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Old 01-18-2021, 10:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Popped up on ebay at a reasonable BIN recently.

Western Models 1/200 Avro Ashton
This "starred" in the film "Cone of Silence" and the book of the same name.



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nice catch Steffi. didn't know WM made that one!!
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The kind of model I would like to buy in kit form.

Interesting aircraft and interesting model.

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What a great find.. I would have snapped that one up for sure too..
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Great looking airplane. Just read it took a crew of 5 to fly her.
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Great looking airplane. Just read it took a crew of 5 to fly her.
Today two pilots can do the whole job.

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I got this model last December at the Alameda Point Antiques Faire. The guy selling it just shrug his shoulder when I asked him about it. I shot it next to a Comet 1 for comparison.
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nice catch Steffi. didn't know WM made that one!!
That is 'Western UK.' Of all the strands from the original Western models, this is the one that now comes exclusively from ARD. Some are new finishings of old Western castings, but from time to time they come up with a new mold, such as this one. I still cant't figure out who is making these.
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Nice acquisition. Very reminiscent of the Avro Jetliner.

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This model came off ebay, there were two listed. I got one. The other sold immediately as well. Seller "MJ Stephens" who happens to sell Western Models....quelle surprise! I'll leave you to your own conclusions
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This is where I normally say..."another one you beat me to!"

But on this occasion after seeing this under the sold items, like a London bus another one came along.

After the original WM was closed in 2007, the new WMs came out with certain models made in China using tooling/printing.
Then WM UK appeared using the old castings of types not being done by the new company. Then "new" types followed so
assume these have been sitting on Mike’s shelf for some years.

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.... Then WM UK appeared using the old castings of types not being done by the new company. Then "new" types followed so
assume these have been sitting on Mike’s shelf for some years.

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And this is certainly true for the SE 2010 Armagnac which was briefly seen some years ago.

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And this is certainly true for the SE 2010 Armagnac which was briefly seen some years ago.

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Yes here it is sold for nearly $500.00 Funny item description misidentifies it as being a Britannia.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Western-Mod...p2047675.l2557
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Apart from this Ashton & the Armagnac, there's also been...

Atlantic, Super DC-3, Martin 404, Martin XB-51, Nord 262 & Tu 134 plus a shortened Britannia 100 & Viscount 700 and hybrid Argonaut, DC-7B
& a turboprop Super Connie.

Must have been a big shelf!

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Glad you bagged the other one Argosy.
Interesting comparing the Ashton to the Avro Canada C.102 Jetliner. A lot of similarities. And another model there is a ready market for ?
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Yes here it is sold for nearly $500.00 Funny item description misidentifies it as being a Britannia.
So much money asked for this model is not realistic.
I prefer mine ... home made.

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Glad you bagged the other one Argosy.
Interesting comparing the Ashton to the Avro Canada C.102 Jetliner. A lot of similarities. And another model there is a ready market for ?
Thanks Aviaction. You can imagine my surprise when another one appeared.

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I prefer mine ... home made. Jean Pierre.
Me too. Would love to get hold of some of these new WMUK in kit form.

This is my first WMUK having only collected the originals. The finish on this is pretty good and the price was the clincher.

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Argosy, a Nord 262?? seriously?? I flew them both with Allegheny Commuter and National Sunking back in the day. I had no idea Mike did a Nord 262??
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Argosy, a Nord 262?? seriously?? I flew them both with Allegheny Commuter and National Sunking back in the day. I had no idea Mike did a Nord 262??

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... and the Allegheny Commuter decals are available from F-RSIN, they can be rescaled at your convenience in the 1:200 scale.

Hence the interest to have these models available in kit form.

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Nice acquisition. Very reminiscent of the Avro Jetliner.

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Yes, it is. Last time I dug into my Jetliner reference, I did't notice AVRO flogging the design specs to anyone else. I'll have to look again, as they do look awfully similar.

That said, there are some notes in the Wikipoodia entry that acknowledges said similarity:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Canada_C102_Jetliner
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... and the Allegheny Commuter decals are available from F-RSIN, they can be rescaled at your convenience in the 1:200 scale.

Hence the interest to have these models available in kit form.

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Many years ago, I flew on a Nord 262 of Cimber from LGW to BLL. A noisy aircraft I seem to remember.

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The use of glue is a lot less with metal kits which only have a few parts to assemble.

Saying that, the recent Herald kit did need a fair amount due to the way it was cast with several separate bits.

But when I did a Carvair, I only used glue for the engines & landing gear. The fuselage was in two parts but the
join line coincided with the cheatline so a case of just screwing together.

It's the painting & decals which take the time.

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Could we have pictures of your Carvair ?

I remember that this aircraft was a regular visitor at Deauville airport in the very early 1960s.

The very last I saw was at Johansbourg airport in the 1990s.

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Could we have pictures of your Carvair ?

I remember that this aircraft was a regular visitor at Deauville airport in the very early 1960s.

The very last I saw was at Johansbourg airport in the 1990s.

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Hi Jean Pierre.

Here's the Carvair. I did another one for a fellow ex-BAF friend

Before my time but remember them fondly as my Dad flew them.

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It's great to hear that your Dad flew these Carvairs.

The forum is flooded with photos of Airbus and Boeing aircraft, pictures like yours and those published by Aviaction are always welcome.

Thank you both of you for sharing them.

I am working on a model that takes us back in the 1930s : a Junkers G 38.
Unknown for many of us, it was in its time the biggest commercial aircraft in the world.

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