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Old 02-27-2021, 05:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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It's been a while I did something here, well as for now my B747 collection has a grand total of 40 scale 1:200 diecast B747's in it and yea I think that is it for now, I am keeping a spot ready for if the JAL Dream Express #6 Mickey is made by JC Wings, since they did do all the other five, so there is always room for that model if it ever will be released, all a matter of when I guess.


So on with number 39; as that number 40 will have a separate thread for it's self.

Boeing 747-406
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines "KLM B747-400 Delivery Livery 1989-1990"
PH-BFA "City of Atlanta"
Scale 1:200
Inflight 200


I bought the model from an ebayer from Germany for 172 Eur incl shipping, since UK will get me custom taxes I bought it in Germany for that reason, it wasn't easy to find sadly, it seems to have been a very wanted model.

Only downside was a paint rub on the top side of its left wing, but then again see that as weathering and it doesn't bother me to send it back either, if anyone has a golden tip to fix it even more feel free to leave a message telling me what to do, if it's best to leave it, then so be it, either way I am satisfied, models aren't perfect this is a good example of that.

So here the box shots to begin with:






And here the model it's self:



Also note the windowless part for the galley and the dark navy blue KLM lotgo's:


And the classic BOEING 747 logo without the -400 part to it, this livery was the transition livery that sat between the Royal Blue Livery which was used from 1976 to 1989 and the KLM/Northwest Livery which was used from 1990 to 2003.


the second photo you can see the paintrub I was referring to, I seen worse and yea nothing is perfect it is what it is, but if you guys have an idea to make it better, feel free to let me know.
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And on with the rest of the photo's


Found a new way to make side shots, kind of worked out well I thought!


Despite it's little mishaps the paintrub that being, I still love this B747 to bits, the livery really puts it to it's rights <3
Them Dark navy blue KLM's stand much better out than the current light blue ones.







Stand shots:

Here some nice shots I took of the model from it's stand:


Here I took some dynamic ones as well, so it's nicer to observe it from all different angles alike.




Last stand shot & final display:
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And so the final part of this long review, here all six different Liveries that were used for the KLM B747's from 1971 to 2020.

KLM White Top Livery from 1971 to 1976:


KLM Royal Blue Livery from 1976 to 1989:


KLM B747-400 Delivery Livery 1989-1990:


KLM/Northwest Livery 1990 - 2003:


Air France - KLM Livery 2003 - 2020:


KLM Wave Livery 2014 - 2020:


The First KLM B747-400 & B747-200 in one shot:
The KLM B747-406 PH-BFA "City of Atlanta" & KLM B747-206B PH-BUA "The Mississippi"


Here all six KLM B747's in one shot




Hereby I end this thread and on to the next one
Enjoy the photo's and the entire thread it's self, it took me some more time for this one, I was really worried to post it here or not.
But today I eventually decided to go along with it, I guess.

Yet I just hope no drama will be involved, so hereby I kindly ask to leave out the unwanted messages
Many thanks for reading.

For this one I have the best cover of MJ's Earth Song by The ladies of Soul's lead singer Kimberly, she is Dutch and puts this song to it's best of all qualities:
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that is very nicely done. Lovely models too
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Beautiful B747’s and every KLM collector must be very happy of all theses nicely done IF200 models.

For myself I have 4 of them + 3 MARTINAIR/KLM CARGO ones, where the one in pure MARTINAIR colours is my absolute favourite model of my entire collection as beside the name (= my name) I flew on this particular one on the jump seat in the cockpit when it belonged to SIA...
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that is very nicely done. Lovely models too
Hey thanks man and yea I used basic HTML to code the photo's in that I uploaded to my personal gallery, it did take some time but the result is surely promising

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Beautiful B747’s and every KLM collector must be very happy of all theses nicely done IF200 models.

