United Airlines DC-10 "Experimental Ship 4" - DA.C
 

Go Back   DA.C > Ground Control > 1:200 Scale Model Aircraft

Like Tree15Likes
  • 10 Post By deephalo
  • 1 Post By Seven-Eight-Seven
  • 1 Post By Aussiejets
  • 1 Post By DanO6
  • 1 Post By Jetdin
  • 1 Post By jcahea
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Old 06-29-2021, 09:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
Senior Collector
 
deephalo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Kampenhout
Age: 46
Posts: 328
Default United Airlines DC-10 "Experimental Ship 4"

United Airlines DC-10-10 "Experimental Ship 4" (N1801U)

The real airplane


Specifications


Serial number : 46600
Line Number : 4
Type : DC-10-10
First flight date (air frame) : December 23, 1970 (first test flight)
First flight date (United) : June 29, 1971
Delivery date (United) : June 29, 1971 (ceremonial delivery)
Delivery date (United) : May 25, 1972 (contractual delivery)
Engines : 3 x CF6-6K



Airframe History


Reg.........Date d/m/y.....Event.....................Airline

N1801U......18/01/1971.....First official flight
N1801U......25/05/1972.....Delivered.................United Airlines
N1801U......29/06/1998.....Withdrawn from use........United Airlines
N364FE......02/07/1998.....Delivered.................Federal Express
N364FE......18/12/2003.....Damaged beyond repair.....Federal Express (*)


* at Memphis International, after a hard landing that caused the right hand undercarriage to collapse and the plane to veer off the runway while set to fire.


History

On 29 August 1970 the McDonnell Douglas prototype widebody airliner, DC-10-10, N10DC, made its first flight from Long Beach Airport to Edwards Air Force Base, California. During the test program, N10DC made 989 test flights, accumulating 1,551 flight hours. Later on, it was put into commercial service with American Airlines. Important in the story of the DC-10 development is that not only one, but a total of 5 airframes were built to be used as prototypes, and they all flew intensively for checking basic flight characteristics, aircraft systems and special test equipment. During this period these pioneering planes were called "experimental ships", and thus the fourth airframe built to join the test fleet was named "Experimental Ship Number Four". This airframe joined the test fleet in december 1970. Since it had already been decided that she would be handed over to United Airlines later on (which together with American took care of the two large inaugural orders) "experimental ship No. 4" was provided with the United Airlines livery as it was applied in this period and also immediately registered as N1801U. Apart from wearing their future commercial colors, the aircraft to be handed over to American and United had, while in development, the EXPERIMENTAL wording on the side by the doors as well as the McDonnell Douglas logo on the fuselage. Interesting for N1801U was the red color applied on the leading edge flaps of the wings, the horizontal stabilisers, and the inlet cowls of the wing engines casings. All of these special decorations where removed even before the moment the airplane went into commercial service, and it has been nearly impossible for me to find pictures of N1801U with this extraordinary but temporary livery, giving it a fantastic retro-futuristic tin toy look, which finally made me melt completely and decide to include this model in my collection.

On 29 june 1971, N1801U took of for the first time after officialy being delivered to United, more precisely following a joint ceremony during which both first American and United DC-10's (ship no 3 and ship no 4) where physically handed over to their respective owners. However, since N1801U just received a provisional FAA approval at that moment, it could start commercial service only mid-august. N1801U was a DC-10-10 model, which was in fact a "domestic" design with a typical range on the order of 3,800 miles (6,100 km) in a two-class layout. United's first DC-10's had initialy 222 seats, in six-across seating in first-class and eight-across (four pairs) in coach. Needles to say that the similarity to the L-1011 in design, passenger capacity, and launch date resulted in a sales competition between McDonnel Douglas and Lockheed. 122 DC-10-10's have been produced from 1970 to 1981. She was equipped with GE CF6-6 engines, which was the first civil engine version from the CF6 family.

