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Old 07-26-2020, 08:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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With the release of Gemini’s KLM MD-11 (PH-KCK) and again some cleaning to do, I thought I’d bring the KLM Douglas fleet together for some pics.

KLM was the only airline which has flown all Douglas types in regular commercial services from the DC-2 (arrived 1934) to the MD-11 (left 2014). A single DC-1 was delivered to TWA (1933) but was also used to further develop the airframe, which eventually became the DC-2. Before it was sold on to Iberia it received an extensive maintenance check at KLM in Amsterdam. Unfortunately the airframe was lost in 1940.

I have all types in my collection which have been used by KLM and am still working on two models.

A few of my personal DC highlight:

The DC-2. To proof the reliability of flying long distance, KLM entered the Amsterdam – Melbourne air race in 1934 (held because Melbourne celebrated its centenary) in the “Uiver”. They finished second in 90 hours and 17 minutes.

A Douglas C-47 Skytrain (DC-3) in wartime colors, initially to mark its neutrality during WWII. I made it from a Hasegawa kit.

A Douglas C-54B Skymaster (DC-4) reallocated to KLM after the war for civilian use. I am also building a C-54A, a KLM aircraft in Netherlands Government livery (due to flight limitations in the aftermath of WWII) and waiting for the delayed Vintage Flyer decals from California. Both are rebuilt IMC models.

The DC-5, only at KLM for two years and never flew in The Netherlands but went straight to its Asian operation (Indonesia) KLM was the only commercial operator of the type (because of the outbreak of WWII, many other airlines cancelled their orders). This is actually a 3D printed model.

A Douglas DC-6B, which is to be accompanied by a DC-6A Liftmaster soon I hope. The -6A will be a rebuilt IMC model.

Of the DC-8 I have several types, the -33, the -53, the -55, the -55 Jet Trader (rebuilt Hasegawa kit and started as a regular -55) and two -63’s. The Jet Wings -53 is fairly unique I think.

Of the DC-9 I have several types as well, the -10, the -15, two -32’s and a -33RC. My first flight ever was on a KLM DC-9, which luckily was made as a model many years later (PH-DNC). KLM’s last DC-9 (number 25 and number 1.000 for Douglas) was named Santa Monica (all others had European names) in recognition of the hometown of the McDonnell Douglas factories.

The classic DC-10. The best looking trijet i.m.o. The first DC-10 I flew on was of BCAL. About 30 years later I ended up in a club on Bali where the tail section of that same plane is now preserved.

The MD-11 is less of a classic than the DC-10 to me, but forever marked the end of the line for McDonnell Douglas’ civil aviation program (after the MD-90 became the 717) Fortunately Boeing kept part of the McDonnell Douglas logo alive.

Hopefully there will be some more Douglas releases in the future to add to the collection. I still have some remaining wishes 😊
Hope you like the pics.

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Very interesting post, great fleet, great collection.

Thank you very much Marc for sharing these pictures.
I don't forget that you also have pre WWII aircraft in your collection.

I love these old prop liners...

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Very interesting post, great fleet, great collection.

Thank you very much Marc for sharing these pictures.
I don't forget that you also have pre WWII aircraft in your collection.

I love these old prop liners...

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I would exchange the KLM 747 fleet for a handful of well made pre-war Fokkers and Koolhovens anyday Jean Pierre.
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Nothing beats MD/Douglas in KLM livery.
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Very nice collection. I like the shortz DC-9 especially.
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Really interesting post, huge fleet, G R E A T collection love tose MD-11s, tks 4 sharing!
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That is awesome! Very pretty models and the backbone of KLM's history. In many ways, the current Boeing management is a continuation of the (not so strong) MDD management.
I am not sure if that is wise thing, but at least you can say that this line of models continues to this day.

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That’s an awesome diversified fleet, Maarlandair. Thanks for sharing. I manor that much into propliners (and even not into turboprops) but I love it when someone puts together the history of a traditional airline such as KLM (and I do like KLM very much, by the way).

