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Old 09-22-2020, 09:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Inflight200 A330 / A340 tail shape

I'm considering getting the Inflight200 South African A340-200 thats due for release but am not sure the shape of tail on the A330 / A340 moulds looks 100%. Any opinions on this?
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Old 09-23-2020, 05:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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They are 100% ok on JCW A340-200 . I never saw an IF 200 one yet
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looking from the photos i have my doubts about the correct shape of the tail on inflight`s A330 and A340....i donot own any of them so don`t know how they look in real though...
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Still wondering if the A333/A342/A343 share the same vertical stabiliser with the A310 in 1:1. Inflight did a good job with their A310s.
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The tails of both versions are very similar in size but what i have noticed is that the landing gear and engines are much smaller on the IF 200 Airbus A330/ 340 models IMO..
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Still wondering if the A333/A342/A343 share the same vertical stabiliser with the A310 in 1:1. Inflight did a good job with their A310s.
This has already been discussed some time ago and to clear any doubts, I published a few Airbus documents.

A 340-200, -300, A 330-300 and A 310 share the same vertical fin, same dimensions.

The fin of the A 330-200 looks very similar but is different and to add some confusion, depending on the serial number, you can find two aircraft with different vertical fins, the one fitted on the last production aircraft is smaller by 50 centimètres.

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I just started a comparison thread of IF and JC/GJ A330's:

https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com...330-300-a.html

But since you're specifically asking about tails:



Aeroflot is IF, Aer Lingus is GJ.

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The tails of both versions are very similar in size but what i have noticed is that the landing gear and engines are much smaller on the IF 200 Airbus A330/ 340 models IMO..
Definitely correct on the landing gear, these two have different engine types so it's difficult to directly compare that. And while the tails may be the same size, clearly there's a difference in how the model sits that changes things.

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This has already been discussed some time ago and to clear any doubts, I published a few Airbus documents.

A 340-200, -300, A 330-300 and A 310 share the same vertical fin, same dimensions.
If you can share the height dimensions, I can check to see which is more accurate here.

EDIT: nevermind, I found the original thread where you posted them...unfortunately the original comparison pictures are gone from the OP's posts, so I'm glad I just posted the new thread...checking the dimensions now...

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The fin of the A 330-200 looks very similar but is different and to add some confusion, depending on the serial number, you can find two aircraft with different vertical fins, the one fitted on the last production aircraft is smaller by 50 centimètres.
So, around 1/4 cm in 1:200, or less than 1/8 inch - I wouldn't blame the model manufacturers for ignoring this difference.
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If it can help ...

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This has already been discussed some time ago and to clear any doubts, I published a few Airbus documents.

A 340-200, -300, A 330-300 and A 310 share the same vertical fin, same dimensions.

The fin of the A 330-200 looks very similar but is different and to add some confusion, depending on the serial number, you can find two aircraft with different vertical fins, the one fitted on the last production aircraft is smaller by 50 centimètres.

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There it is! Been looking for this comment! Even google can’t help me! Thank you very much Jean Pierre!

For the A332, earlier versions feature a taller and thinner tail. Do the A332s from 2004 or 2005 and beyond share the same tail as those on the A345/A346?

For Inflight, this might be the missing puzzle to achieve the better A333/A343 models. Though the winglets look toylike on the inflight. Hogan nailed the winglets.
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...checking the dimensions now..
So, from what I can tell, the IF tail is 4.5cm tall, the GJ one is 4.4 - they should be 4.15cm according to Jean Pierre's docs. However, the overall height from ground to top of tail (not shown on JP's docs) should be around 8.4cm - the IF is much closer to this at about 8.5 vs the GJ at 8.0. I know none of this directly addresses the *shape* of the tail, which is what OP asked about, but it is a fairly visible difference.
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Thanks everyone, very interesting, still not certain, though, on the accuracy of the tails
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A few more documents showing the tails of the A 340-500 and -600, they are the same and can be compared to the A 330-200 after modification, they are exactly the same.

Note that "some metal" is missing at the lower part of the A 340-600 rudder, we have the same on the -500.

It is to avoid any contact between the rudder and the elevator in case of full deflection of the flight controls.

Dennypayne had a question about the height of the A 340-300, I attach a document.

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Sorry for not going through all posts, but it's that Aeroflot tail posted above that's way way way off.
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Sorry for not going through all posts, but it's that Aeroflot tail posted above that's way way way off.
Hi Alex, what specifically is off about it? Dimensionally, it's closer to the docs that Jean Pierre has posted than the Aer Lingus one is. Perhaps 1mm too wide at the top, but IMO that's not that noticeable. I see that the top back corner is too rounded as well - it should be a sharper point. But I guess I'm missing anything else that makes it as far off as you are saying.
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The Inflight/Aeroflot shape looks too parallel, not enough taper, regardless of height. It looks to me more like a 707 fin minus the aerial. I recall having seen a diagram on this forum explaining how the larger A330-200 fin was created by Airbus by placing plugs chordwise as well as vertically. Unfortunately I cannot find the post but did find a sort-of-related link/discussion,


https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com...-arrivals.html
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Hi Alex, what specifically is off about it? Dimensionally, it's closer to the docs that Jean Pierre has posted than the Aer Lingus one is. Perhaps 1mm too wide at the top, but IMO that's not that noticeable. I see that the top back corner is too rounded as well - it should be a sharper point. But I guess I'm missing anything else that makes it as far off as you are saying.
Just goes to show that a caliper alone doesn't do the deal.
It's much like ACA343X said, add to that the aft fuselage maybe. Can't really point my finger, but my photographical memory just tells me "this is a random, unidentified tail, but not an Airbus".
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Well knowing that A342s tails are the same on A333s’ and A343s’ i am very pleased with the JCW 1:200 A342. I suggested to them to plan the SABENA first colours. The Radome and the nose shape are very fine ( I found the IF 200 A343 nose a little shuby) . Plus the A340-200 is my favorite airplane of the time being .
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