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Old 11-24-2021, 08:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Angry Gj200 MD-11 VARIG... Why ???

Well, this one was long awaited and could have been a perfect model, if…

If not again a yellowing white paint of the polished fuselage happened again

This is - for me - so frustrating and I am really deeply disappointed

Nevertheless I will keep the model, as these VARIG MD-11s were always parked right in front of my office window when I start to work here and also because that bird took me on my first flight to Brazil with my later wife, who worked for VARIG at that time
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It's not that bad...I like it!

It could be lighting too as you notice in your last pic from tail up to back of back door its appearance is white because light in room not hitting the model. Forward on in the pic the light in the room seems to cause the slight off white appearance.

It will grow on you. As a side, I got to fly on the a Varig DC-10 from Brasilia to JFK and a Varig 727-100 from Rio to Brasilia back in the early 1980's.

Thanks for posting the pics and happy collecting!
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It’s always very difficult to catch this colour difference (fuselage to vertical fin), but if you will see the model personally you will notice it.

Here two more pics which might show it a little bit better…
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Old 11-24-2021, 02:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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A suggestion if your fuselage is supposed to be true white and you suspect it is not: take a photo of it next to something that is known to be white, like holding a blank sheet of paper against the fuselage. If the fuselage is yellowing, I think it would be apparent in comparison to the paper, regardless of the lighting (well, mostly).

It is conceptually similar to what professional photographers do to calibrate white balance prior to a photoshoot.
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Ive had Herpa Premium 747's that look slightly yellowed in one room and walk into another and magically turn white. Lighting will throw a model off..
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Good idea!

That’s why all my LH Premiums are under the glass cabinets on the floor in the shadow…

PS: I am not kidding… that’s the truth!
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Old 11-24-2021, 04:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Like others have said, white can look different in different lighting. I know about the vertical stab difference that has been an issue on some past releases, but not what I was referring to in your original pics (Not vertical stab vs fuselage). All that matters though is you are not completely happy upon just receiving this release and expecting something a little different. With time though, and when mixed in with others on display, maybe you will come to love it!

Like you said, and agree, photos don't always depict the true color like if the object was seen in person.
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Old 11-24-2021, 04:39 PM   #8 (permalink)
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take a look at this . same model in two different lights. one with all the lights on and with yellow lights off and only the white lights on

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I thought this has something to do with white paint being applied over clear coat on polished models. When the white paint is applied over the clear coat it turns a bit yellow vs what's on the vertical stab & any other areas painted white (which are not clear coated underneath). I hope I'm conveying my thoughts properly. I remember years ago, a Delta 747 that had a polished belly & the white fuselage was more yellow than the vertical stab. This was the explanation given at the time.

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Good idea!

That’s why all my LH Premiums are under the glass cabinets on the floor in the shadow…

PS: I am not kidding… that’s the truth!
Those on the bottom look like critters lurking in the dark!!

I have not opened the box of the Modell Edition LH B737-300 you sent me a while back. It's been a year or two now, and it was pure white then. I'm afraid to open it.

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Keep your fingers crossed, as it’s a unsolved mystery why some HERPA PREMIUM Models - especially from the LH edition- turn yellow and some not.

But KLM4me is right !

My problem is the difference of white between the fuselage part (on the polished ground) and the vertical fin part (which is not polished).

So we have two different “white” colours on one model which should not have been there!

If both parts would have the same “white style”, this won’t be a point for me.

But with these two white colours I have a problem…
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there is a special method to store them. i call it vnangli way. you can reach out to him and find out
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I think a couple of my Gemini 200, Pan Am 747-SP's are like this. Tail is more white.
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G'day Marten,


I think the tails are made of plastic and the fuselage is diecast, hence the colours don't match too well. Ironically, as Kitty Hawk David mentioned it happens on a few models. I still think you have got yourself a beautiful model and congratulations for getting it. I love it
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Keep your fingers crossed, as it’s a unsolved mystery why some HERPA PREMIUM Models - especially from the LH edition- turn yellow and some not.

But KLM4me is right !

My problem is the difference of white between the fuselage part (on the polished ground) and the vertical fin part (which is not polished).

So we have two different “white” colours on one model which should not have been there!

If both parts would have the same “white style”, this won’t be a point for me.

But with these two white colours I have a problem…
Problem is obvious and, unfortunately, “arguments” are weak. May be one or the other folk here would have less problems accepting and naming the shortcoming on the Varig MD-11’s different tones of white colour on fuselage vs. tail if it wasn’t a Gemini model.

Lighting… ha!
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Problem is obvious and, unfortunately, “arguments” are weak. May be one or the other folk here would have less problems accepting and naming the shortcoming on the Varig MD-11’s different tones of white colour on fuselage vs. tail if it wasn’t a Gemini model.

Lighting… ha!
your right lighting has no affect on a 40 year collection of Barbie Dolls and Beanie Babies..
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your right lighting has no affect on a 40 year collection of Barbie Dolls and Beanie Babies..
Still bad on jokin‘ and kiddin‘, CrownBoy.

In essence, what you’re trying to tell all of us here is that metal parts painted in exactly the same color tone do appear differently for no other reason than lighting. The actual and correct answer is: NO, they don’t… unless the material underneath the (white) colour or the colour itself causes such differences. But, yeah, Gemini is still the very best and free of defects and other shortcomings.

Now, get back to your Barbie dolls, mate.
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