United flew as many as 68 DC-10 aircraft. A fair number of these aircraft reached prominence in the early 1970s, and despite the type’s grounding, United showed confidence in the aircraft. From 1971 through the mid-1990s, United took on DC-10s with some regularity. Most of these, especially the early aircraft, were DC-10-10s, such as N1801U. The DC-10-10 was the shortest range variant of the DC-10, with up to 287 seats and dedicated smoking rows within each cabin. The DC-10s (both DC-10-10s and the longer-range DC-10-30s) served a long life with United, just until the mid 2000s, when most widebody aircraft quickly went from three engines down to two. When it came down to replacements, United Airlines never placed an order for the DC-10s direct successor, the MD-11, and opted for B777 aircraft. Regarding the DC-10's, a handful of airframes underwent conversions from passenger aircraft to freighter aircraft, as it was the case for N1801U, eventually serving a second life at FedEx from 1998 to 2003.


Videos

I have not been able to find any videos dedicated to N1801U or showing the N1801U airframe in detail, and certainly not in her "Experimental Ship" livery. However, in the following video, at 6:22, you can see her parked in the background, during a speech by John Brizendine, VP and General Manager of the DC-10 programme. At 7:17 you can even see her taking off (there is something in me that wants me to believe this is the very first take-off ) :

McDonnell Douglas DC-10 Promo Film - 1970


Photos

The only photo I was able to find depicting N1801U in her experimental ship colours :



N1801 during an operational flight. Note that she is already wearing her "normal" United colours :




The scale model

Specifications

Brand : Inflight
Year : 2018
Scale : 1/200
Serial nr : IFDC10UA0718P
Material : Metal diecast, assembled
Dimensions : 10.9 x 9.34 inches / 27.68 x 23.72 cm
Comes with : Rolling gears, spinning engines, stand


Photos
































Hope you liked it...

Cheers, Deephalo



In case you missed my other recent reviews :
jcahea, MSR777, arctic9048 and 7 others like this.

Last edited by deephalo; 06-29-2021 at 09:49 AM.
deephalo is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 06-29-2021, 06:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
Economy Cla55 Collector
 
Seven-Eight-Seven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Houston
Posts: 365
Default Re: United Airlines DC-10 "Experimental Ship 4"

Great presentation and pictures! I once flew on a DC-10, so a memorable part of the few times I've flown. The red leading edges definitely make it a stand out amongst many others in the collection. Thanks for sharing with us!
deephalo likes this.
__________________
Ladies and Gentlemen, the Blue Angel Diamond is rolling!
Seven-Eight-Seven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2021, 03:13 AM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Collector
 
deephalo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Kampenhout
Age: 46
Posts: 328
Default Re: United Airlines DC-10 "Experimental Ship 4"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seven-Eight-Seven View Post
Great presentation and pictures! ... Thanks for sharing with us!
Thank you. You're welcome !

Last edited by deephalo; 06-30-2021 at 03:27 AM.
deephalo is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Old 06-30-2021, 05:42 AM   #4 (permalink)
Collecting everthing VH
 
Aussiejets's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: 33.9399S,151.1753E
Age: 56
Posts: 4,035
Default Re: United Airlines DC-10 "Experimental Ship 4"

Yes great presentation deephalo,

And I am very sorry, however, you have just highlighted yet another mint green paint error mix up at Inflight200 factory on the DC10 releases over some time, Inflight200 must have this one on their list to correct and re-release too. Shame on such an important model. This issue is only highlighted more by the red leading edges
deephalo likes this.

Last edited by Aussiejets; 06-30-2021 at 07:58 AM.
Aussiejets is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2021, 11:00 AM   #5 (permalink)
Senior Collector
 
deephalo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Kampenhout
Age: 46
Posts: 328
Default Re: United Airlines DC-10 "Experimental Ship 4"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussiejets View Post
Yes great presentation deephalo,

And I am very sorry, however, you have just highlighted yet another mint green paint error mix up ...
Thank you Steve. I was aware of the green coroguard issue. Yes, there will probably be a relaunch of this model, but who knows in how many years from now... I honestly prefer that they start with other models for the first releases with their new mould.
Now, I must say, when I look at the model in real life, there is still a very slight green shine visible, but much less than I've seen on many photos so far, and much less than what I expected. Are there any differences regarding paint composition between the "green" models? Who knows... On the other hand, I know that judging colours from photos is an almost impossible task, although I do admit that I can also see a greenish hue. But in the end, colours are nothing more than just a neurological perception.

