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Old 01-10-2021, 12:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys Happy New year to All.

Noticed that Inflight 200 really improved their 747's minus the mold for the wings etc. But recently the latest batch again has a huge weird error with the cockpit windows.

I must say the KLM 747-400 ph-bfa was made best with the recent air india 747. 1:200.

But the latest Thai 747 release and AEROLINEAS ARGENTINAS BOEING 747-400 Diecast Plane Model LV-AXF and the j/fox Lufthansa 747-400 which is also part of inflight have this weird slope on the cockpit windows..

Notice klm cockpit windows don't have this indented slope...neither does the air india 747 or the new aer lingus which were the best batches so far!

and not to mention again high window line happening again!!!


seems like sometimes they get it right sometimes wrong...or do they use two different molds at times??

look at the photos

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should we write to inflight 200 again???
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I've noticed that too. I don't know if it's the cockpit window printing. Gemini has the same "forehead bulge"..
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Also the cockpits look way too small.
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Has anybody pictures of the last JFOX B747-400 LUFTHANSA "D-ABVZ" (I mean of the real model… not the pictures from the manufacturer)
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Has anybody pictures of the last JFOX B747-400 LUFTHANSA "D-ABVZ" (I mean of the real model… not the pictures from the manufacturer) [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG]
Just found this but I saw a front view on Instagram a couple of days ago. Didn't look nice...

The QF and BA are Gemini
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Hmm no model is perfect, some tend to forget these are made by people

it's fine to mention these things and it is good to let the Model companies know what they did wrong, all you can do is hope they apply fixes to these things.

As for me, meh I accept the models as they are to be very honest with ya all.
As said nothing is perfect, thus for that regard I am glad I am not that nitpicky

But I can understand that such small problems can annoy some, but then again if you seek perfection, go scale model kits from Trumpeter, Zvesda, Tamiya or Hasagawa, with these, you as the modeller in command can make them as accurate as possible, with diecast metal models this is a long shot in the high hopes of some minds.
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Hmm no model is perfect, some tend to forget these are made by people

it's fine to mention these things and it is good to let the Model companies know what they did wrong, all you can do is hope they apply fixes to these things.

As for me, meh I accept the models as they are to be very honest with ya all.
As said nothing is perfect, thus for that regard I am glad I am not that nitpicky

But I can understand that such small problems can annoy some, but then again if you seek perfection, go scale model kits from Trumpeter, Zvesda, Tamiya or Hasagawa, with these, you as the modeller in command can make them as accurate as possible, with diecast metal models this is a long shot in the high hopes of some minds.
Well said it mirrors my thoughts exactly..
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been said a Million times 'THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THEEE PERFECT MODEL.
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Hmm no model is perfect, some tend to forget these are made by people

it's fine to mention these things and it is good to let the Model companies know what they did wrong, all you can do is hope they apply fixes to these things.

As for me, meh I accept the models as they are to be very honest with ya all.
As said nothing is perfect, thus for that regard I am glad I am not that nitpicky

But I can understand that such small problems can annoy some, but then again if you seek perfection, go scale model kits from Trumpeter, Zvesda, Tamiya or Hasagawa, with these, you as the modeller in command can make them as accurate as possible, with diecast metal models this is a long shot in the high hopes of some minds.
Sorry, this sounds like an excuse for some manufacturers not to move forward in development and permanently being resistant to hints by the collectorate. We are not talking about a major mould retooling, it is just some upscaling of one printed part and the positioning of it. Should be a pretty small issue to solve. But just keep saying "You'll never find the perfect model" cannot be the solution, people say NG is pricey, but they invest the money not only in new moulds but also in their rework when needed and they seem to be thankful for collectors hints - maybe GJ should look into that too.
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Sorry, this sounds like an excuse for some manufacturers not to move forward in development and permanently being resistant to hints by the collectorate. We are not talking about a major mould retooling, it is just some upscaling of one printed part and the positioning of it. Should be a pretty small issue to solve. But just keep saying "You'll never find the perfect model" cannot be the solution, people say NG is pricey, but they invest the money not only in new moulds but also in their rework when needed and they seem to be thankful for collectors hints - maybe GJ should look into that too.
Hey no need to be sorry, all good man

But if that is your opinion, then so be it, this may not be the hobby for you if you tend to be so nitpicky of such a minor not so important issue.

