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Old 07-22-2021, 03:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was visiting my folks and found some of my old Flight Miniatures models when I was a kid. I remember I saw it in SkyMall while on a Continental 737-300 and that's what I got. 1/200 sure has come a long way since. I used to mow the lawn to earn money for Flight Miniatures.





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Recognizable story. I also started with Flight Miniatures and PPC Models, mainly getting them on board aircraft back in the days or at the Schiphol airport model store. Nice you kept some of them. I have upgraded most of these models to the more detailed ones we see today. I wish I kept one or two of them...

The IF United 757 is a beautiful aircraft btw...
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I have flight miniatures also. 717 and 727. beside hogan, they are the only other one with 767-400 in 1/200 i think.
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Ah, memories! I remember buying Air Jet Advance Models from airline gift catalogs, American called theirs “The Great American Gift Catalog.” I can’t remember the name of the USAir gift catalog. From American, I bought the 727-200, DC-10 and 767-200. USAir had the 727-200 in the triple red scheme, first in the white top livery and then the silver polished metal livery. Of course, everything back then was painted and all the models had decals.

When the airlines stopped putting a gift catalog onboard in the mid 1980s, I used to order directly from Air Jet in Miami by phone! They’d send a catalog with your order, and then I’d buy more, ones that I had never seen before.

In the early 1990s, PPC Holland made push-fit 1/200s that looked better than the Air Jet models, it was a big deal to me to get an AA 767-300 with grey engines and a vertical stabilizer, instead of the silver painted jobs out of resin. I also had Wooster models that were PAINTED instead of using decals that yellowed. That was exciting!

Collecting sure has come a long way!
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Ah, memories! I remember buying Air Jet Advance Models from airline gift catalogs, American called theirs “The Great American Gift Catalog.” I can’t remember the name of the USAir gift catalog. From American, I bought the 727-200, DC-10 and 767-200. USAir had the 727-200 in the triple red scheme, first in the white top livery and then the silver polished metal livery. Of course, everything back then was painted and all the models had decals.
I had a lot of Air Jet Advance models. At least 50 of them. They were usually Christmas gifts from my parents.
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At one point, I had most of the Flight Miniatures, Western Pacific, 733's.
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Old 07-22-2021, 10:20 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Great memories indeed!


I got started with a Wooster Northwest 747 and an American MD-11 that I picked up at an airport shop on a family trip to the east coast in 1996. Every time we flew somewhere I picked up another. I still have them!


I remember taking my collection to school once for a presentation on world travel. Easiest presentation I ever did because nobody cared what I had to say they all just wanted me to hurry up and finish so they could see the models
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interestingly the first American 1/250 Wooster MD-11 was printed ‘silver’ plastic including engines and tail. The second re-run had the grey tail fin and grey engines.
The original IMC models were printed also before a phase of horrific decals.
My first model was a 1/250 Landor BA Tristar from Wooster, followed quickly by Aer Lingus 732, United Saul Bass 742 and Britannia 732 in horizon classic stripes. I ended up with almost 700 Wooster/IMC/Flight miniatures- still carefully boxed and catalogued in the attic. Some of the rarities must be worth a ‘bomb’
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Thanks for sharing your story Arctic, and those days when we would earn some cash by doing jobs like cutting lawns. I like that Continental 737! It looks great after all these years! It nice that you have some of your classic collection back at your parents home. Its always a nice visit with good memories. Gosh those were some of the most exciting times!

I remember a long time ago back in 1990, a friend invited me to the Continental Airlines Company Picnic, where I got an old Wooster A300 in the red meatball colors. That model is long gone. I was foolish enough to take it to school for a History project. As a serious collector, my first 1/200 was the Gemini 200 second release of the Southwest 737-700 in the canyon blue colors bought in 2009.
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In the early 1990s, PPC Holland made push-fit 1/200s that looked better than the Air Jet models, it was a big deal to me to get an AA 767-300 with grey engines and a vertical stabilizer, instead of the silver painted jobs out of resin. I also had Wooster models that were PAINTED instead of using decals that yellowed. That was exciting!

Collecting sure has come a long way!
That reminds me of an airliner show about 20 years ago or so. John Dekker had a table and was featuring a KLM B744 PPC model. I asked how much and he told me. He added, and if you can say it, it's free.

Little did he know my father worked for them in the 50s and 60s plus my mother is Dutch. It shocked him when I blurted out Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij. I got my model for free
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Thanks for sharing your story Arctic, and those days when we would earn some cash by doing jobs like cutting lawns. I like that Continental 737! It looks great after all these years! It nice that you have some of your classic collection back at your parents home. Its always a nice visit with good memories. Gosh those were some of the most exciting times!

