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Old 08-20-2021, 11:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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PIA Airbus A300 (AP-BAZ) - Hogan Wings


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Serial number : 99
Type : Airbus A300B4-203
First flight date (airframe) : 22 Februari 1980
Delivery date (PIA) : 3 April 1980
Airline : Pakistan International Airlines
Registration : AP-BAZ
Engines : 2 x General Electric CF6-50C2
Current status : Scrapped


Airframe history (d/m/y)


22/02/1980 : First flight
03/04/1980 : Delivered to PIA
19/04/2004 : Withdrawn from use, stored at Karachi
../02/2006 : Scrapped at Karachi



History


The 80s where important for PIA. The decade began with the opening of a cargo handling centre at Karachi airport, duty-free shops, the first C and D safety checks on its entire fleet, as well as the introduction of the airline's first Airbus A300B4-200 aircraft. A total of 11 A300s served PIA, the first being introduced in 1980, and the last retired in 2005. AP-BAZ was (after AP-BAX and AP-BAY) the third of the three delivered in 1980.

In December 1977, PIA placed its first order from France-based aircraft manufacturer Airbus Industries. The Airbus 300 was not what the airline really needed at the time. In response to a surge in traffic to the Middle East, executives were looking to buy Boeing's much larger 747 jumbo jet. It was already using two jumbos on lease. And now Boeing was working on building a short range version specifically for PIA. At the time, director corporate planning Syed Ajaz Ali said in an interview that the Gulf market was not frequency sensitive and there was already enough traffic to fill a 450-seat 747, which meant passengers were okay with waiting for flight dates. "If A300 is operated on these routes, frequency would become unacceptably high," claimed Ali. Once again, it was national priority that would take preference. Around the same time when the A300 order was placed, Pakistan was trying to secure nuclear power reactors from France in a last ditch try. Just eight months later, France announced it wouldn’t sell nuclear reactors to Islamabad. The A300 deal was in fact a failed attempt to appease the French.

The model discussed in this thread comes with the A300's initial livery of green and gold created by London design consultants Negus and Negus and introduced back in april 1976. This livery made good use of the national colors of green and white, enhanced by a gold cabin window line above a broad peacock green band extending the length of the fuselage. It was also for the first time the stylized Urdu script PIA initials were introduced. Pakistan International titles in green alongside these stylized Urdu script PIA initials in gold, were displayed on the upper forward fuselage. White PIA initials highlighted the all green tail fin. Later on, in the 90s, AP-BAZ served in the "PIA 90s look", also designed by Negus and Negus. In 1997, AP-BAZ was named "City of Rawalpindi" to celebrate Pakistan's 50 years of independence.

On 18 march 1991 at 8:50 am AP-BAZ landed at Islamabad Airport in heavy rain, being unable to stop on the runway and entered the overrun area where she was hitting various objects. The engine number two was completely destroyed and the starboard side wing also suffered some damage. Six tyres of the main landing gear were also completely burst and deflated. Fortunately, everyone on board was unharmed, despite the extensive damage.


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Below : 1991 : extensive damage to the engine and landing gear after a landing in heavy rain.






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Brand : Hogan Wings
Year : 2021
Scale : 1/200
Serial nr : HG11663
Material : Diecast plastic, snap-fit
Dimensions : Approx W 22.4 x L 26.7 x H 8.4 cm
Comes with : Antennas, (plastic) stand, gear set with rolling rubber tires


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Below : With this model, Hogan proves once again that very good quality can be delivered for a relatively interesting price.
Well-packaged, solidly built, cleanly-painted, antennas, and with optional landing gear. Also a plastic stand is included, although I always buy a wooden/metal stand with every Hogan model.






Below : I did not have much time, and was not able to take some picture of the model on its stand and in my photo studio. I will add them in this thread later on.
However, for the first time, I experimented with the model "on ground" using as background the very interesting ground plates from friend and forum member Jan Polet.














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Nice! I am not sure I would ever go on a PIA aircraft in real life though…
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This model is fantastically good, equal or superior to some diecast products.

Other liveries would be welcome;

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Beautiful model and mold indeed. Looks very nice on Jan's ground plates.
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This model is fantastically good, equal or superior to some diecast products.

Other liveries would be welcome;

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Another example of Hogan‘s excellent tooling which is and has always been superior to any other mass production die-cast scale model manufacturer - either metal or plastic.

The A300 is open of their ‘newer’ and less utilized moulds. They could indeed do so many airlines and liveries which would be hot sellers. The IB and AF are simply great, the PIA also is stunning.
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I have three A300B4's of Hogan Wings and it is an outstanding mould. I love the history as usual Deephalo and your nice borrowed ground plate add a nice touch. Cant wait to see more of that ground foil.
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Another example of Hogan‘s excellent tooling which is and has always been superior to any other mass production die-cast scale model manufacturer - either metal or plastic.
Absolutely, it blows away even the coveted Herpa premiums...your so right...

Also Mr expert what is a diecast plastic model anyway?

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what is a diecast plastic model anyway?
This is interesting. The term "Die cast" is sometimes used to refer to injection molding, although indeed, die cast normally is considered being the process of pouring molten metal into a specific mold. But even Wikipedia causes some confusion here : on their page "Die casting", they do speak of a "metal casting process", and on the "Die-cast toy" page, you can read "a toy or a collectible model produced by using the die casting method of putting molten lead, zinc alloy or plastic in a mould to produce a particular shape". So in everyday life, I think this term can be taken rather widely.

Anyways, both processes have similarities, and even regarding their basic working principles, because both make use of a mold in which the material is injected. There are many other ways of "forcing" metals or plastics in a particular form, but I do not think they are applied in the scale model industry.