Did you already find a decent L-188 for your collection? I am pretty sure you already got those Fokker models of KLM and NLM...
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Stunning collection Marc! Enjoyed the pics very much. A beautiful DC5 is even part of your collection! The DC10 from herpa is also very nice, too bad that they don't use that great mold anymore. Don't hesitate to post some more pics!!
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Wow! Nice KLM collection.
Can you please post some closeups of the DC-5? I want one.
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Very nice collection! Thanks for sharing your photos!
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That’s an awesome diversified fleet, Maarlandair. Thanks for sharing. I manor that much into propliners (and even not into turboprops) but I love it when someone puts together the history of a traditional airline such as KLM (and I do like KLM very much, by the way).

Did you already find a decent L-188 for your collection? I am pretty sure you already got those Fokker models of KLM and NLM...
Thanks, Yes, the HM L-188 Electra is part of my fleet, although I would prefer finding the Western Models model one day.

I have some pre-war KLM Fokker models (all custom made) and most of the Fokker NLM fleet.
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Stunning collection Marc! Enjoyed the pics very much. A beautiful DC5 is even part of your collection! The DC10 from herpa is also very nice, too bad that they don't use that great mold anymore. Don't hesitate to post some more pics!!
Thanks Tom, it was actually fun to get them out togehter, also a first for me. The fleet is back into the hangar, but one pic left I did not post I think.
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Wow! Nice KLM collection.
Can you please post some closeups of the DC-5? I want one.
This DC-5 was printed by shapeways in 3D
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At one point a metal version was also made by Helmet200 Aircraft, but they unfortunately are no longer in business.

I will post some pics of it soon.
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That printed DC5 is nice! Did you paint her yourself and how did you get the decals for it?
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Looking forward to the Airbus fleet....
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That printed DC5 is nice! Did you paint her yourself and how did you get the decals for it?
I did the painting and part of the decals myself.
Part of the decals I got secondhand online for a Helmet DC-5.
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Looking forward to the Airbus fleet....
That would be only 4 models in total (1 A310, 2 A330-200's and 1 A330-300). Not (yet) a great line-up and also lacking some real history
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I did the painting and part of the decals myself.
Part of the decals I got secondhand online for a Helmet DC-5.
Thx Marc, if you have some more pics of the DC5, please post them
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Amazing fleet Marc if it’s not a secret how many planes do you have in your collection?? May I dare to ask which one ( if you had to choose only one ) is closest to your heart and why. Talking about DC legends I’ve stumbled upon that unbelievable story involving DC9 type that actually turned out to be true
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesna_...87?wprov=sfti1
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That is an unbelievable story indeed.
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Great McDonnell Douglas fleet Marc and just part of the rest of your awesome KLM collection. Well done and thanks for sharing.
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Amazing fleet Marc if it’s not a secret how many planes do you have in your collection?? May I dare to ask which one ( if you had to choose only one ) is closest to your heart and why. Talking about DC legends I’ve stumbled upon that unbelievable story involving DC9 type that actually turned out to be true
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Hi Mriya, I have nearly 100 KLM and KLM Cityhopper models, a few are the same model, only in a different paintscheme. In most cases, there is at least a difference in sub-type, engine type or use (pax, combi or cargo).

Closest to my heart are some custom made models from the starting days of KLM in the early 1920's. These are a Fokker FII, FIII, FVII and an FVIII

Thanks for sharing the story about Vesna Vulovic. Quite a story indeed.
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Ooeew how I love these little Fokkers!
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Fantastic line up Marc! It is a pleasure to see these pics. I would have expected to see the MD11 farewell scheme (with all these airplane types mentioned on the fuselage) in this series?
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Hi Mriya, I have nearly 100 KLM and KLM Cityhopper models, a few are the same model, only in a different paintscheme. In most cases, there is at least a difference in sub-type, engine type or use (pax, combi or cargo).

