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deephalo 05-18-2021 03:17 PM

A300-B2 Air France (Hogan)
 
Scale : 1:200
Publisher/Brand : Hogan / Socatec
Publisher reference : 10359
Version : Plastic snapfit, with stand, with removable gears
Remarks :
For the price of 45 EUR/55 USD, a nicely detailed model, including antennas, and high quality printing, as we have come to expect from Hogan.

Airplane type : Airbus A300-B2-1C
Manufacturer serial number : 5
Engines : 2 x GE CF6-50C
First flight date : April 15, 1974
First commercial flight date : May 23, 1974
Airline : Air France
Registration : F-BVGA
Remarks :
  • Fifth Airbus airframe ever built.
  • First Airbus airframe to operate in commercial service.
  • First A300 to operatie in commercial service.
  • First wide body twinjet to operate in commercial service.

History

Nearly fifty years ago the Airbus adventure started with the A300B. Until the 1960s, the commercial aviation industry in Europe had about fifteen manufacturers, with insufficient capacity to compete with the American giants Douglas, Boeing and Lockheed. The idea came about that only a European cooperation would make it possible to create a manufacturer powerful enough to produce the future "air buses". Launched in 1966, the project took shape on May 29, 1969 with the signing of a Franco-German agreement for the production of a twin-engine aircraft, the A300 B. The first jet made in Europe.

In 1972 the world’s first wide-body twin-engine commercial aircraft performed its maiden flight, the first steps towards changing the face of modern aviation. The A300B and its followers, the A300-600 and the A310, had a rather slow start. Only Air France ordered Airbus: six A300 B2s (with 270 seats), delivered in 1974 and 1975. But as their reputation for economy and reliability spread among airlines, they went on to become market leaders in short to medium haul passenger operations. On May 23, 1974, the Airbus A300 "F-BVGA" made its first commercial flight from Paris-Charles de Gaulle to London with the Air France livery.


The real airplane

https://i.ibb.co/Mkcq2rv/a300b-A300-...-1974-crew.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/mTfxScq/F-BVGAAirbu...ivreen-vol.jpg

The model

Note : the stand on the pictures is not the (plastic) stand that comes with the model, but the large wooden Hogan stand that can be bought separately.

https://i.ibb.co/bvDvVhc/IMG-0556.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/7RgW0F8/IMG-0549.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/JswmZg4/IMG-0547.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/GsvPJkR/IMG-0542.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/qNKLmGP/IMG-0540.jpg

CBL 05-18-2021 04:12 PM

Re: A300-B2 Air France (Hogan)
 
Great write-up and pictures, well done ;)

I also have this model, it is really well made.

deephalo 05-18-2021 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CBL (Post 2837028)
Great write-up and pictures, well done ;)

Thank you :)

wildpig 05-18-2021 04:33 PM

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where did you get yours? A300 is one of hogan's best mould!

CBL 05-18-2021 05:10 PM

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It is a rather old release, I think at least 10 years ago!

Baerke 05-18-2021 05:16 PM

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We need many more A300's from hogan....

wildpig 05-18-2021 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CBL (Post 2837038)
It is a rather old release, I think at least 10 years ago!

I was gonna get one but i guess would be hard to find then

CBL 05-18-2021 06:41 PM

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I just checked, it's a 2008 release. Patience is a virtue as they say, but I am afraid it is going to be hard to find one.

DouglasDC5 05-18-2021 09:53 PM

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This model is one of my personal favorites in my collection.

AIR FRANCE 340 05-19-2021 06:29 AM

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Many thanks for the story and the pictures, it is true that the A 300 was the first in many areas.

I remember that just like the Concorde, the A 300 was not allowed to land on US airports, an unfounded and non-existant problem of taxiways and parking areas unable to sustain the weight of the aircraft.

The FAA did everything it could to protect Boeing,Douglas and Lockheed.
Trade protectionism ...

A great model, it is a pity that SOCATEC did not go further with a barcode livery which could have been equally successful.
A lost opportunity ...

