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Old 01-25-2021, 05:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Interesting to see the helicopter. We need more of those in 1/200 scale. I have not seen anything new since 2015. https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com...licopters.html
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Being the retro fan I am, the BA V107, the IB Connie, the LH 747, the CSA IL18, SR DC4 and maybe the EL B707 are in the pick 'em up category
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I really like that VTOL too, hope to see more in the future.
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As I am here at FRA also responsible for our Berlin Airlift Monument, the “Unterwalden” is of course a Must for me as it is one of the two aircrafts which are presented here...

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next month please... lol
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The BA VTOL for me, would the Lufthansa 747 be diecast or plastic?
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ooh. BA Chinook and CSA Il18...
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The BA VTOL for me, would the Lufthansa 747 be diecast or plastic?
I guess it is made on the JCW mould, as the description says diecast model.
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Very nice releases; 4 to pre-order.Must haves for a retro-collector!

Iberia Super Constellation, Swiss Air Lines DC-4, CSA IL-18 and Lufthansa B747-200.
The Lufthansa B747-200 D-ABYD "Baden-Württemberg" is metal hence the price ; JC-wings mould I believe.
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The LH 747 could be amazing, as it is probably done with the JCW/Gemini tool - polished as well. Should be a stunner!
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Very nice that LH 747! Must have for me!
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Interesting to see the helicopter. We need more of those in 1/200 scale. I have not seen anything new since 2015. https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com...licopters.html
Agree, I would love to add a heli to my fleet
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Very nice that LH 747! Must have for me!
Yup, same here! Will be ordering that one.
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Agree, I would love to add a heli to my fleet
Wich other airlines had these helicopters in commercial service?
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It figures that I just had a custom made of that Alrosa Tu-154 since I flew it in 2018. I'll still probably pick it up anyway. Maybe the IL-18 too.
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Silly question, but I don't collect Civil much. But I want to pre-order the Lufthansa 747. Any recommended dealers? I am in the USA (CA).

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Make this a -200 as the image shows YD.

Very interesting lineup by Herpa.
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Can anyone confirm that the Lufthansa 747 is actually plastic?! I'm a little confused.
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Make this a -200 as the image shows YD.
Yes, this is a B747-200.

However, until now I thought that three upper deck windows would be typical for a B747-100. What is the exact difference? Is there a certain distinguishing feature that can be recognized from the outside at all?

BTW This Lufthansa 747-200 (D-ABYD) "Baden Württemberg" was hijacked by terrorists on February 22, 1972 en route from New Delhi to Athens.

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The early Boeing 747-200Bs were better equipped for long distance flights, with a higher MTOW and improved engines if I'm not mistaken. From the outside you can hardly spot any differences compared to the -100s.

Lufthansa, among other airlines such as KLM, Alitalia, Swissair etc, operated this early version of the 747-200B, which was only available with PW engines.

There was a maximum number of passenger allowed on the upper deck in the early 1970s. A rule that was later removed. Boeing reflected this change by delivering their first 747-200Bs with only three windows on the upper deck. The next stage was ten holes but seven of them plugged (to allow for an easy upgrade). Eventually Boeing's 747-200Bs were delivered with ten windows on the upper deck. Lufthansa/Condor had all these variations in their fleet.

This is a nice shot of D-ABYG with most the of the upper deck windows plugged and dirty:
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Unlike D-ABYG, D-ABYD, which will be released by Herpa, was delivered with only three windows on the upper deck.

It didn't have the plugged holes for an easy upgrade and the side panels were never replaced. It was sold off to Korean around 1980 and ended up in the Mojave Desert in the late 1990s, still in its original configuration.

This is a picture of its afterlife with Korean:
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Yes, this is a B747-200.

... Is there a certain distinguishing feature that can be recognized from the outside at all?....

If you're lucky you can tell a -100 by a look at its wheels.
It was originally certified and equiped with 46x16 tires (707 tires) while the -200 needed 49x17 to cater the increased weights.
So if it's got the smaller 46x16 its got to be a -100. Though this identification doesn't work the other way round...
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Can anyone confirm that the Lufthansa 747 is actually plastic?! I'm a little confused.
No, it is die-cast metal. For that price of 149 € it has to be die metal. Probably JC Wings Mould.
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If you're lucky you can tell a -100 by a look at its wheels.
It was originally certified and equiped with 46x16 tires (707 tires) while the -200 needed 49x17 to cater the increased weights.
So if it's got the smaller 46x16 its got to be a -100. Though this identification doesn't work the other way round...
Interesting detail, Alex. But may it be possible that the larger wheels were not installed on the early 747-200Bs? This picture of D-ABYD appears to show wheels similar in size to the 100:

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Can anyone confirm that the Lufthansa 747 is actually plastic?! I'm a little confused.
Even the news prospectus from Herpa says its (mainly) metal:

https://www.herpa.de/Downloads/NH%20...2021_05-06.pdf

See page 6 there: The sign "M" means metal, explained on page 2.
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BTW, D-ABYD lost its sat dome in the late 1970s so Herpa's drawing is accurate.
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Interesting detail, Alex. But may it be possible that the larger wheels were not installed on the early 747-200Bs? This picture of D-ABYD appears to show wheels similar in size to the 100:

Hmm, I'm not aware of a certification of 46er for a -200. They should all be 49. I've seen main tires of only 44x16 for a low load 741 though.

