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Old 11-24-2020, 04:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default NEW Western UK + Sky Classics Models

just in case some may be interested. ARD have some new WESTERN U.K + SKY CLASSICS models available. obviously not cheap.


Western Models UK Available Now

CA4BE | Western Models UK 1:200 | Douglas DC-6B British Eagle G-ARMY
£169.95
WM046 | Western Models UK 1:200 | Aviation Traders ATL-98 Carvair Aer Lingus Irish International
£149.95
CA16G | Western Models UK 1:200 | Douglas DC-4 Aer Turas EI-AOR
£169.95
WM061 | Western Models UK 1:200 | Avro 706 Ashton 3 WB493
£179.95
CA18A | Sky Classics 1:200 | Avro York BOAC G-AGSN
£149.95
CA22A | Western Models UK 1:200 | Shorts 360 Jersey European G-OBHD
£129.95
CA22X | Western Models UK 1:200 | Shorts 360 Loganair G-BMAR | is due: January 2017
£129.95
CA22M | Western Models UK 1:200 | Shorts 360 BMA G-BMAR
£129.95
CA22 | Western Models UK 1:200 | Shorts 360 House Demonstrator Colours G-ROOM
£129.95
SKY CLASSICS Available Now

SC047 | Sky Classics 1:200 | DH 106 Comet 4C Dan Air London G-BDIW
£159.95
SC051 | Sky Classics 1:200 | DH 106 Comet 4B BEA Airtours G-ARGM
£159.95
SC086 Sky Classics 1:200 D.H. Comet 4 British Airways 'Apprentice Trainer' G-APDT
£139.94
SC189 | Sky Classics 1:200 | Bristol 170 Freighter BEA Air Freight G-AICS
£139.95
SC253 | Sky Classics 1:200 | Fokker F27 Channel Express G-CEXF
£149.95
PB001 | Sky Classics 1:200 | BAC-111-500 One-Eleven BEA G-AVMZ, 'Super one-eleven'
£149.95
MS021 | Sky Classics 1:200 | BAC-111 BEA G-AVMH (Skyline model) [-]
£159.95
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Old 11-25-2020, 03:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I regret that the WM UK models are not available in kit form, economically speaking it may be more profitable to sell a few castings than expecting to sell a very limited number of all finished models which are not the reflect of today standards.

I have already asked Mike Stephens, he evaded the question.

This is not a negative comment, simply I would like to say that some of his castings are very good but even if his products have the charm of the first original models, I am afraid that this not enough to generate the sales the initial models enjoyed twenty five years ago.

I made a similar request to SMTS, the answer was a loud and clear NO.

Your thoughts ?
With time and patience some models can turn out to be very nice and unique.

Maybe I am the only one with this idea, in that case I apologize for disturbing.

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Old 11-25-2020, 04:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi JP. don't really collect 200 scale anymore. apart from the odd one or two. collect military now. commercial aviation has got boring. now virtually all barrel tube clones. just posted these in case someone else maybe interested in them.




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Old 11-26-2020, 07:56 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Maybe I am the only one with this idea, in that case I apologize for disturbing.
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You’re not alone JP.

Despite the low runs & high prices of these “new” WM UK models, they do appear to sell & must be making money to some extent.

An earlier thread mentioned a Super Connie kit that had been released way back which was an attempt to cater for the DIY person.
For some reason this wasn’t pursued, lack of demand? Maybe this was also seen as taking away finished model sales.

Some new castings have been appearing. Would love to have the opportunity to get my hands on some to finish off. I did manage
to get 2 Carvair kits from Mike and a painted example a few years ago. My other customs were donor models.

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Old 11-27-2020, 08:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I regret that the WM UK models are not available in kit form, economically speaking it may be more profitable to sell a few castings than expecting to sell a very limited number of all finished models which are not the reflect of today standards.

I have already asked Mike Stephens, he evaded the question.

This is not a negative comment, simply I would like to say that some of his castings are very good but even if his products have the charm of the first original models, I am afraid that this not enough to generate the sales the initial models enjoyed twenty five years ago.

I made a similar request to SMTS, the answer was a loud and clear NO.

Your thoughts ?
With time and patience some models can turn out to be very nice and unique.

Maybe I am the only one with this idea, in that case I apologize for disturbing.

Jean Pierre.
Quite agree J-P. You are being too diplomatic. The nose on those BAC One-Elevens look like they have been in a pencil sharper and why would anyone pay £169.95 for one in BEA red square livery these days, when JC Wings made this beautiful 1/200 model of this with aerials and clear nav lights for a fraction of the price.

https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com...ne-eleven.html
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Old 11-27-2020, 10:48 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Your thoughts ?
With time and patience some models can turn out to be very nice and unique.
Maybe I am the only one with this idea, in that case I apologize for disturbing.
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I understand your request Jean Pierre. You have been able to show us some very nice finished models and I am sure you will be able to finish these models to a higher standard than offered by WM. I am not sure everyone has that ability though and for those collectors these models may still be of interest, even though they are high on price and not quite up to today's standards.
On the other hand, I am also pleased that there are still companies who make an effort to provide us with unusual models in unusual liveries. As Robertjon said, collecting civilian airliners these days in 1:200 can be a bit monotonous, with quite a bit of "copy paste" action going on.
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Old 11-28-2020, 04:44 PM   #7 (permalink)
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more added!!!!!