I bought another model, decals and made my own model, I simply had to repaint the fuselage, it sits now proudly in my cabinet.

I have a spare model which could have the Air Inter livery in the coming weeks, and thanks to Steve, the very nice QANTAS version.

Jean Pierre.

CBL 05-19-2021 06:48 AM

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Maybe a new mould in 1/200 will come. I see gemini doing this.

Air inter would be nice for sure.

wildpig 05-19-2021 07:06 AM

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one of hogan best moulds. wish they would release more of the classic airlines for this mould

Seven-Eight-Seven 05-19-2021 08:39 AM

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Great presentation! I didn't realize that the A300 went that far back to be the first widebody. Great looking model, as I remember Hogan's A300's getting alot of attention in the past. Thanks for sharing with us!

KLM4me 05-19-2021 10:39 AM

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Hogan has great moulds! I remember when the A300 models were first released, collectors were going crazy over the details. I had this one, the Thai, and the Iberia. But this is the only one that had a technical booklet included. (Probably because it's Socatec.) Mine had the regular plastic display stand. Love these. A nicely detailed Eastern Air Lines A300 is still not represented in this scale. :sad:

Madridista 05-19-2021 11:13 AM

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Another question: when Hogan released the Air France A300 (as far as I recall, it was the very first release on their then-new A300 mould): did Hogan do it on behalf of Socatec from the very beginning or was it released regularly? I only bought the Iberia version some 10 years ago and was much delighted by the excellence of the mould, indeed.

Old Iberia, newer Air France and so many others would be hot sellers, I am sure.

dennypayne 05-19-2021 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Seven-Eight-Seven (Post 2837128)
I didn't realize that the A300 went that far back to be the first widebody.

Not the first widebody, but the first widebody twin (I think the history has a typo where it says 'twin-aisle' - that should be 'twin-engine').

Madridista 05-19-2021 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dennypayne (Post 2837150)
Not the first widebody, but the first widebody twin (I think the history has a typo where it says 'twin-aisle' - that should be 'twin-engine').

It also says “The first jet made in Europe”, and I am still wondering what they could’ve meant to say...!?

It also says the Airbus consortium was formed in order to have more competitive aircraft built against the competition from Boeing, Douglas and Lockheed. That’s half the truth only, since the aviation industry was completely different back then. National carriers bought national products, even among European countries. The French bought french aircraft, the Brits bought British aircraft, and even the Spaniards and Germans tried to have their own aircraft for national purposes built. In fact, Europe had a variety of strong aeronautical manufacturers with high technical standards and engineering. The Airbus project followed the Concorde joint-venture of British and French aviation industry (and it was politically desired at that time) since otherwise it would have been a ‘mission impossible’ - as it had been in the end for all the other manufacturers, including Boeing and Lockheed.

deephalo 05-19-2021 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dennypayne (Post 2837150)
...where it says 'twin-aisle' - that should be 'twin-engine'...

You are correct dennypayne.
Correction done.
Thank you for the remark. ;)

deephalo 05-19-2021 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Madridista (Post 2837166)
It also says “The first jet made in Europe”, and I am still wondering what they could’ve meant to say...!?

IMHO what is meant here is "the first jet that was of any significance, in that it should have been able to compete with the jets of that time, like DC-10, B707, ... "
I think we should try to read behind the lines here and not interpret everything literally.

deephalo 05-19-2021 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by wildpig (Post 2837032)
where did you get yours? A300 is one of hogan's best mould!

My wife picked it up in a store at Geneva airport.
It was pure coincidence. She can only decide on scale, she knows I collect 1/200, and civilian aircraft.
That's where it ends for her regarding knowledge on aircraft...
But she makes good choices that turn into pleasant surprises. ;)

deephalo 05-19-2021 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Baerke (Post 2837042)
We need many more A300's from hogan....