Do you really think companies will listen to such minor reports? Personally I don't think they will and they are right not to.
You are simply wasting time on such tiny things to me you would be, as a company I would focus on much larger things than something so small.

Nothing is perfect and it doesn't have to be, the models are fine as they are, from a distance I won't see such things most people won't so it's of no big deal.

Take my Gemini Jets 200 SAA/SAL B747-444 ZS-SAX & Inflight 200 SAA/SAL B747-244B ZS-SAO for example:

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Oh, you can be sure that this is my hobby. All the models I've got so far exactly met my hopes/expectations. I tend to inspect the models I buy BEFORE I buy them - so this is kinda my personal quality control (which is a little problem in these days, so I only can do research on the net).

You seem to forget how much we pay for these models. And Inflight (to stay on topic) can do a better job - on the IF200 TMA 742 they did an amazing job concerning artwork. It is the consistency of the accuracy which is lacking. Therefor you need a good quality control, and no hint like "glue some kits yourself and you will see what a bad job you'll be doing by yourself." That is not realy appropriate - I am not getting paid for doing such for any customer and I do not have the production options to work with. But, yes if I would do I would care about delivering a good quality, because I won't be selling any of my models because there'll always be one better manufacturer when I am only offering low quality standard.

And I wouldn't just relent on hoping that "somebody" will buy my models - I wouldn't be satisfied with that.

Just to give an example for what manufacturers are able to do: Somebody here was asking for a BlueDart 752F (see pic below) - and the next month a manufacturer releases two of them with and without winglets. Not my personal cup of tea, but it shows the diversity and the clain of other manufacturers to themselves how to comunicate with the collectorate and to pay attention what even a small group of collectors might like to see being released.

GJ and Inflight offer incredible products, don't misunderstand me. Their classic 737s and 727 are outstanding. But even when they would stick to the US market, the use of these moulds is extremely poor compared to the vast amount of options compared to the amount of years the moulds are around. GJs philosophy is misleading as they copy models Inflight did before (and vice versa), but they pull on the brakes when it comes to classic airliners - Do you have a valid explenation for that? Inflight200 did an amazing job on the A310 mould, which cannot be improved much, at least for my understanding. And I am eagerly awaiting their 767 moulds. It would be nice if they'd reduce the period of time a little between announcement and availability of their models.

But thats way off-topic....
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On the other hand there are manufacturers who "improve" models which are spot on in terms of accuracy.

https://www.eztoys.com/aeroperu-doug...ale-1-200.html (nosecone!!)

Why did they put an A320 nosecone on that DC-8?

http://www.aviationretaildirect.com/...-pluna-5n-has/

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Oh, you can be sure that this is my hobby. All the models I've got so far exactly met my hopes/expectations. I tend to inspect the models I buy BEFORE I buy them - so this is kinda my personal quality control (which is a little problem in these days, so I only can do research on the net).
I have been modeling since 1986 and collecting die cast models for the past 12 years jets & Civil aircraft included I don't do much different and I am sure others don't either.

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You seem to forget how much we pay for these models. And Inflight (to stay on topic) can do a better job - on the IF200 TMA 742 they did an amazing job concerning artwork. It is the consistency of the accuracy which is lacking. Therefor you need a good quality control, and no hint like "glue some kits yourself and you will see what a bad job you'll be doing by yourself." That is not realy appropriate - I am not getting paid for doing such for any customer and I do not have the production options to work with. But, yes if I would do I would care about delivering a good quality, because I won't be selling any of my models because there'll always be one better manufacturer when I am only offering low quality standard.
But you do seem to forget that these diecast models are made by people that rarely have knowledge of aircraft, they work for a boss or multiple boss'es, they get less than minimum wages and are mostly paid poorly and you expect perfection, really man?

