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Old 10-07-2020, 05:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Last week two new Friendships arrived in my cabinet!
F-27-200 PH-KFC, sporting the NLM livery ‘72/’76 and F-27-100 PH-NIV prototype F1, or at least something that looks like it.

The deficiencies of the PH-KFC model was already mentioned by Marc (Maarlandair) in post https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com...er-2020-a.html



The PH-NIV is from the Herpa stable. At first it looks nice, but into the detail there are some flaws. The PH-NIV (named after “Nederlands Instituut voor Vliegtuigontwikkeling”) was on 24 november 1955 the first flying prototype, without pressure cabin, with various wooden parts, no radome and a fuselage that was 0.91m shorter than the production variants. The F1 prototype had only 8 side windows.
These details are not supported in the Herpa model (it has a standard fuselage, a ‘sharp’ nose and 10 windows on either side).

Actually, the model looks more like the F-27-500 that is on display at the entrance of the Fokker Logistics Park near Schiphol airport. This aircraft also sports the initial PH-NIV livery. But if Herpa wishes to celebrate the 65th anniversary with this static model, than at least the fuselage should be a little longer, to depict the 1,5 meter longer fuselage of the mark-500 and it also should have 11 side windows.

Even though the original PH-NIV sported a KLM livery during the first test flights, KLM had already indicated in the early 1950s that it had no interest for the F27. Under political pressure, only TAA and Aerlingus had placed orders for the F27, KLM decided to order to two Friendships. After delivery in 1959 (aircraft 51 and 53), these were leased directly to the Iranian Petroleum Exploration and Production Company, which bought them three years later.



The first F27 in commercial service for KLM was in 1966, at the start of regional subsidiary NLM (Nederlandse Luchtvaart Maatschappij). The first two aircraft (PH-KFA and PH-KFB) were former Troopships (also with ‘short’ nose) that were made suitable for passenger transport. These aircraft sported the Henrion livery with crown logo and horizontal stripes. PH-KFC was in 1972 the first own F27 for NLM. Shortly after entering service she received the new blue top livery. As Marc stated, the blue cheat line is a bit too bright. Also the blue top is way to dark. The correct blue tint for KLM models is always an issue. Most diecast model receive the ‘new’ blue (PMS 299C), regardless the era. All blue top KLM aircraft before approx 1996 had a more lighter and turqoise blue (unconfirmed PMS 2985).



So the colors and modelling of the Gemini F-27 in NLM Cityhopper livery (1976/1991) is by far the most accurate.
https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com...riendship.html

Well, that is my criticism. To bad the manufacturers are not striving for 100% perfection. Especially given the price. For the rest these little gems are still a must have, as they bring back a lot of memories. I was lucky enough to hop on these aircraft many times during my childhood. I do recall the shrieking noise of the Dart engines and the brown/bright orange interiors!



Today the NLM is not very well known anymore in the world of aviation. Founded in 1966 it was a partly government and partly a business enterprise to start domestic services in the Netherlands. Since our country is small and the rail and road infrastructure is excellent, the NLM was doomed from the start. To survive NLM changed their strategy in 1976 and started to feed the KLM fleet at Amsterdam Schiphol Airport from other European destinations. Also the name was changed to NLM ‘Cityhopper’. This strategy turned out to be a success and the name continued to live on until today as ‘KLM cityhopper’. The F27 was the main equipment of NLM during the late sixties, seventies and eighties. After phasing out, The Friendship was replaced by the only type suitable; the Fokker F50, as seen on the right in my cabinet (apologies for the glass panels of the cabinet just in front of the model). This operation continued until KLM phased out the last turbo props 10 years ago (final KLM F50 flight March 27, 2010). KLM cityhopper now operates a large fleet of Embraer Jets.

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Old 10-07-2020, 05:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Very nice review VJ with nice background info.I understand the flaws Herpa made with this model. As you stated, still a must have, I hope to receive her next week. The KFC arrived here around a weak ago but I had to send it back due to two broken props. Hope to receive the replacement soon and hope it arrives in one piece. Overall the quality of Herpa's F27 is superior to me. BTW, I like youre clean line up in your cabinet. Makes the models stand out really well.
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Good to see AC did not screw your copy of the NLM F-27. I got two AC200 F-27, and I was very exited about receiving them. But the exitement was gone when I had a look at the cockpit shape of the models. Good to see they can do a better job than on mine. Well, bad luck.
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Thank you VJ for this exhaustive analysis, the kind of comment that must not be ignored by manufacturers.