For myself I have 4 of them + 3 MARTINAIR/KLM CARGO ones, where the one in pure MARTINAIR colours is my absolute favorite model of my entire collection as beside the name (= my name) I flew on this particular one on the jump seat in the cockpit when it belonged to SIA...
Oh very cool memory there and thanks for the kind comment too

Still one review to go after this, the 40th B747 of my set which is complete for now.
The 40th is a QANTAS B747SP-38 the VH-EAB.
So gonna work on that part in a bit

As for my favorite still my National B747-135 the N77772 "SUN KING" dunno it just has something epic to it plus that lovely 747 logo on it's side and the 1970's style sun art yeah love it, which is this beauty:


For SUN KING's review, go here:
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Nice models, that is a lot of 747s
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Nice collection of (KLM) 747 Goldleader. I share your passion when it comes to the blue birds.
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I was going to ask whether IF200 also did a "City of Vancouver" and I see in your pics they did.
I wondered because of the starboard name on the model - not that this is something to really bother with the naked eye I think.
Did IF200 do both Atlanta and Vancouver at the same time?
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I wondered because of the starboard name on the model - not that this is something to really bother with the naked eye I think.
I'm uncertain I understand your comment here, but if you're remarking about the aircraft name being different between port and starboard, I'm fairly certain that's what KLM does with their aircraft. Example: port side has the name of the city "Atlanta"; starboard side says, "City of Atlanta."

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IF200 produced two models of each registration. PH-BFA was produced in 2003 colours in 2015; the model you see above was produced in 2020. PH-BFV was produced in 2003 colours in 2015; "The World Is Just A Click Away" titles was produced in 2019.
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I'm uncertain I understand your comment here, but if you're remarking about the aircraft name being different between port and starboard, I'm fairly certain that's what KLM does with their aircraft. Example: port side has the name of the city "Atlanta"; starboard side says, "City of Atlanta."



IF200 produced two models of each registration. PH-BFA was produced in 2003 colours in 2015; the model you see above was produced in 2020. PH-BFV was produced in 2003 colours in 2015; "The World Is Just A Click Away" titles was produced in 2019.
I just wondered about why I see what I see. That is "Vancouver" underneath the "Atlanta" print if I'm not wrong. 2020 release of FA following that of FW in 2019 would lead me to think about some kind of fuselage recycling here - the port side however seems to be clean.
Still I really like the looks of those models.
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I just wondered about why I see what I see. That is "Vancouver" underneath the "Atlanta" print if I'm not wrong. 2020 release of FA following that of FW in 2019 would lead me to think about some kind of fuselage recycling here - the port side however seems to be clean.
Still I really like the looks of those models.
Oh, that's what you meant. Sorry. I hadn't noticed it, but after enlarging one of the photos, I see it now. Possibly just miscommunication with or at the factory. Gorgeous model. Whilst I no longer collect KLM (now a Virgin Atlantic fan), they've had some amazing liveries, this being at the top.
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Nice models, that is a lot of 747s
Hey thanks man, yea this was a fun one to review and to obtain of course

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Nice collection of (KLM) 747 Goldleader. I share your passion when it comes to the blue birds.
Hey no worries man Every Boeing 747 puts a smile on my face, as does this one, always wanted a KLM B747 with their KLM B747 Delivery Livery as the dark blue logo's go and just gray painted winglets on the insides later they were painted white and applied with a light blue KLM logo on both sides.

There are some distinctive differences from this KLM B747-400 delivery livery and the KLM Sky Blue Livery thatw as used from 1976 to 1989 and the KLM/Northwest Livery that was used from 1990 to 2003, it's sometimes referred as the Transition Livery from old to new and that surely makes sense, you can really see the transition from the late 1970's & 1980's to the early 1990's & 2000's.

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I just wondered about why I see what I see. That is "Vancouver" underneath the "Atlanta" print if I'm not wrong. 2020 release of FA following that of FW in 2019 would lead me to think about some kind of fuselage recycling here - the port side however seems to be clean.
Still I really like the looks of those models.
HM i see it as well now, seems my camera surely does pick up everything, probably a mistake IF200 made and quickly did a fix to the correct name tag, I see it now hjaha oh damn xD Always funny to see such things, eagle eyes my friend, eagle eyes!

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Oh, that's what you meant. Sorry. I hadn't noticed it, but after enlarging one of the photos, I see it now. Possibly just miscommunication with or at the factory. Gorgeous model. Whilst I no longer collect KLM (now a Virgin Atlantic fan), they've had some amazing liveries, this being at the top.
Nope it's all correct actually, this model it pretty unique considering the differences it has with later B747-400 series models from the KLM fleet, it's really worth getting, glad I got mine, just worth it all

Also what is noticeable is this dark navy blue blank piece of metal which reveals the galley, later KLM used sealed windows for these parts


And here the model:


And in that lower photo of my model I too can clearly see the mistake IF200 did for naming it Vancouver and then painting over it by naming it Atlanta , interesting find indeed, Phantom II
This can be the reason of lesser quality quality control and what impact covid-19 had on certain model companies, lesser man power lesser quality products in the end, not sayign all were bad runs but there were indeed more mistakes from models that were released in the years 2020 & 20201, even though it can also just be a bad coincidence that this occurred, as I say many times not one model is perfect hehe
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Love how you show the entire lineage of the KLM 747! A very nice new addition! I am sure your collecting shelves must be nearly full of 747s now!
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Very nice thread goldleader. The BFA belong in your 747 collection as a reminder of the beginning of the very succesfull 747-400 at KLM. The paint rub is minor imho, I should leave it like that.
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Love how you show the entire lineage of the KLM 747! A very nice new addition! I am sure your collecting shelves must be nearly full of 747s now!
Hey thanks man and yea it is very full atm I think I have space for 2 maybe 3 more but that is really pushing it haha
Aaah well, now I gotta find a new way to make space.. again
It's the one fear all of us collectors will face to some point, running out of space and then making space for more collectables rofl

Nah all good though, I am very pleased to what this collection has become, all worth it man

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Very nice thread goldleader. The BFA belong in your 747 collection as a reminder of the beginning of the very succesfull 747-400 at KLM. The paint rub is minor imho, I should leave it like that.
Yea always wanted to add Atlanta to my set, just didn't feel like paying too much for one Herpa Premium wise :X So I thank the IF200 team greatly for doing this very cool release of theirs, yea it has some minor mistakes but I do plan leaving it at the way it is, it's not all too bad like you said leave it be so I will

QANTAS B747SP-38 VH-EAB "City of Traraglon" my 40th arrival is next, so stay tuned.
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Congratulations Goldie. The KLM journey with it's 747 liveries is very nice I have to say. Thank you for your time and effort for the photo shoot and posting to share your collection with with us
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Congratulations Goldie. The KLM journey with it's 747 liveries is very nice I have to say. Thank you for your time and effort for the photo shoot and posting to share your collection with with us
Hey thanks yea was worth doing this though, still working on drafting the final topic of all 40 B747's from that long time collecting mainly searching , and reserving some of them, all in all it was a worthy ride to be part of.
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Hey Gold Leader, That is an excellent threat about the beloved KLM 747 fleet. I am just started a build of a -200SUD (full interior of course) in de 'KLM Royal Blue Livery'. Just to add some information to your great storyline here: the change from 'old' to 'new' blue was done in the beginning of 1991 (extending to around 1996). To be exact: on February 1991 the first 747-300 PH-BUU rolled out its heavy maintenance to sport the blue top defined by color code PMS 299C (the same blue as is used today). The most plausible definition of the blue top in the periode 1973 till 1991 is PMS 2985; more red, so slightly lighter and more turquoise in appearance. Also the logo was changed at that moment from two tone blue to one single tone. The delivery colors of the -400 indeed formed a kind of bridge between the bare metal bellys and engine cowlings and the light grey paint that was used until the introduction of the current 'Cool Grey'.

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Hey Gold Leader, That is an excellent thread about the beloved KLM 747 fleet. I am just started a build of a -200SUD (full interior of course) in de 'KLM Royal Blue Livery'. Just to add some information to your great storyline here: the change from 'old' to 'new' blue was done in the beginning of 1991 (extending to around 1996). To be exact: on February 1991 the first 747-300 PH-BUU rolled out its heavy maintenance to sport the blue top defined by color code PMS 299C (the same blue as is used today). The most plausible definition of the blue top in the periode 1973 till 1991 is PMS 2985; more red, so slightly lighter and more turquoise in appearance. Also the logo was changed at that moment from two tone blue to one single tone. The delivery colors of the -400 indeed formed a kind of bridge between the bare metal bellies and engine cowlings and the light grey paint that was used until the introduction of the current 'Cool Grey'.

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hey thanks and yea this was fun to do, I have all six different KLM B747 liveries so this topic is somewhat longer than previous ones I made

But that is interesting as the color codes went, yet I didn't see any red in the colors used. the dark navy blue KLM logo's do stand out more imo than the lighter blue ones KLM has used since 1991.