Forget it, such things are seen as high hopes, have you even been to one of these companies and seen how things really go there, I am starting to think you have no real idea of that.
And no I don't seem to forget what you pay for these models I too been collecting Models for over 123 years and well if I have to compare these models are very affordable compared to the 9000+ USD Servers I buy and builds along side this hobby, i know what expenses can do to minds.

What most people tend to forget that not ONE model is perfect, forget it, and such nitpicky threads like this one of the windshield is imo a waste of time, companies have greater things on their minds, it's fine it's noticed but there are worse things tbh, the reason I Mentioned them top four modelkit brands is because you can get a more accurate result with those over these company built diecast models.

Take this Modelsvit Scale 1:72 Tupolev Tu-144S for example it's the CCCP-77102 from the 1973 Paris Airshow incident:
http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/...30.html#982730

What a modelkit can get you is the purest of accuracy and details, okay that is a scale 1:72 kit but yea as example it's a jolly good one
And that is the one reason why I mentioned them modelkits, they just hard to beat

This scale 1:72 Modelsvit Tu-144 modelkit is around 385 Euro's and that is just the modelkit no paints no other needed things.
And there are much greater expenses when it comes to such a model, just the amount of time needed to get it done right, that will make any diecast model look cheap, I can assure you.

The reason I don't do model kits is due to the heavy arthritis like pains I have, coming from scale 1:72 to 1:200 was a downgrade for me to be very honest, but I have accepted it over time.

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GJ and Inflight offer incredible products, don't misunderstand me. Their classic 737s and 727 are outstanding. But even when they would stick to the US market, the use of these molds is extremely poor compared to the vast amount of options compared to the amount of years the molds are around. GJs philosophy is misleading as they copy models Inflight did before (and vice versa), but they pull on the brakes when it comes to classic airliners - Do you have a valid explanation for that? Inflight200 did an amazing job on the A310 mold, which cannot be improved much, at least for my understanding. And I am eagerly awaiting their 767 molds. It would be nice if they'd reduce the period of time a little between announcement and availability of their models.

But thats way off-topic....
Companies like to compete with each other some may copy or left alone improve designs it's what companies have been doing for many years even in the Graphics card market , one I am well known in and yes I am the owner of the official x-3dfx community, we were 3dfxgamers.com from 1995 to 2000, it's a similar world to be honest.

Off topic or not its fine I know what you refer to, and for now just Boeing 747's, got 38 B747's @ 1:200 atm.
That took me 7-ish years just collecting them 38 B747's, being 100% disabled such things take more time than most would do over it, but it's doable.

So just to let you know as collecting goes in it's whole, I have been been collecting various things since 1983, if I have to be honest it doesn't matter what one collects, vintage toys from the 1980's, diecast aircraft models, Graphics cards, to Star Wars Starfighters, RC Ships you name it, everything has it's values high & low.

So please don't do as if I am new to this That was something I did read as an insult, I have done these hobbies for longer than the existence of this entire forum.
It's best not to assume such things, you'd mostly be wrong and inaccurate yourself in the end

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This discussion leads nowhere. Inflight did a bad job on this particular batch imo. They can do better and they did. There is no need for a **** fight.
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This discussion leads nowhere. Inflight did a bad job on this particular batch imo. They can do better and they did. There is no need for a **** fight.
Then mail Inflight instead of posting that here perhaps?

You are basically wasting your time crying like some baby yoda over some tiny mistake lmao dude come on, I am sure you can do better than that by not being the wrong example, you are making yourself look silly tbh

If I were IF200, GJ200 or JCW, I would simply ignore posts like these, topics like this one create nothing but unwanted negativity for a very minuscule thing, such a tiny mistake that is like the end of the world for you types and hey if you don't like a model who says that you have to buy it?

As millions have said over and over again not one model is perfect you all expect way too much, but then again some just need to be nitpicky and cry about small things.. oh well your choice
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Whatever... 🙄

It's not impossible Inflight will correct this batch for the picky crying baby yodas 😅.

If I remember correctly they did a second run of Air New Zealand DC-10 and LH A310..

