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Old 09-01-2021, 08:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Airplanes that is….This one is rare to see in the U.S. however I was lucky to catch it taking off at San Bernardino California last year.. It was running a service between there and Houston, Miami and the Caribbean.. Ukraine based Cavok Air AN12B by KUM models
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Nothing but the best! "I don't know why they call this stuff hamburger helper. It does just fine by itself, huh? I like it better than tuna helper myself, don't you, Clark?"
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I like that one Russ.
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I like that one Russ.
I knew you would...but not Greta.
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Real tomato ketchup Eddie?
Nothing but the best! "I don't know why they call this stuff hamburger helper. It does just fine by itself, huh? I like it better than tuna helper myself, don't you, Clark?"
"you're the gourmet around here, Ed!"
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https://youtu.be/P7XReVEcn0M
I'm fortunate enough to have seen a few An12's, this video was my first sighting of one.
You can hear a mate saying 'oh the good old days' in the back ground.
Oh, and nice model too.
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Old 09-02-2021, 03:54 AM   #5 (permalink)
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where can i buy this?
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Interesting model I remember seeing one of these at Schiphol International back in 1997 the tail gunner with 2x 12.75mm tail guns was still in place, Aeroflot was the operator afaik.
Ilyushin Il-76's also were armed with the similar tail gunner config.

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Nothing but the best! "I don't know why they call this stuff hamburger helper. It does just fine by itself, huh? I like it better than tuna helper myself, don't you, Clark?"
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A bit off topic but if I remember well the early KC 135 with PW J 57 engines were heavy smokers.

A model of this aircraft with USAF and French Air Force markings would be nice.
It would nicely complement the model equipped with CFM 56.
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Very nice Russ. We often see these Cavok machines over the wilds of East Anglia. They are usually operating night flights to EMA. Your can hear them coming well before they’re overhead! Another frequent visitor are the An12s operated by an outfit called Ruby Star Airlines. They have the most cheerful captain I’ve ever heard on the scanner!

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A bit off topic but if I remember well the early KC 135 with PW J 57 engines were heavy smokers.

A model of this aircraft with USAF and French Air Force markings would be nice.
It would nicely complement the model equipped with CFM 56.
Gemini ?

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I was thinking of the CV-880 and CV-990 immediately, although almost every type of that era was a rather heavy smoker…
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I knew you would...but not Greta.
Ah. The petulant brat.
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So herpa also make AN12 in 1/200, which one should i get?

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I believe it is exact the same modul (look also at the stand).

BTW just this beauty passed my home… nice to hear and nice to see it fly into the sunset sky
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I LOVE smokers, the flying ones at least.
The An-12 I usually only hear flying overhead on their Ghardaja-Leipzig service but have many nice memories on my time working on our "Diesel". What a sight it was to have around 30 J79 painting their traces into the sky on a calm day.

Still I think nothing beats the sight and sound of of a classic MITO involving water injected J57 on B-52/KC-135:
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Nice model of the Cavok, but I wonder if I'll ever see an An-12 in 1/400.
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Still I think nothing beats the sight and sound of of a classic MITO involving water injected J57 on B-52/KC-135:
https://youtu.be/LU6DoQOd6z0
That video was SMOKING HOT...thank you for sharing, love it!!
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Awesome.... wish someone would make a 1:400 diecast AN-12 mould !
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I knew you would...but not Greta.

Greta is wasting way more planet's resources than that hard working Antonov. She is snuggled comfortably in her cozy home with heaters or AC on with a full fridge and wasting a lot of electricity while she uploads her fairytales on the internet... It's really easy to educate about the war while you're safe, well fed and rested I always say...
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Greta is wasting way more planet's resources than that hard working Antonov. She is snuggled comfortably in her cozy home with heaters or AC on with a full fridge and wasting a lot of electricity while she uploads her fairytales on the internet... It's really easy to educate about the war while you're safe, well fed and rested I always say...
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I LOVE smokers, the flying ones at least.
The An-12 I usually only hear flying overhead on their Ghardaja-Leipzig service but have many nice memories on my time working on our "Diesel". What a sight it was to have around 30 J79 painting their traces into the sky on a calm day.

Still I think nothing beats the sight and sound of of a classic MITO involving water injected J57 on B-52/KC-135:
https://youtu.be/LU6DoQOd6z0


Nice model of the Cavok, but I wonder if I'll ever see an An-12 in 1/400.
Many thanks for the video.
I am impressed by the very short time between successive take offs.
The wake turbulence is something that cannot be ignored.
It would have been more comfortable for the KC 135 to take off first ...

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Many thanks for the video.
I am impressed by the very short time between successive take offs.
The wake turbulence is something that cannot be ignored.
It would have been more comfortable for the KC 135 to take off first ...

Jean Pierre.
Turbulence indeed was the major problem. You can see how they tried to get a separation as soon as they left ground to get out of the previous' generated vortices.

The above is from a rather late MITO when fuel got cleaner already.
Here's that legendary scene from the movie Gathering of Eagles. Early 1960s MITO, up close.
https://youtu.be/Cq6Hpxyrhyo
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Again many thanks, very impressive.

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