I'll have a closer look at some images later just out of personal interest.
Problem is always the picture reference. The 49 can also be used on a 741.
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I do adore the Boeing-Vertol 234 in the livery of British Airways Helicopters! Very interesting that they produce such an exotic. Just hope they have the details better organized than in the image. It looks like the engine is mounted to the tail rotor pylon instead of the rear part of the fuselage. Anyway, it is a nice celebration of the 40th anniversary of the Commercial Chinook. At this moment I am completing a 1/72 model of the same helicopter:



But of course I will not pass up the 1/200 version either.

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Hmm, I'm not aware of a certification of 46er for a -200. They should all be 49. I've seen main tires of only 44x16 for a low load 741 though.

I'll have a closer look at some images later just out of personal interest.
Problem is always the picture reference. The 49 can also be used on a 741.

Well, have to admit that it is hard to tell 3" of difference from those old and low resolution pictures, but when having those images side by side with D-ABYA for example I'd believe to see a difference.


Just out of interest:
Do today's 1/200 moulds actually display the difference between early and late 741/742 in regards to engines? That is early vs. later pylons and early vs. later JT9D nacelles. Or are they all the same? Just asking as I havn't bought a 1/200 in many years and didn't pay much attention.
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Just out of interest:
Do today's 1/200 moulds actually display the difference between early and late 741/742 in regards to engines? That is early vs. later pylons and early vs. later JT9D nacelles. Or are they all the same? Just asking as I havn't bought a 1/200 in many years and didn't pay much attention.
To be honest ... I don't see any noticeable difference.

With a 747-400 I can clearly see whether it is a GE, PW or RR engine. And you have to be happy with the model manufacturers when they reproduce that correctly.

With the 747-100 and 747-200, at first glance I only see the difference between the engines with the longer cowl and the short one. For me these are always the "old" engines. If there are still subtle differences here, I haven't noticed them yet. I don't think the model manufacturers would accept extra costs for other molds.

So far, I have only considered the slight, visible differences in the "old" engines of these models as the different manufacturer's personal style.
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Agree, I would love to add a heli to my fleet
Dragging up an old thread - but there is a British Airways Helicopters Sikorsky on eBay right now.

Same one as I have. A little beauty.
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Dragging up an old thread - but there is a British Airways Helicopters Sikorsky on eBay right now.

Same one as I have. A little beauty.
that is one fairly expensive 1/200 for the size...
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Another BEA Helicopter was this Corgi Bell 206B Jetranger at 1/80th scale Hard to find but not expensive when they do turn up on ebay.


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I do adore the Boeing-Vertol 234 in the livery of British Airways Helicopters! Very interesting that they produce such an exotic. Just hope they have the details better organized than in the image. It looks like the engine is mounted to the tail rotor pylon instead of the rear part of the fuselage. Anyway, it is a nice celebration of the 40th anniversary of the Commercial Chinook. At this moment I am completing a 1/72 model of the same helicopter:



But of course I will not pass up the 1/200 version either.

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Any more news on this? Looks as though it’s going to be impressive.

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that is one fairly expensive 1/200 for the size...
Yes, but items this rare often come at a premium.
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The EL AL 707 is such a huge disappointment. I received mine today and was shocked to see that the titles on the box art were reversed, gold (English) black (Hebrew). The model itself is worse. The title is blue / gold instead of black / gold. The cheatline is supposed to be two toned blue. It is barely two toned.
As a hardcore LY collector, I am so disappointed. This model is NOT recommended.
I don't have much experience with Herpa, are they that bad?
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The EL AL 707 is such a huge disappointment. I received mine today and was shocked to see that the titles on the box art were reversed, gold (English) black (Hebrew). The model itself is worse. The title is blue / gold instead of black / gold. The cheatline is supposed to be two toned blue. It is barely two toned.
As a hardcore LY collector, I am so disappointed. This model is NOT recommended.
I don't have much experience with Herpa, are they that bad?
I'm sorry to hear that but Herpa delivers good models in general. Try to contact Herpa customer service through www.herpa.de and raise your concern. You might receive positive feedback from Herpa.
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I'm sorry to hear that but Herpa delivers good models in general. Try to contact Herpa customer service through www.herpa.de and raise your concern. You might receive positive feedback from Herpa.
If the error was done and production already completed, their feedback will be like ‘Yes, indeed, we already noticed and are sorry for the inconvenience, but since the whole production run is already finished we cannot correct that error. We will do so, however, in case there ‘s another production made in the future”. And, actually, that’s all they can do.

They recently had that ATI DC-9 featuring a painful mirrored angle of the fuselage colour stripe. It happens and it is a mess.
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Default Re: Herpa releases 05/06 2021

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Still waiting for a Piedmont Henson or Allegheny Commuter Dash 7!
Endorsed on both counts one million percent..
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