The B747 400 Delivery Livery surely has a very nice touch, but I think my PH-BUW has the ebst looks, the one with the polished belly, jbackon December 21, 1985 my mother sister & I flew with the PH0BUU I even remember the captain telling me that that was their first B747-300 series that was not a modified B747-200B with the SUD package.

the livery we had was exactly the same as my PH-BUW model has , Dark navy blue KLM Logo's and the polished belly

Our fly path was the following:

Sydney - Singapore - Colombo - Amsterdam

Return trip was on January 24, 1986

Amsterdam Colombo - Singapore - Sidney

I don't remember much of it but some things are still kind of there, as for the model BUU was sold out even tho BUU has the KLM/North West Livery it didn't bother me much I went for BUW2 a it has the correct livery from back then and that is how I remember that aircraft at it's best.

I still have the original KLM Retour ticket and a KLM Memory card game from that flight.

Here an older photo of PH-BUU , with the retour ticket in the background:

Still one of my favorite classic as well, a KLM B747-306M the PH-BUW that being from ARD Models UK

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Hey many thanks also check out my VH-EAB topic made that the day after I did this one
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My 6th B747SP that is
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But that is interesting as the color codes went, yet I didn't see any red in the colors used. the dark navy blue KLM logo's do stand out more imo than the lighter blue ones KLM has used since 1991.

The B747 400 Delivery Livery surely has a very nice touch, but I think my PH-BUW has the ebst looks, the one with the polished belly, jbackon December 21, 1985 my mother sister & I flew with the PH0BUU I even remember the captain telling me that that was their first B747-300 series that was not a modified B747-200B with the SUD package.
He Gold Leader,

The current light blue (PMS 299C) is defined as RGB 0, 161, 221. The 'old blue' color is estimated as RGB 91, 194, 231 (definition unknown), hence the comment about a more red, that in combination with a higher degree of green results in a lighter appearance (complementary colours) and is leaning towards more turquoise.

The navy blue is named 'Indigo Blue' and is defined as PMS 541 (RGB 0, 60, 113). This color also changed slightly in 1991. It became a fraction lighter and deeper blue. So in de periode 1991/1996 there were 747's with the 'old blue' livery, including new delivered -400s, but with the new one shade blue logo on the tail... to make matters complex ;-)

Of course the captain was right! PH-BUU (and 'V' and 'W') were the only three factory build -300s. The other 10 aircraft were the GE CF-6 powered -200s which have been adjusted to SUD standards between 1984/1986.

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Yea, makes me wonder if a real 300 still has improvements over a modified B747-200B SUD, any idea's would a real 300 still be a better option, hence still being newer and all?

As PH-BUK goes I made a lovely review of that awesome bird here:
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That is a B747-206B(M) SUD it went through the Boeing Stretched Upper Deck upgrade packing in 1984 I believe it was.

it certainly does eye as a B747-300 tbh, but then again I still think an original B747-300 still has some advantages over this, beyond me if otherwise, since why would Boeing go all through on designing a B747-300 while the SUD upgrade would basically give you a similar concept.

So due to that reason is why i think a real B747-300 still had some advantages over these SUD modified B747-206B(M)'s
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Old 03-03-2021, 05:43 PM   #24 (permalink)
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The -200SUD modification brought the aircraft to exact to the -300 standard. It was not only the stretch of the upper deck. Also some systems were modified, such as the Rudder ratio changer. The benefits of a -300/-200SUD were relatively small: more seats, fuel consumption decreased by 2% while the economic cruise speed increased from mach 0.84 to 0.85. It was considered expensive for a soon to be outdated model. Oh, you also got a straight staircase for that price... With only 81 units produces, model -300 was not deemed an overriding success.

KLM had taken delivery of its 2nd generation 747s from 1975, almost all equipped with the SCD, making it Combi's. The 3 -300 were just the last aircraft to be delivered from the order book and KLM took the option for the newer model. The -300s had a 10% increase in capacity with only a 2% increase in the empty weight. This means extra profit potential, lower seat mileage and 5% lower fuel consumption per ASM (Available Seat Miles). Since the rest of the 10 CF-6 powered 747-200 were relatively young (and the model -400 with significant improvements was already advertised for the upcoming years) KLM decided not to replace the aircrafts for new ones, but to modify to -300 standards. Hence the modification, with a total cost of 'only' 150 million dollars for 10 aircraft.