If not it doesn't matter to me. I got my picky Herpa Version (JC Wings mould).

I'm out now. I now have to sort the mixed nuts. I see two almonds touch. *picky*

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Just found this but I saw a front view on Instagram a couple of days ago. Didn't look nice...

The QF and BA are Gemini

when you purchase these models can you take a photo on the angle I request?
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Whatever... 🙄

It's not impossible Inflight will correct this batch for the picky crying baby yodas 😅.

If I remember correctly they did a second run of Air New Zealand DC-10 and LH A310..

If not it doesn't matter to me. I got my picky Herpa Version (JC Wings mould).

I'm out now. I now have to sort the mixed nuts. I see two almonds touch. *picky*
A few years back, JFox released a second batch of Cathay Pacific L-1011s, after they botched up the font of the "Super Tristar" titles.

So I second the opinion, to be picky about some things. In the end it's a lot of money these models cost and as customers you have a right and can demand that some consitency and professional QC takes place, which unfortunately is missing a few times too often.
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Whatever... ��

It's not impossible Inflight will correct this batch for the picky crying baby yodas ��.

If I remember correctly they did a second run of Air New Zealand DC-10 and LH A310..

If not it doesn't matter to me. I got my picky Herpa Version (JC Wings mould).

I'm out now. I now have to sort the mixed nuts. I see two almonds touch. *picky*

Actually, Inflight have done 3 Air New Zealand DC-10's and don't worry about my request. ZK-NZS was the best. I have a Air New Zealand 747-4 to post of Inflight200 December release so I will do a new post to see what you guys think
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Oh, you can be sure that this is my hobby. ....
I could have sworn that creating wish list was your hobby, but there you go stupid me. Who would have thought you buy a one model every five years which is perfect to share with us
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This one got corrected as well.
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Talking about the white colour at the wing root, I assume?!
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This one got corrected as well.

Please don't think I am having a go because I am not. Also not defending Inflight200 747 tooling. I would like to know what you think about the Air New Zealand though.
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I have been modeling since 1986 and collecting die cast models for the past 12 years jets & Civil aircraft included I don't do much different and I am sure others don't either.


But you do seem to forget that these diecast models are made by people that rarely have knowledge of aircraft, they work for a boss or multiple boss'es, they get less than minimum wages and are mostly paid poorly and you expect perfection, really man?

Forget it, such things are seen as high hopes, have you even been to one of these companies and seen how things really go there, I am starting to think you have no real idea of that.
And no I don't seem to forget what you pay for these models I too been collecting Models for over 123 years and well if I have to compare these models are very affordable compared to the 9000+ USD Servers I buy and builds along side this hobby, i know what expenses can do to minds.

What most people tend to forget that not ONE model is perfect, forget it, and such nitpicky threads like this one of the windshield is imo a waste of time, companies have greater things on their minds, it's fine it's noticed but there are worse things tbh, the reason I Mentioned them top four modelkit brands is because you can get a more accurate result with those over these company built diecast models.

Take this Modelsvit Scale 1:72 Tupolev Tu-144S for example it's the CCCP-77102 from the 1973 Paris Airshow incident:
http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/...30.html#982730

What a modelkit can get you is the purest of accuracy and details, okay that is a scale 1:72 kit but yea as example it's a jolly good one
And that is the one reason why I mentioned them modelkits, they just hard to beat

This scale 1:72 Modelsvit Tu-144 modelkit is around 385 Euro's and that is just the modelkit no paints no other needed things.
And there are much greater expenses when it comes to such a model, just the amount of time needed to get it done right, that will make any diecast model look cheap, I can assure you.

The reason I don't do model kits is due to the heavy arthritis like pains I have, coming from scale 1:72 to 1:200 was a downgrade for me to be very honest, but I have accepted it over time.


Companies like to compete with each other some may copy or left alone improve designs it's what companies have been doing for many years even in the Graphics card market , one I am well known in and yes I am the owner of the official x-3dfx community, we were 3dfxgamers.com from 1995 to 2000, it's a similar world to be honest.

