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Old 09-15-2020, 01:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My new Gemini 200 Delta MD-90 has large tarnish or haze spots in the clear coat on the bare metal belly. It has much more than any other Gemini model I have except for the first American MD80 released in 2009. I'm hoping it isn't the same issue as the American MD80 as that is totally ruined now. I can't replace it since it is sold out already. I don't want to pay a fortune for one on eBay. Does anyone else have the same issue with their new MD90? I can live with it as long as it doesnt get much worse.
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My new Gemini 200 Delta MD-90 has large tarnish or haze spots in the clear coat on the bare metal belly. It has much more than any other Gemini model I have except for the first American MD80 released in 2009. I'm hoping it isn't the same issue as the American MD80 as that is totally ruined now. I can't replace it since it is sold out already. I don't want to pay a fortune for one on eBay. Does anyone else have the same issue with their new MD90? I can live with it as long as it doesnt get much worse.
Curious, but do you have pictures that you can show us?
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I'll try to take some a bit later. Thanks!
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Oh no, mines on the way right now, I hope it's fine
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I just looked at mine. I see some. Artificial light vs. natural light. I didn't really see it until I started looking at it from different angles.


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I just looked at mine. I see some. Artificial light vs. natural light. I didn't really see it until I started looking at it from different angles.


Thats exactly what I am talking about! Not good! Mine are in the same exact spot on both sides of the fuselage.
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Old 09-15-2020, 04:28 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I just checked mine which is still in it's box and has the beginnings of tarnishing in the same spots. I wonder if that is where the person held it without gloves during manufacturing and got oils from their hands on it.
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I just checked mine which is still in it's box and has the beginnings of tarnishing in the same spots. I wonder if that is where the person held it without gloves during manufacturing and got oils from their hands on it.
That's exactly what I was thinking. It's too bad. We are serious collectors who spend the kind of money we do on these models and they let this kind of quality pass. Now its sold out, and we have no way of getting another one.
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I inspected several of these models and did not see anything resembling those images. Does it seem to be residue on top of the surface or abrasion of the polished surface?
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Thats exactly what I am talking about! Not good! Mine are in the same exact spot on both sides of the fuselage.
Oh no, that is terrible. I would say to contact Gemini Jets or a retailer for a replacement, but considering: a) there’s no more available in most places, b) Gemini Jets doesn’t respond to such requests for whatever reason (you have a chance of being blocked by them (true story) if you complain directly to them; I wouldn’t recommend doing this), then I’d say you’re outta luck.


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That's exactly what I was thinking. It's too bad. We are serious collectors who spend the kind of money we do on these models and they let this kind of quality pass. Now its sold out, and we have no way of getting another one.
That’s what I’ve been saying too! I collect 1:400 models, and the constant issues of detached pieces are so annoying with those models. I know it’s a simple fix most of the time, but we’ve been charged more and more by the companies for these models, so our expectations for a premium product are higher than they were before.
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I inspected several of these models and did not see anything resembling those images. Does it seem to be residue on top of the surface or abrasion of the polished surface?
It looks like abrasion of the polished surface. I wish I could fix it.
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Yep, that's from someone at the factory touching it with his/her grubby little paws.
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I hope it’s not to common, I hope I didn’t just pay $100 to get a tarnished model
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I hope it’s not to common, I hope I didn’t just pay $100 to get a tarnished model
Exactly, I know how you feel! But, I want this model as I flew on this exact aircraft in this scheme. It was my first flight on an MD-90. I really have no choice but to keep it since it is sold out.
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Can the tarnished models just be advertised as that during the pre-order? The name on the box, whether it’s Gemini or Inflight, would send pictures of the product from the factories to retailers who then puts them on their websites and in the descriptions.

The business practice of these pre-orders and the fools we are for buying into it is gross. Count me in as soon to be sucker for having had pre-ordered this one days before seeing the images in this thread.
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Can the tarnished models just be advertised as that during the pre-order? The name on the box, whether it’s Gemini or Inflight, would send pictures of the product from the factories to retailers who then puts them on their websites and in the descriptions.

The business practice of these pre-orders and the fools we are for buying into it is gross. Count me in as soon to be sucker for having had pre-ordered this one days before seeing the images in this thread.
You may get one that isn't tarnished. I had my retailer inspect my model, but he didn't see the tarnish. To be fair, I didn't notice it until the 2nd or 3rd day after I received the model. But, it sure was disappointing once I did notice it. I'm keeping mine since I really want the model. Hopefully, I can find one that isn't tarnished sometime in the future.
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I know from previous experience, that the entire run will not be stricken with this tarnish. Way back, when the Gemini 200 PSA B727 was brand new, my retailer had 3 in stock. When I got home, the belly had this tarnish in one spot. I returned it the next day, the other 2 in stock were fine.
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That’s very good news to hear! I must have ordered one of the last stocked examples at a retailers store. Returning it probably won’t be an option though because shipping would cost mega $$. But you gave me hope that mine may not be tarnished. I see you’re point... it looks like a finger print, unlike the American Airlines MD-80 or almost every early Inflight DC-10 where the entire fuselage is ruined.
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I hardly pre-order and found this one a couple weeks back. Mine seems fine (for now) and the little sticky hands factory PHO eater must have been on break! Thing with this release like others that are polished is the white in certain light has that Ivory tint as seen in G200 stock pic. In natural light looks okay. Good way to notice is look at engines and compare to fuselage. Worst one was the G200 PA 727-200 non-billboard. In this one fuselage was/is Ivory and tail is bright white!
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I wonder if a polishing compound like Tamiya will get the tarnish out. It feels and looks like it’s the clear coat itself that is tarnished. I’m afraid to try it unless I know it’ll work.
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