll see, it will get better than if you copy it in the original positioning.

No, in fact we have the same problems with such basic mistakes in the manufacturing lines, and the reasons are always the same:
1) Someone missed to explain them the nature of the mistake as well as the countermeasure UNDERSTANDABLE for them
2) In case above (1) was completed successfully, the mistake was not corrected due to excessive COSTS required to eliminate the mistake in this later stage (manufacturing started already) of the project.

No other reasons known so far.
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