Off topic or not its fine I know what you refer to, and for now just Boeing 747's, got 38 B747's @ 1:200 atm.
That took me 7-ish years just collecting them 38 B747's, being 100% disabled such things take more time than most would do over it, but it's doable.

So just to let you know as collecting goes in it's whole, I have been been collecting various things since 1983, if I have to be honest it doesn't matter what one collects, vintage toys from the 1980's, diecast aircraft models, Graphics cards, to Star Wars Starfighters, RC Ships you name it, everything has it's values high & low.

So please don't do as if I am new to this That was something I did read as an insult, I have done these hobbies for longer than the existence of this entire forum.
It's best not to assume such things, you'd mostly be wrong and inaccurate yourself in the end

Peace.
This only reflects my personal opinion on the topic, and I did not intend to insult you in any way. And believe me, I considered the Trumpeter 144, but then I thought of my skills concerning model kits back in the day, and I remembered again why I switched to diecast collecting 25 years ago.


The interesting thing is, that we won't lead this discussion when the colors on the Thai did not match the exact shade used on the actual aircraft. I already figured out, that most collectors here care much more about colors than moulds (saying that I wonder why nobody complains about the cradle mould used for the wingroot once again).

For some you could print a brick in accurate Delta widget colors and it would sell.

Just in case you did not notice that: I am different.
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I could have sworn that creating wish list was your hobby, but there you go stupid me. Who would have thought you buy a one model every five years which is perfect to share with us
I have got a couple of Inflight SPs aswell But you know it is not all about 747s ...
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This only reflects my personal opinion on the topic, and I did not intend to insult you in any way. And believe me, I considered the Trumpeter 144, but then I thought of my skills concerning model kits back in the day, and I remembered again why I switched to diecast collecting 25 years ago.


The interesting thing is, that we won't lead this discussion when the colors on the Thai did not match the exact shade used on the actual aircraft. I already figured out, that most collectors here care much more about colors than moulds (saying that I wonder why nobody complains about the cradle mould used for the wingroot once again).

For some you could print a brick in accurate Delta widget colors and it would sell.

Just in case you did not notice that: I am different.
Quite wrong, you barely read what I posted I bet

Most collectors I met here love sharing their collections and don't tend to complain about minuscule issues you are constantly trying to do repeat here.

Also a Mold cost over 27.000 USD why don't you buy one for Inflight 200 and fix the issue yourself since money doesn't seem to be your issue
Just on how you talk so easy about it every time you post, lmao.

None of the models have accurate colors, that you new approach?
I think you were better off making models then and no the Modelsvit Tu-144 is the most accurate Modelkit of it out there, the Trumpeter one isn't bad either despite I have a Tu-160 I still need to build some day.

But then again that coming from friends of mine that help renovate CCCP-77106 & CCCP-77110 hehe, I am sure they know it better anyway They said that Modelsvit nailed it, but anyways.

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Hmm but that is now what AussieJets asked?
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Quite wrong, you barely read what I posted I bet

Most collectors I met here love sharing their collections and don't tend to complain about minuscule issues you are constantly trying to do repeat here.
I remember a dozen posts proving the contrary (starting with this thread).

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Just on how you talk so easy about it every time you post, lmao.
IF you read my post more carefully, you would have seen I wrote:

But, yes IF I would do I would care about delivering a good quality, because I won't be selling any of my models because there'll always be one better manufacturer when I am only offering low quality standard.

I do not buy a pricey collectors item to fix its (obvious) faults - thats not my job as a customer.

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I remember a dozen posts proving the contrary (starting with this thread).

If you read my post more carefully, you would have seen I wrote:

But, yes IF I would do I would care about delivering a good quality, because I won't be selling any of my models because they'll always be one better manufacturer when I am only offering low quality standard.

I do not buy a pricey collectors item to fix its (obvious) faults - that's not my job as a customer.

That's not my approach - its other peoples approach, not mine.
Hmm let's see then, only 12 people of the 29619 members, whelp that is just small grain of people lmao

Such types have no effect on me nor add any positivity to any kind of forum, always the same whiny types posting the same loads of nonsense or making useless them wish list threads every five years, hmm where did I read that again? hmm ah yea that.