If I were one of these manufacturers I would not hesitate to ask for the advice and the opinion of professionals who know very well the aircraft they plan to make a model of.

Better models, big sales, return on investment guaranteed.

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Good to see AC did not screw your copy of the NLM F-27. I got two AC200 F-27, and I was very exited about receiving them. But the exitement was gone when I had a look at the cockpit shape of the models. Good to see they can do a better job than on mine. Well, bad luck.
Ouch! That Hurts... I was lucky to read the post of Maarlandair first, so I was warned in advance. Before purchasing at the LHS I thoroughly checked the model, like I did a real preflight walk-around.


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Thank you VJ for this exhaustive analysis, the kind of comment that must not be ignored by manufacturers.

If I were one of these manufacturers I would not hesitate to ask for the advice and the opinion of professionals who know very well the aircraft they plan to make a model of.

Better models, big sales, return on investment guaranteed.
Thats it, dear Jean Pierre. It makes the difference between and intrinsic drive and professional passion on one side and profit maximization on the other side.
That's also why there is a regularly misunderstanding between pilots and management within an airline, isn't it.

stay safe, VJ
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A very good, well researched post, with good pictures. I was involved with the Air UK F27s in my work for many years. A very good looking and reliable airliner.

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A great review VJ.
I enjoyed the history as well.

These Western releases and this Herpa release are indeed not the best repesentation of the real thing. The props are also a little loose on their attachment I noticed. Since I only collect KLM / NLM birds, PH-NIV is not part of my collection, but omissions as obvious as too many windows and a difference in length is "sloppy".

You may not have bought PH-SAR, which was released at the same time as PH-KFC by Western. It comes in KLM livery. I believe it only flew in that livery in 1968. Do you happen to know more about that?
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I remember seeing NLM as a kid when my dad worked for KLM. Never flew on them, but was lucky to fly on a Hughes Airwest FH-227 when they were around. Can't go wrong with those screaming Darts.

Great collection of Friendships!
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You may not have bought PH-SAR, which was released at the same time as PH-KFC by Western. It comes in KLM livery. I believe it only flew in that livery in 1968. Do you happen to know more about that?
Indeed, I didn't bought any of the F27 in Henrion's horizontal striped livery until now.
PH-KFA (Western Models AC21979) was a -300M 'Troopship' (former military reg. C-9) with the short nose, while the model has the longer nose housing the radome. And it had blue anti-glare paint iso black as painted on the model. Also the title 'Friendship' on the wing is incorrect. This was only sported on the prototypes and some factory aircraft. Luckily, the larger entry doors are correct!

And PH-SAD + PH-SAR are not impressive models, judging from the available photos. Certainly not for the first class price for which they are sold. They also had blue anti-glare paint on the nose iso black. At least the longer nose is correct on these two models, because these aircraft were equipped with a weather radar. But than the far end of the nose should be painted matt black and they didn't on the model...sigh.

At least they have the 'KLM' titles correct. After bankruptcy of Schreiner Airways on October 1st 1967, KLM bought SAD and SAR and made them available to NLM. This ment a doubling of the fleet, so PH-SAR was already sold as a surplus aircraft within a few months (it was registered to KLM from december 1967 until March 1968) and became the aircraft with the shortest NLM history.

On the contrary PH-SAD had the longest NLM history. From 1968 all the way up to 1990. In fact: the PH-SAD (cn 10272) was the Friendship with the longest time written in the Dutch Registration book! She was flown first on 26 March 1965 as PH-FGO. On 5 April 1965 the aircraft was delivered as PH-SAD to Schreiner Airways. The Fokker F27 was handed over to the NLM on 29 June 1968 (where she finally got het 'NLM' titles and christened "Evert van Dijk", named after a former KLM captain and first Dutch pilot to cross the Atlantic in 1930). After the Friendship was withdrawn from use by NLM Cityhopper in November 1990, PH-SAD was sold to Fokker Aircraft and registered with Aircraft Financing and Trading BV, Amsterdam. The registration PH-SAD was cancelled on 17 November 1993, after the aircraft was sold in Argentina and registered LV-WEB. After being withdrawn from use at Ezeiza in December 1996, the aircraft was broken up.
The Gemini version of this F27 is in my eyes by far the best model and I love it! It even has the characteristic lager heat exchanger air intake ducts just after the main entrance door.