Western Model Releases With Restock For December-2020

CA4U | Western Models UK 1:200 | Douglas DC-6A Germanair D-ABAZ
£179.95
CBU21 | Western Models UK 1:200 | Douglas C-118 (DC-6) Liftmaster US Marines 128426
£169.95
CA3A | Western Models UK 1:200 | L-1049 Super Constellation Avianca Colombia HK-163
£189.95
CA-38C | Western Models UK 1:200 | Tupolev TU-134A CSA OK-EFK
£189.95
CA-4U | Western Models UK 1:200 | Douglas C-118 (DC-6) Liftmaster USAF 33303 HQ SHAPE Melsbroek
£169.95
CA4AF | Western Models UK 1:200 | Douglas DC-6A Air Ferry G-APNP
£179.95
CA33A | Western Models 1:200 | Curtiss C-46 Commando Lufthansa N9891Z
£149.95
WM061 | Western Models UK 1:200 | Avro 706 Ashton 3 WB493
£179.95
CA-2 special | Western Models UK 1:200 | Douglas DC-7B Pan Am reverse scheme N51704
£179.95
CA18A | Sky Classics 1:200 | Avro York BOAC G-AGSN
£149.95
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That Lufthansa C-46, N9891Z, is now C-FAVO and still operates with Buffalo Airways in Yellowknife. It has been previously released by Western in 1/200 with a polished finish, so I find this release curious. I have been up for a flight on this specific aircraft, but I’d prefer the polished version if I can find one. I already have their release of C-FAVO in the current Buffalo Airways livery.

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I wasn’t aware they did a Bristol Freighter. I’d take a Canadian one, especially in either Wardair or Hawkair colours. TCA, Norcanair, or any of the various RCAF liveries would also be welcome additions.
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It has been previously released by Western in 1/200 with a polished finish, so I find this release curious.
It is a bit confusing the silver painted Lufthansa C-46 is a re-release of the original decaled WM & is made in the UK under the WM UK brand.

Whereas the polished C-46 is one of the new re-tooled WMs made in China.

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Old 11-29-2020, 07:48 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Thanks robertjohn for highlighting these models. Makes a change from all the Boeing/Airbus stuff...

I see 2 new WM UK DC-6Bs (Germanair & Air Ferry) have appeared.

Have been looking at the Pan Am DC-7B in the reverse tail scheme. It has been fitted with the smaller DC-6 wing so has the right wingspan
& this particular a/c didn't feature the saddle tanks. The engines being P&W so don't quite look like the Wrights. It does have the correct 4
bladed props and spinners. Unfortunately the fuselage remains the longer DC-7C with the 3 forward windows iso 2.

A good attempt but I would have to get the saw out.

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I regret that the WM UK models are not available in kit form, economically speaking it may be more profitable to sell a few castings than expecting to sell a very limited number of all finished models which are not the reflect of today standards.

I have already asked Mike Stephens, he evaded the question.

This is not a negative comment, simply I would like to say that some of his castings are very good but even if his products have the charm of the first original models, I am afraid that this not enough to generate the sales the initial models enjoyed twenty five years ago.

I made a similar request to SMTS, the answer was a loud and clear NO.

Your thoughts ?
With time and patience some models can turn out to be very nice and unique.

Maybe I am the only one with this idea, in that case I apologize for disturbing.

Jean Pierre.
It is a curious idea you propose, Jean Pierre, which I too think would appeal to those who engage in DIY projects. I agree that this is something WM should consider as a sideline in addition to their regular offerings. Choose a casting, then pick from a healthy assortment of unique decal sheet choices to fit the casting. Pity they were so undiplomatic to a simple a suggestion.

I have to agree, £130-190 is A LOT to fork out, especially given the naïve-looking castings. True, they have a charm which, depending on the aeroplane, appeals to even me. But to pay that amount, one has to be pretty dedicated.

Interesting idea, all the same.
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SC086 Sky Classics 1:200 D.H. Comet 4 British Airways 'Apprentice Trainer' G-APDT is one I am interested in.
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SC086 Sky Classics 1:200 D.H. Comet 4 British Airways 'Apprentice Trainer' G-APDT is one I am interested in.

There is this one by ARD models at £75? plus £42 shipping including taxes
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/British-airways-apprentice-training-DH-106-comet-4-G-APDT-1-200/303779727057?hash=item46baaec6d1:g:iwIAAOSwxB5fu7f R
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I wasn’t aware they did a Bristol Freighter. I’d take a Canadian one, especially in either Wardair or Hawkair colours. TCA, Norcanair, or any of the various RCAF liveries would also be welcome additions.
I would take a Wardair too.
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I would take a Wardair too.
Sign me up for one as well as any RCAF
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