But I am glad, most people don't always agree with your so called methods, your approach isn't a friendly one, it's more like annoying in ways.

it does no one any good, just useless info that goes nowhere, it's kind of uhm repetitive, you're a long shot for your hopes my man.

Try to enjoy for what these models represent, no model is perfect yet al are beautiful and are good enough to maintain the memories one has with them.

Also why the bolded text, see I do read your threads I just don't need to bold out things but I did fix all the typo's you made

Just FYI, I always read posts or I would not be able to make a reply that makes sense, you too don't read what others write in return, so there is that as well, you only post on what you believe is right, there is a word for something like that, but I won't type it here.

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Hi Gold Leader.

I like when people point out quality issues and obvious mistakes by the manufacturers. Why not? Has nothing to do with being nitpicky.
But I do resent your hostility and comments verging on personal insults towards some of the members here.
Why don't you just let them speak their minds?
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I like when people point out quality issues and obvious mistakes by the manufacturers. Why not? Has nothing to do with being nitpicky.
But I do resent your hostility and comments verging on personal insults towards some of the members here.
Why don't you just let them speak their minds?
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Has anybody pictures of the last JFOX B747-400 LUFTHANSA "D-ABVZ" (I mean of the real model… not the pictures from the manufacturer)
Received mine just a few days back.

The cockpit window looks a bit odd, and the passenger windows are placed a little bit high.
Other than that, it's a great model!






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Thanks my friend… your pictures helped me a lot (and this model is now canceled, but this is not a big deal as I still have some other diecast LH B744's ).

BTW it is alway hard to say GOOD BYE to these Beautiful birds

See here some pictures of the last sunset for the "Mühlheim a. d. Ruhr" at her home base, when we prepared her for her last trip to Mojave
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Thanks my friend… your pictures helped me a lot (and this model is now canceled, but this is not a big deal as I still have some other diecast LH B744's ).

BTW it is alway hard to say GOOD BYE to these Beautiful birds

See here some pictures of the last sunset for the "Mühlheim a. d. Ruhr" at her home base, when we prepared her for her last trip to Mojave
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I like when people point out quality issues and obvious mistakes by the manufacturers. Why not? Has nothing to do with being nitpicky.
But I do resent your hostility and comments verging on personal insults towards some of the members here.
Why don't you just let them speak their minds?
It's because they seed senseless negativity so disagreeing with their crying is all of a sudden insulting them and they don't insult others with their cries , a very strange way of reading me, but you are wrong most most obviously.

It's fine you don't like something mentioning it won't make it any better won't it, best to keep such negative things to yourself, especially useless topics like this one not one model is perfect not one model will ever be perfect.
Some people just never seem to learn that, but it has nothing to do by insulting people I just don't agree with their senseless whines, just a bunch of aerospace engineering wannabe's that is all I am seeing and that is a shame.
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Are all quite hostile and negative remarks as is the overall tone of your posts. You seem to be responding with the same 'senseless negativity' that you are complaining about.

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a very strange way of reading me, but you are wrong most most obviously.
If you don't want to be 'read' that way, you need to recognize that is exactly how you are coming across.
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Are all quite hostile and negative remarks as is the overall tone of your posts. You seem to be responding with the same 'senseless negativity' that you are complaining about.



If you don't want to be 'read' that way, you need to recognize that is exactly how you are coming across.
Make sense you do not misread me you have, you only read the negative words and not the entire post, please go home and redo your studies thanks :P

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This is going a bit out of hand here.

We have to understand people need to point out flaws on things that they pay money for. This is a way to vent out frustration that their wanted model was not perfect and probably have some hope that the manufacturer will read the topic to fix the next one. To be honest , only one or two used to read the forum threads but i dont see them any more . Dont know why and really dont want to know.

At the same time no model is perfect all has some flaws or the other.