It would be great to see an NLM F27-500 arriving soon (PH-KFI, PH-KFK, PH-KFL). But than please with a real longer fuselage (its just 7,5 mm in 1/200[IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG])

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Fokker F-27 Friendship my favorite turboprop airplane.
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I love aviation history and I still live and learn every day and thank you VJ for this post. It just goes to show how hard it can be for a manufacture such as Fokker of a great air frame to sell to their very own masterpiece to their home airline KLM. The F27 was very popular here in Australia and was the first aircraft I ever flew on. A lot of airlines owe their success to the F27.
Any manufacturer that has F27 tooling should consider these three things.


(1) It is clear some work needs to be done on some tooling
(2) Tampo printing cockpit windows need to improve on some of the manufactures
(3) Decent packaging to get any model home safe and sound.
Note:- Blister packaging no longer required for those manufacturers that still use it
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It just goes to show how hard it can be for a manufacture such as Fokker of a great air frame to sell to their very own masterpiece to their home airline KLM. The F27 was very popular here in Australia and was the first aircraft I ever flew on. A lot of airlines owe their success to the F27.
Isn't it ironic? There was no great "Friendship" between Albert Plesman (founder of KLM) and Fokker after all. After some fine wooden wing Fokker airliners during the '20s, KLM was more interested in metal Douglas aircraft during the '30s. And that sentiment continued well into the 1980s, when the Fokker100 was introduced into KLM's main fleet.

Initial sales for the F27 were slow, which led to Fokker seeking financial support from banks and from the Dutch government in order to maintain production of the airliner while more customers were sought.
In 1960, demand for the F27 increased rapidly as multiple airlines (and the Dutch air force) placed sizable orders for the type. This is in part due to the spreading reputation of the type, having been found by operators that, in comparison to its piston-engine wartime counterparts like the DC-3, the F27 possessed superior levels of efficiency, enabling faster flight times, greater passenger comfort and a higher level of reliability.
Like a fine wine, the 'Friendship' got better with age.

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Nice collection! Very informative and explanatory thread. Thank you

If anyone is interested on how the JC Wings release of the Fokker Friendship F-50 is presented, please see the below thread

https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com...42#post2791142

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Good to see the F.27 getting some attention.

It seems odd that this type seems so hard to get right in model form. I still think my old Skyline British Midland is better than the current crop.

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Good to see the F.27 getting some attention.

It seems odd that this type seems so hard to get right in model form. I still think my old Skyline British Midland is better than the current crop.

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Thanks for the elaborate update VJ. I was not sure when it was operated. Its short history at KLM / NLM explains why SAD is everywhere on the internet and SAR is not.
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I have a problem with the cross section of the F 50 forward fuselage ...

I have two F 50s made by Herpa and clearly, the forward fuselage has a circular cross section.
On the real aircraft, from the pictures I can see it is ovoid ...

Despite this, the F 50 models are very nice.
This was corrected on the F 27 models.

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The forward part of the F27/Fokker 50 fuselage indeed is had an oval shape. This was mainly in order to give enough head space in the flight deck (with a raised cabin floor) and to adapt the forward fuselage to the main wing spar, that was placed as high as possible, in order not to block the cabin aisle.


Herpa Wings 570930


Western Models AC219730


HER200-556897


Herpa HE552714. Indeed a full circular fuselage... and a slightly tilted tempo print. I am learning new and less pleasant details about this (much sought after) model. It once more brings my model of PH-SAD to the top of the list!


Back to real life. This is the aft section of the first prototype PH-NIV today. This is the only part that is still intact and is now part of the collection of the Aviodrome Museum in Lelystad. Here you clearly can see the last part of transition in the fuselage from oval just before the attachment point of the wing section, to a full circle near the tailplane.

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Many thanks VJ for this analysis.

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