Also important to mention, the model is set up at eye level in my cabinet. In other words, you have no direct view on the coroguards. No, for me personally, the problem was certainly not big enough to prevent me from getting this model. I just like her "retro tin toy" look too much.

Cheers, Deephalo
deephalo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2021, 08:02 PM   #6 (permalink)
Collector
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Palos Heights
Posts: 86
Default Re: United Airlines DC-10 "Experimental Ship 4"

Excellent post as usual! I really enjoy reading them.
Thanks
deephalo likes this.
DanO6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2021, 09:26 AM   #7 (permalink)
Collecting everthing VH
 
Aussiejets's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: 33.9399S,151.1753E
Age: 56
Posts: 4,035
Default Re: United Airlines DC-10 "Experimental Ship 4"

Quote:
Originally Posted by deephalo View Post
Thank you Steve. I was aware of the green coroguard issue. Yes, there will probably be a relaunch of this model, but who knows in how many years from now... I honestly prefer that they start with other models for the first releases with their new mould.
Now, I must say, when I look at the model in real life, there is still a very slight green shine visible, but much less than I've seen on many photos so far, and much less than what I expected. Are there any differences regarding paint composition between the "green" models? Who knows... On the other hand, I know that judging colours from photos is an almost impossible task, although I do admit that I can also see a greenish hue. But in the end, colours are nothing more than just a neurological perception.

Also important to mention, the model is set up at eye level in my cabinet. In other words, you have no direct view on the coroguards. No, for me personally, the problem was certainly not big enough to prevent me from getting this model. I just like her "retro tin toy" look too much.

Cheers, Deephalo
But in the end, colours are nothing more than just a neurological perception.

Putting up above eye level doesn't cut it for me. Neither does you justifying such a huge manufacturing error. I totally understand where you are going with these wonderful informative post. They are amazing. There is no need to cover up what has already Inflight have addressed, and they are working on it. Imagine this model with gear up options next release?

Last edited by Aussiejets; 07-01-2021 at 09:55 AM.
Aussiejets is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2021, 10:36 AM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Collector
 
deephalo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Kampenhout
Age: 46
Posts: 328
Default Re: United Airlines DC-10 "Experimental Ship 4"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussiejets View Post
...Neither does you justifying such a huge manufacturing error. I totally understand where you are going with these wonderful informative post. ... There is no need to cover up what has already Inflight have addressed, and they are working on it. Imagine this model with gear up options?
Hey Steve,

Nowhere did I claim that the mint green colour was a not a mistake, nor do I want to cover up what Inflight already knows about. Nowhere did I condone the issue. All I've done is acknowledge the problem, but at the same time also relativise the severity of it for me personally. If I gave a different impression, I am sorry for that.

It is very good that you have raised this problem in the past in a specific thread. It eventually led to Inflight being made aware of the problem, and them confirming to the forum that they are working on it. Thumbs up for that, and I am also very grateful to you for making the effort !

But on the other hand, we must also realize and accept that people can have different levels of tolerance for what is or is not acceptable to them personally. These tolerances are personal opinions that are difficult to discuss in the end. For me personally, the tin toy look outweighed the fact that the wings have a green appearance, which I, again, acknowledge. Assigning weight to the various shortcomings and qualities of a scale model is always a personal matter.

When I say something like "I can live with it", you may not immediately deduce from this that I would not want to acknowledge that there really is a problem with the green colour. It is indeed a serious mistake, like the one a forum member made recently public with a wrong print on the ATI DC9 of Herpa. I don't know if you read that thread (it is here), where I also made it clear there that such a mistake is not acceptable at all. Nevertheless, the model is in my cabinet, because it was something that I absolutely wanted. It is also positioned in a way the makes the mistake invisible. Again, personally, I still find it very regrettable, but the only thing that I can do is hoping for a re-release one day, which I really do...