As long as folks are not bashing photo threads , these type of threads are allowed but the conversation should be nice and polite. Care for your fellow collectors and their sentiments. Each person has their own criteria.

lets get along but I will lock the thread if I see hints of/ direct insults being thrown at each other.
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I was trying to help you, but will refrain from doing so anymore.
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I was trying to help you, but will refrain from doing so anymore.
But you didn't help me, if you helped me I would of accepted your aid, but your post didn't read as helpful for me, which read more as confusing or troubling

A you insulted me for saying that English isn't my main language, I grew up in Australia from 1980 to 1990 I been in Netherlands from 1990 to 2021, this very day, I have autism & dyslexia I do tend to misread people easily, my methods of posting isn't the same like most others maybe?

Even I always try my best to word out what my broken mind is trying to review me.
From my own perspective your post read has not friendly hence my confused reaction.

And no I am not using that as a defense at all before people try to tell me so, I am saying it as you may not understand on how I read or word things, I know unfriendly when I see it sadly, I am not a success in this world, just a mere existence.

In the end i am the one explaining people on why my methods of posting is very different to that of those, most won't even understand, which I respect.

And I have nothing against you I just don't understand your ways of posting.
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I understand that members who are posting photos of their models want to earn some nice words and get some respect credits. But what I like on this forum is that you get any kind of feedback.
Those members who are always complaining about other members being nitpicky shouldn't join those threads. Simply go to Instagram and join those 'butt crawlers' who find everything awesome what manufactures are doing.

Inflight did some mistakes on printings like "Flye to Srve" on their Landor BA 744. The also wrote "avlon beach" on their VA 777. If someone is getting upset about those minor things I understand calling that picky. But not what the thread opener posted here.

And I think everybody is picky to degree.
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This is just an example. In my opinion it's not picky to say that this is not okay...

I'd return that immediately. I won't say these are made by human and mistakes can happen.. Sorry I won't..
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Wow... that’s extreme...

And the quality control has to hear:

“You’re fired!”
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This is just an example. In my opinion it's not picky to say that this is not okay...

I'd return that immediately. I won't say these are made by human and mistakes can happen.. Sorry I won't..
That's really crass. Wouldn't have thought that's even possible?
Which manufacturer is this?
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I'd return that immediately. I won't say these are made by human and mistakes can happen.. Sorry I won't..
That's really crass. Wouldn't have thought that's even possible?
Which manufacturer is this?
JC Wings. Probably just one of a kind but the owner just had bad luck.
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Those members who are always complaining about other members being nitpicky shouldn't join those threads. Simply go to Instagram and join those 'butt crawlers' who find everything awesome what manufactures are doing.
Well said, FlyingDog. As long as criticism is addressed in a proper and kind (i.e. reasonable) manner, anyone of such a discussion forum has to accept and live with it. That’s the natural meaning of discussion. Even if criticism is or seems to be exaggerated (which is in the eye of the beholder), anyone should be capable of dealing with it in a reasonable manner.

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Inflight did some mistakes on printings like "Flye to Srve" on their Landor BA 744. The also wrote "avlon beach" on their VA 777. If someone is getting upset about those minor things I understand calling that picky. But not what the thread opener posted here.
I would be disappointed too. Don’t think I would‘ve cancelled my order but I would surely drop Inflight a line about the mistake - just for feedback and further improvements. You never know what the manufacturer is doing with the hints but it’s the only way to draw their attention to certain things. Some do care - some do not. That’s the way it is.

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That is horrid. Something that bad should have been rejected by the manufacturer.
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I once spoke to my retailer, and he said "somebody will buy it" - similar issue: cockpit being crooked when looking from the front. "Somebody will get it, not caring about this issue or decaling it." And that makes manufacturers believe accuracy can be neglected.
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Old 01-15-2021, 02:14 PM   #50 (permalink)
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I once spoke to my retailer, and he said "somebody will buy it" - similar issue: cockpit being crooked when looking from the front. "Somebody will get it, not caring about this issue or decaling it." And that makes manufacturers believe accuracy can be neglected.
I have no doubt of that. But my point was that it should have never gotten out to a retailer. You'd think a manufacturer would want to protect their good will and reputation.
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