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Absolutely, it blows away even the coveted Herpa premiums...your so right...

Also Mr expert what is a diecast plastic model anyway?

die-cast
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Now that you have been so kind to me and as polite as a moderator should be… here’s something the expert want to tell you: die-cast production technique is not limited to zinc or alloy, it is a production method describing the way a material is being processed and formed (and, yes, plastic models are also made by using die-cast). Second, the phrase „mass production“ was of course meant to make a difference between what we can order worldwide today and what has been done by Herpa with the LME and the HPE. Thanks for disregarding the obvious here.

Being involved in the business and even being a brother to a brand owner does not necessarily mean to have extensive knowledge about the business and production techniques, of course. So, that one is excused. The other thing is obviously pure prejudice and impolite behavior. So be it then.
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Another example of Hogan‘s excellent tooling which is and has always been superior to any other mass production die-cast scale model manufacturer - either metal or plastic.
I apologize, you are correct Hogan tooling blows everything ever done by anyone else out of the water....much more superior...thats why they are the leader....

QUOTE...Being involved in the business and even being a brother to a brand owner does not necessarily mean to have extensive knowledge about the business and production techniques, of course. So, that one is excused. The other thing is obviously pure prejudice and impolite behavior. So be it then. End Quote...

True that is no secret, but my family is also the largest worldwide distributor of Hogan models too...DARON...

die cast= metal
injection mould=plastic

We wait for your next expert opinion...not sure what youve been collecting for the last 40 years?
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by the way, that A300 is a very nice model. I own several Hogan A300's but the PIA does take the cake as the nicest...thanks for sharing interesting history too.
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I apologize, you are correct Hogan tooling blows everything ever done by anyone else out of the water....much more superior...thats why they are the leader....

QUOTE...Being involved in the business and even being a brother to a brand owner does not necessarily mean to have extensive knowledge about the business and production techniques, of course. So, that one is excused. The other thing is obviously pure prejudice and impolite behavior. So be it then. End Quote...

True that is no secret, but my family is also the largest worldwide distributor of Hogan models too...DARON...

die cast= metal
injection mould=plastic

We wait for your next expert opinion...not sure what youve been collecting for the last 40 years?
Apology… but then again… not really. Opportunity squandered.

And, still: die-cast = injection under high pressure into a mould … for either metal or plastic. There’s no difference.

Luckily, I don’t need to have to prove any “expertise” here. Have a nice one.
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Apology… but then again… not really. Opportunity squandered.

And, still: die-cast = injection under high pressure into a mould … for either metal or plastic. There’s no difference.

Luckily, I don’t need to have to prove any “expertise” here. Have a nice one.
But I'd be interested in this expertise too. Die-casting as I learned it is using metal, injection moulding not. Same destinction we have in German. Druckguss vs. Spritzguss.
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It is always a real treat to read the history behind every aircraft and the airline written by you. Well done Deephalo! Beautiful model and nice pictures!

Thank you for sharing!
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Concerning the Hogan mould and out of interest: would you have a side on shot of this model?
The wing is that of a -600, would be interesting to see whether the fuselage is too, or if this is a real classic fuselage.
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...would you have a side on shot of this model?
Would this photo be usefull Alex? She is a little overexposed...

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...I love the history as usual Deephalo and your nice borrowed ground plate add a nice touch. Cant wait to see more of that ground foil.
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It is always a real treat to read the history behind every aircraft and the airline written by you. Well done Deephalo...
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...thanks for sharing interesting history too.
Thanks everyone for these kind words !

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A300 is one of hogan's very best moulds! I have both the B4 without the wingtip fences (Australian Airlines) and the R600 with the wingtip fences (china airlines) and they are both great!
Everyone who esp wants an A300 should definitely get both

Did i already also say they come with removable gears?

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Nice! I am not sure I would ever go on a PIA aircraft in real life though…
I must admit that in recent years they are unfortunately not the airline that gives you the most secure feeling.
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Did i already also say they come with removable gears?
Well .... you just did !

Thx Wildpig, I love this enthusiasm.

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But I'd be interested in this expertise too. Die-casting as I learned it is using metal, injection moulding not. Same destinction we have in German. Druckguss vs. Spritzguss.
Alex,

First of all, I have never said I was an expert. This ‘title’ was ‘granted’ to me by CrownVic with his obvious note of irony (or sarcasm). All I know is what you and many others know: the term ‘die-cast’ is not limited to production methods for metal but also goes for plastic. What you describe as ‘Druckguss’ vs. ‘Spritzguss’ is a definition of older industry terms, I think. Even then, ‘Spritzguss’ (originally developed for precision plastic moulding) is used for specific alloys today as well. This has been discussed here with the participation of real experts (at least, more experts than me) before.

However, and of course, we can dance around wordings and technical terms on and on, but in the end it was about me acknowledging Hogan’s excellent tooling quality and CrownVic’a ironic (or simply impolite) response. Let’s bury this branch of this thread and enjoy the beauty of the PiA A300 instead.
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Another example of Hogan‘s excellent tooling which is and has always been superior to any other mass production die-cast scale model manufacturer - either metal or plastic.
You know, you may be right....I just compared my diecast plastic Hogan American 757 from 15 years ago to the newest diecast metal Inflight American 757 and you are correct, the Hogan mould is superior to the Inflight. The details on the Hogan are incredible...I wont even bother to compare it to the Gemini which is miles behind...
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You know, you may be right....I just compared my diecast plastic Hogan American 757 from 15 years ago to the newest diecast metal Inflight American 757 and you are correct, the Hogan mould is superior to the Inflight. The details on the Hogan are incredible...I wont even bother to compare it to the Gemini which is miles behind...
Oh, c’mon… now we are on level…
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