The SUD modification program was available for the -100B/SR/-200B and -200B Combi models equipped with Pratt & Whitney JT9D-JFW, -7J, -7Q and -7R4G2, General Electric CF6-50E/E1/E2 and Rolls-Royce RB211-524B2/C2/D4 engines. KLM's first generation 747's were equipped with the basic JT9D-3AW, so the modification was not available to these aircraft.
After the job was done, you were not able to tell the difference between a -300 and a -200SUD. In general of course. Because every plane has its own 'soul' and everyday users really can tell you the difference between individual airframes ;-)
The modification was accomplished using current engine options and brake release gross weights. So with the increased weight of around 5 tonnes after the modification, the range was decreased as only noticeable disadvantage of a -200SUD over a new -300.

Despite all of this, the modification was not a succes after all. In addition to the 10 KLM aircraft, the conversion was only carried out on two UTA (Air France) 747-200s and two JAL 747-100BSR (resulting in a maximum capacity of 563 seats!)

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These are very interesting info, I wasn't aware. Thank you for sharing
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OH wow that's really interesting so even being small differences the 30-0 was a tiny bit improved than a 200 SUD, really didn't know it was this small though

Just an odd question though would the SUD upgrade package ork with a Boeing 747SP?
Or would that only bring in more complications for the SP's main design it's self like airflow issues and what not?

Many thanks for giving all these cool info's it's even new to me in some details really cool

For those that haven't seen my PH-BUK revisit topic I placed it here at the Scale 1:1 section for civil aviation:
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My dad & I spent a 6 hour revisit when we had a nice August after summer day with 22 a 23 C

it was during the covid-19 era, but thanks to that only 50 people were aloud to be at the park, this became very ideal for photo shooting!
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You can really see it as a Boeing 747-300, the reason I made them from this angle, it felt as if I was making photo's of a bigger diecast B747 model
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Very interesting VJ! That's the kind of information that makes a story behind a model. I bet Inflight has to do less off a fuzz to convert a -200 in a -300 then Boeing did back in the days...
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Just an odd question though would the SUD upgrade package ork with a Boeing 747SP?
Or would that only bring in more complications for the SP's main design it's self like airflow issues and what not?
Very interesting question. It is actually the opposite! If it wasn't for the 747SP the SUD types would be non existent.

Let me explain. Actually the 747SP was a new type of aircraft that only looked like a shrunken 747. The 757 and 767 differ less from each other than the 747SP from the rest of the 747 family. All the fundamentals had to be redesigned in such a way that in fact you talk about another type. The wing structure, the flap principles, the tail section (section 46) and the wingbox to fuselage (section 44) had to be completely redesigned. This fuselage plug is exactly the same section as used in the stretched upper-deck design.



To answer your question: an 747SP/SUD would have requested for the redesign of fuselage section 44 and 46. So, once again another compete new fuselage design for an aircraft that serves a small niche. Albeit technically possible, it would have been a commercial disaster. But the design of the 747SP wasn't a write-off at all. It led to huge successes in the '80s and '90s!
During the oil crisis of the 1970s there was no market request for a stretched 747, as there was for an ultra long haul version of the 747 (the driving force behind the SP design). So most likely the SUD would never have been developed if the fuselage plug wasn't an of-the-shelf design when the market suddenly demanded a larger capacity 747 version during the '80s. Especially in combination with the significant wing aerodynamic, power plant and avionic improvements, the SUD was a key element in the cocktail of succes of the model -400.

Another other innovative design principle derived from the 747SP, and considered a sort of standard for all subsequent 747s, is the longitudinal galley. In order to make optimum use of the reduced space in the cabin, smart solutions were devised. Walter Dorwin Teague Associates invented the longitudinal forward galley: one long central kitchen on the right side of the fuselage between service doors 1 and 2. There was even a small (non person) elevator. This meant that the first class and upper deck lounge could be served from one single galley.
One of the hidden secrets of the -200SUD conversion is that during the modification proces, with the rooftop completely removed, a complete new longitudinal galley block was lifted in the fuselage. KLM's first generation 747s were later also fitted with a kind of longitudinal galley, but a complete standard unit could not be installed because of its dimensions. You can tell the difference if you take a closer look at the number of blind window plugs in KLMs short hump 747's and after the 747-200SUD modification.

So, I do not have to state to all of you my admiration and affection of the models SP and -300?

cheers, VJ
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Aha many thanks for explaining and yea you are right about the extra long galley heres the one from PH-BUK
Here the Galley:


And here the sealed off windows that kind of reveal the long galley section, the same was done with SAA's B747SP's



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