Regarding my remark "colours are nothing more than just a neurological perception.", it was actually more of a nod to the discussion about the colour of the Southwest B737, and more specifically the difference in opinions about the yellow or gold colour. From a physicist's point of view, I was saying that comparing colours, more precisely on the basis of photos taken in different conditions, will in most circumstances not lead to reliable conclusions.

Regarding removable gears, I immediately go for that. If only because they ensure that the wheels always touch the ground nicely. I have several models where e.g. the nose landing gear is touching the ground with only one wheel, because it is not mounted straight. You see, I'm not just satisfied with everything either ...

Last edited by deephalo; 07-01-2021 at 01:29 PM.
deephalo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2021, 09:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
Master Collector
 
Jetdin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Malacca
Age: 26
Posts: 671
Default Re: United Airlines DC-10 "Experimental Ship 4"

nice model!
asking any diecast dc-10 expert here, did [email protected] improve on this mould in any way since the earlier releases back in 2010?
deephalo likes this.
__________________
SU-34 SR-71


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Jetdin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2021, 11:29 AM   #10 (permalink)
Senior Collector
 
deephalo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Kampenhout
Age: 46
Posts: 328
Default Re: United Airlines DC-10 "Experimental Ship 4"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdin View Post
nice model!
Thank you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdin View Post
asking any diecast dc-10 expert here, did [email protected] improve on this mould in any way since the earlier releases back in 2010?
I am not an expert. I can only say that the latest fabricated Inflight DC-10 I personally have added to my collection is a little bit more recent than the model described in this thread. Apart from the fact that the green-corroguard problem does appear to have been solved with this model (it is the Air Zaire by the way), I don't know if the mould itself has changed since 2010.

Inflight is said to be developing a new mould with removable landing gear, which is really good news, but I don't know when we can expect the first models based on this mould...

Maybe Steve/Aussiejets knows more?
deephalo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2021, 01:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
40 Years of Collecting
 
Madridista's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: GEML/EDDL/KSFO
Posts: 1,977
Default Re: United Airlines DC-10 "Experimental Ship 4"

Quote:
Originally Posted by deephalo View Post
Inflight is said to be developing a new mould with removable landing gear, which is really good news, but I don't know when we can expect the first models based on this mould...
I assume no one needs to develop anything like a new mould just to have removable landing gear. All they need to do is adding a drilling in the existing gear bay, filled by a small magnet… et voilá. Same modification to the gear strut itself and everything is done.
__________________
My 1/200 Wants List for 2021
Gemini200: Condor 757-300 (1999 delivery cs.), Condor 757-300WL (2004 white/blue/yellow cs. with 'Condor' titles)
Inflight200: Martinair 767-300ER (1990's 'Martinair Holland' c/s), Hapag-Lloyd A310-200/-300, LTU-Süd Boeing 757-200, Swiss A330-300 & A340-300 (both in 2003 c/s)
NG Models: Binter Mediterráneo CASA CN-235, Spantax DHC-6 Twin Otter 200
HerpaWings: Spantax Dash 7
Madridista is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2021, 01:50 PM   #12 (permalink)
Senior Collector
 
deephalo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Kampenhout
Age: 46
Posts: 328
Default Re: United Airlines DC-10 "Experimental Ship 4"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Madridista View Post
I assume no one needs to develop anything like a new mould just to have removable landing gear...
I agree with you, of course. I also don't think that Inflight, if they are really making a completely new mould,
they would do it just for the sake of adding removable landing gear.

Maybe there are other things they want to improve?
deephalo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2021, 01:56 PM   #13 (permalink)
Collector
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 3,428
Default Re: United Airlines DC-10 "Experimental Ship 4"

Only thing I think that was changed between their first generation mould and the second, was going from the 2 piece to 1 piece fuselage. Not mould related, but I think the printing of the cockpit windows changed as well.
deephalo likes this.
jcahea is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:47 AM.

Latest Threads
- by Baerke
 

Models of the Week
 



Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2021 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.