I remember a long time ago back in 1990, a friend invited me to the Continental Airlines Company Picnic, where I got an old Wooster A300 in the red meatball colors. That model is long gone. I was foolish enough to take it to school for a History project. As a serious collector, my first 1/200 was the Gemini 200 second release of the Southwest 737-700 in the canyon blue colors bought in 2009.
Yeah I had a few Woosters too. I think at one point I had 80 or 90 of them in my room. I met my wife in high school so she saw my room when we got together. I tell her that I’ve always been an open book with her and she knew what she was getting into when she met me whenever she says something about my models now.
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…and the 737s have always been exotics in 1/180 scale!!!
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yes the 1/180 737 never looked right sitting next to a 1/250 747 !
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…and the 737s have always been exotics in 1/180 scale!!!
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yes the 1/180 737 never looked right sitting next to a 1/250 747 !
These weird scales really bother me! I don't know why they can't stick to 1/200!
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These weird scales really bother me! I don't know why they can't stick to 1/200!
You’re obviously much younger than me, mate. Back in those days aircraft scale models were not meant to be merchandise… and they were never aimed at people like us as collectibles. They were pure promotional items, give-aways for the industry, customers, business partners. They had to be in a specific size (let’s say… around 25cm in length)… so the actual aircraft determined the final scale of the model). Luckily, most of the aircraft types were done in 1/200 and 1/250 - the 737 remained one of the few exotics. The Fokker 28 was another, if I recall correctly.
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The L-1011’s were also 1/250 and I think the DC-10s too. But I remember the MD-11’s and 777’s being 1/200.

And I think the 737’s (at least Flight Miniatures) were 1/200 with the exception being the 737-200 at 1/180.
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You’re obviously much younger than me, mate. Back in those days aircraft scale models were not meant to be merchandise… and they were never aimed at people like us as collectibles. They were pure promotional items, give-aways for the industry, customers, business partners. They had to be in a specific size (let’s say… around 25cm in length)… so the actual aircraft determined the final scale of the model). Luckily, most of the aircraft types were done in 1/200 and 1/250 - the 737 remained one of the few exotics. The Fokker 28 was another, if I recall correctly.
skymark is doing the same bs with theirs. I don't like it!
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The L-1011’s were also 1/250 and I think the DC-10s too. But I remember the MD-11’s and 777’s being 1/200.

And I think the 737’s (at least Flight Miniatures) were 1/200 with the exception being the 737-200 at 1/180.
That is correct, arctic - but we are talking early 1980‘s, the MD-11 model by IMC
came in the very early 1990‘s when these models had also turned into collectibles. Manufacturers tried to find a new standard scale but everything antique - from the early 737 versions to the A300, DC-10, L-1011, 747 and others - remained in their original scale (1/250, with the exception of the 737 as stated above).

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skymark is doing the same bs with theirs. I don't like it!
I think most collectors really hated these different scales. At least, I did so.
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depends on the manufacturers. Wooster DC-10’s, MD- 11’s, all 737 models, Tristars, 747, 777’s were 1/250 scale.
All IMC 737/2/3/3/5 were 1/180
It was only the slightly bigger 737-800 that appeared more to be 1/200. Flight Miniatures 737-300 was certainly 1/180.
Interestingly, Flight Miniatures sometimes used the A310 mould as an A300 -just printing a different door config, which looked horrific… I think Eastern was an example.
Wooster towards the end reverse moulded the MD-11 back to a DC-10 (with the screwdriver tail cone) and just snapped off the wing tips from the mould! Premiair and DAS Cargo were examples.
I am sure someone once told me the scale was dictated by the airline duty free service trolley spaces. A 1/200 777-300 is way bigger than a little 737. Although the days of half the kids on the plane on a charter holiday flight buying a model seem long gone.
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depends on the manufacturers. Wooster DC-10’s, MD- 11’s, all 737 models, Tristars, 747, 777’s were 1/250 scale.
All IMC 737/2/3/3/5 were 1/180.
No big deal but I think Wooster’s 737 Classics were 1/180 too.

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Interestingly, Flight Miniatures sometimes used the A310 mould as an A300 -just printing a different door config, which looked horrific… I think Eastern was an example.
Indeed. Those models looked really off but, sometimes, the manufacturers of airport/airline merchandise and give-away items (Wooster/ IMC / Flight Miniatures in the snap-fit market, Schabak in the 1/600 segment) were looking for the ‘cheaper option’ when the original aircraft’s characteristics didn’t differ too much from a sister ship (Schabak has done this all the time, not only selling the long-body L-1011 with modified decals for the much shorter L-1011-500, and the A300 moulds with stretched cabin windows as A310s but also DC-8-70 as -60s, 737-300 as -400, and Fokker 28 as Fokker 70. Granted, it wasn’t as recognizable in their small 1/600 scale as it was in 1/200, particularly in an era when there wasn’t too much of common knowledge about commercial aircraft among the customers around.

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I am sure someone once told me the scale was dictated by the airline duty free service trolley spaces. A 1/200 777-300 is way bigger than a little 737. Although the days of half the kids on the plane on a charter holiday flight buying a model seem long gone.
Airline onboard duty-free and the size of the trolley bins was a factor, yes. All this came up in the late 1970’s when you had two options to get hold of a model: either buy it onboard or get into one of the souvenir shops at the larger airports around.
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No big deal but I think Wooster’s 737 Classics were 1/180 too.
Sorry, you are of course correct, the Wooster 737s shouldn't have been in that list, all their 737’s were 1/180.

I also recall issue with the Wooster enclosed ‘undercarriage wheels’ which caused problems with the age ranges and because of small parts were then removed - same with the subsequent removable engines which pushed the CE marked age range above 12 and ‘This is not a toy’ classification.
Around that time airlines were looking to ‘Long Prosper’ cheaper brands. Britannia Airways went from IMC 1970/80’s to Wooster 1980/90’s to Long Prosper 90’s to PPC and then Premier Portfolio as TUI now.
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Yes that is how it starts. A few Flight Miniatures at low cost, then a few more, then something different from Inflight, Gemini, or JC Wings and that's it! You have a collection! Then you start to specialize, or just continue to spend and collect anything!
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