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Old 09-23-2021, 08:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm unfamiliar with this brand but I've found a model I'm interested in. Are they any good?
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Often times the best thing to do is look at other posts of the same type of airframe. Example, if your Phoenix model is a 737, it might be best to look for other posts here at DAC about a Phoenix 737. Find out if they share that mould with another manufacturer like Gemini Jets or Inflight. Like most collectors know, Gemini makes a superior 737 (except a certain SWA 737 in the new livery). If Gemini shares the mould with Phoenix, chances are, mouldwise, its gonna be good. Look at retailers who have good pictures of their products, hence look at their Phoenix 737's.

I can't speak for color and markings accuracies about Phoenix, so best to look for pictures of the model and their previous models of versus pictures of the real bird.

No model is perfect so you will just have to weigh in the pros and cons. Buy it if you like it not because collector A praised it or not buy it because collector F said the mould is off to their standards. Also look at it collectively. That will help weigh in the pros and cons and tell you whether that Phoenix model is a go or no-go.

On a personal note, I have an old Phoenix US Airways 737-400. Not on par with a Gemini jets, but has a good mould shape, color and markings are pretty accurate, and price point is very good at the time i bought it, so i went for it, and to this day it holds a permanent spot in my collection.
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Old 09-23-2021, 10:56 AM   #3 (permalink)
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As Seven-Eight-Seven states, it depends on the airframe. The only Phoenix model I've in my collection is a Virgin 787-9. I only bought it because it's a model of a registration number of an aircraft I've actually flown on. The Phoenix 787-9 has fixed gear and the colours are inaccurate for Virgin. (No pearlescent white fuselage.) It also sits differently compared to G200 but I'm not so nitpicky about that.
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Phoenix is not very active in 1:200, particularly lately, but all the ones I've had in hand are pretty good models. I'd say their printing is probably the least detailed of any of the 1:200 manufacturers, but I've never noticed any major problems with mould shape (except perhaps the A350 - the nose is pretty poor on that one IMO).

I too have both of the US Airways 737-400's (old and new livery) and like them quite well. I've had one of their 727-100's before as well and it's nice.
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phoenix's a380 mould i would say is on par with gemini's (both have their pwn pros and cons)
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Old 09-25-2021, 07:51 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for the input! I went ahead and bought the USAir 737-400. While I'm picky about some things, I get great enjoyment from finding models in this scale that represent aircraft that I actually worked on during my career. I don't necessarily need the exact tail number as much as the model and livery, although I admit that with my Atlas passenger 747, it is kinda cool knowing that I worked that very bird.
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Old 09-25-2021, 10:07 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I hope you post piccies when you receive it. I owned quite a few Phoenix 737s back in the day.
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KLM4me: The model arrived and when I looked at it closely I discovered that most of the clear-coating had peeled off. This resulted in some pretty severe "crazing?" in addition to the typical tarnishing, plus there was a visible line where the coating starts again that I thought at first was a scratch. I wrote the seller and we were able to agree on a pretty significant discount instead of a flat out return. It actually looks okay in the case. Only upon close inspection or in bright light would most people see anything wrong with it. While I think most of you guys would be a quick, definite, "hell no!," I immediately took a liking to her. I considered trying to clean her up a little, but then I thought I'd probably just mess her up more than she already is so it seems best to leave her alone, unless someone has a sure fire way to safely perk her up. I still like the model overall and would not hesitate to purchase another Phoenix. In fact, if I can find another one like it but in better shape, I'll buy that as well. It's always good to have a back-up plane in the fleet, no? Here are some pics. She ain't the prettiest girl at the dance but I have a soft spot for the old girl and honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if some of our -400's weren't in similarly bad condition before receiving the US Airways livery. I also like the way that, much like a slightly-past-her-prime lady of the evening (or me), she masterfully uses the dimly lit corners of the room to soften the ravages of time and conceal the indelible scars that mistreatment and misadventures have left behind.
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Yes some of the older polished aluminum releases like this and older Gemini American MD-80's were prone to this sort of tarnishing it seems. And I hope I didn't mislead you when I said I had both the old and new liveries - I have the 'Darth Vader' and America West merger livery versions - I didn't realize Phoenix also released this older livery.
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Model looks great and realistic with the crazing! Display it with others, enjoy it, and don't look back!

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I have two Phoenix models. The Turkish Airlines 777 San Francisco to Istanbul and the ANA 787-9. I do find the 777 slightly off compared to the Geminis that I have. The nose seems different. Also the wings seem to sweep slightly upwards
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