A PIA has just recently been announced... :D

Yourpalaceinthesky 05-19-2021 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by deephalo (Post 2837192)
A PIA has just recently been announced... :D

An Air India too! Both look beautiful in the pictures I've seen thus far :)

KLM4me 05-19-2021 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by deephalo (Post 2837192)
A PIA has just recently been announced... :D

Different than the one already available? There are 2 on evilBay now, located in HK.

Yourpalaceinthesky 05-19-2021 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KLM4me (Post 2837200)
Different than the one already available? There are 2 on evilBay now, located in HK.

The very same. A300-B4 in the retro livery with a gold stripe. Their classiest and probably longest-running colours.

1:200FreakReturns 05-19-2021 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by deephalo (Post 2837192)

A PIA has just recently been announced... [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/IMG]

My very first flight was on a PIA A300. This is going to be a must have. Have the check their fleet history to see if it was the A300-600
maybe?

Edit. There were all A300-B4s

https://historyofpia.com/oldfleet.htm


Quote:

Originally Posted by KLM4me (Post 2837200)

Different than the one already available? There are 2 on evilBay now, located in HK.

I always thought the A300s previously existed. Or were those the -600s from Hogan.

wildpig 05-19-2021 04:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deephalo (Post 2837190)
My wife picked it up in a store at Geneva airport.
It was pure coincidence. She can only decide on scale, she knows I collect 1/200, and civilian aircraft.
That's where it ends for her regarding knowledge on aircraft...
But she makes good choices that turn into pleasant surprises. ;)

Your wife has excellent taste...lol... Its definitely a lot more valuable than 45euro due to being out of production and a classic airline!

NYCAAer 05-19-2021 04:51 PM

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Very nicely done, from the days of when we all collected plastic, before the advent of so much diecast in 1/200! If I remember correctly, Air France also used the A300 on scheduled services from JFK to Guadeloupe and Martinique in the mid/late 1970s, competing with AA for the Club Med business that was so popular at the time. AA used 707s.

Thanks for sharing the history and the pictures, what a sharp-looking crew! I’ve always wondered why Air France and other French airline crews have always worn their wings on the right side of jacket, all other crews around the world wear them on the left.

wildpig 05-19-2021 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NYCAAer (Post 2837216)

Thanks for sharing the history and the pictures, what a sharp-looking crew! I’ve always wondered why Air France and other French airline crews have always worn their wings on the right side of jacket, all other crews around the world wear them on the left.

I thought it's only the Brit that drives on the left side of the road with the French drives on the right like everyone else...lol..

NYCAAer 05-19-2021 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wildpig (Post 2837218)
I thought it's only the Brit that drives on the left side of the road with the French drives on the right like everyone else...lol..

You know, I had thought about that! So I guess everyone is following the British example. Maybe Jean-Pierre knows why and he can chime in.

Madridista 05-19-2021 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by deephalo (Post 2837186)
IMHO what is meant here is "the first jet that was of any significance, in that it should have been able to compete with the jets of that time, like DC-10, B707, ... "
I think we should try to read behind the lines here and not interpret everything literally.

True. I actually think it was meant to be “the first jet made in Europe”.

KLM4me 05-19-2021 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by wildpig (Post 2837214)
Your wife has excellent taste...lol... Its definitely a lot more valuable than 45euro due to being out of production and a classic airline!

They're not as valuable or as difficult to find as you may believe. Two have sold on eBay within the past month, one for €58.43 and another for €49.17.

I wouldn't mind having the Thai A300 again. Maybe someday.

Aussiejets 05-20-2021 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CBL (Post 2837108)
Maybe a new mould in 1/200 will come. I see gemini doing this.

Air inter would be nice for sure.


The A310 has been very successful for Inflight200 I would have thought a A300 tooling would be just as successful filling those fleet collector gaps.

Aussiejets 05-20-2021 06:03 AM

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This Hogan model is absolutely superb, a friend of mine has the Air France model which I get to see from time to time it's so beautiful. I have three different (liveries) of VH-TAA


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