Closest to my heart are some custom made models from the starting days of KLM in the early 1920's. These are a Fokker FII, FIII, FVII and an FVIII

Thanks for sharing the story about Vesna Vulovic. Quite a story indeed.
Wow! 1:200 scale?
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Fantastic line up Marc! It is a pleasure to see these pics. I would have expected to see the MD11 farewell scheme (with all these airplane types mentioned on the fuselage) in this series?
Would be nice to have that MD-11 Thijs, but I am not prepared to pay the price this model goes for these days. Recently there was one for sale again.
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Yes they are.
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Thank you for your time to take that beautiful Fokkers out I must say I am really impressed how elaborate collections I see on this forum a lot of aviation history. I am really interested in early 20th century ocean liners as well ( Titanic and her two sisters that many never actually heard of) in particular. I actually have a 3rd class RMS Titanic replica boarding ticket. The thing is I am really interested how much traveling by sea or plane in that era actually costed. Boarding that gorgeous Fokkers in their hay day and travel by air was indeed reserved for the top brass. And just like those mighty steam ocean liners those prop planes had that gorgeous and graceful lines and each one was handcrafted to the last detail what an oasis of memories for today’s cost cutting and mass produced half baked imported stuff. So do you have everything roughly in 1/200 scale or you have various scales?? If you have time you can easily upload more pictures of your fleet I am always down for seeing an amazing collection!! I am guessing you have displayed a few models of your vast fleet and after a while you replace them with different types?? Thank you again...
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Thank you for your time to take that beautiful Fokkers out I must say I am really impressed how elaborate collections I see on this forum a lot of aviation history. I am really interested in early 20th century ocean liners as well ( Titanic and her two sisters that many never actually heard of) in particular. I actually have a 3rd class RMS Titanic replica boarding ticket. The thing is I am really interested how much traveling by sea or plane in that era actually costed. Boarding that gorgeous Fokkers in their hay day and travel by air was indeed reserved for the top brass. And just like those mighty steam ocean liners those prop planes had that gorgeous and graceful lines and each one was handcrafted to the last detail what an oasis of memories for today’s cost cutting and mass produced half baked imported stuff. So do you have everything roughly in 1/200 scale or you have various scales?? If you have time you can easily upload more pictures of your fleet I am always down for seeing an amazing collection!! I am guessing you have displayed a few models of your vast fleet and after a while you replace them with different types?? Thank you again...
Thanks Mriya,
I only collect models in scale 1:200 and sometimes I update if a better model is released. The custom models stay in my collection and are usually not being replaced by others. Collecting the models before 1940 is indeed a challenge, but that makes collecting interesting to me. Several classic modelmakers have stopped making models these days or have passed away. Sometimes I make a model myself, but I am not nearly as skilled as some members here, nor do I have the time.
Occasionally I pick a theme and post some pics. See the threat below for some more pics of the Fokkers.
Flying the F-VII from Amsterdam to Batavia (Indonesia) in the lates 1920's costed about EUR 23.000 in today's money. It was a 14 day trip, so a awesome holiday in itself.

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Only if we could travel back in time in those aviation pioneering days...
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For now the Aviodrome will have to do Tom, but hopefully sooner than later a visit to https://airandspace.si.edu/ will again be possible.
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Amazing collection of Fokker and Douglas planes in that thread what a beautiful designs indeed. Thanks for sharing. Totally agree what has been said about my beloved 747 design wise in that thread. I’ve also found out a firm called Artitec was mentioned and pointed out as an old planes manufacturer well I know that company very well and many others as well that I think a few fellow collectors could benefit from. My by far biggest and oldest hobby I’m into is a huge model railway ( a whole room ) I build it with my brother since 2000 and I must say we’re taking it slow ( only work on it when we’re both off work which tends to be quite challenging these days as we both work two jobs ). But nonetheless we’re progressing. And in the link you have one of the biggest US model railway store that has all top European manufacturers lined up together. There you have a lot of military stuff and accessories... I’ve wanted to start collecting planes for my entire life and now I finally took the plunge and decided to go with a 1/200 scale it’s a sweet spot with size, in hand weight ( bulky) and detail. Very much like I went with 1/87 HO scale in model railway and never looked back. So here I am glad to see so many great enthusiasts coming together and sharing their unique models!! A fact we’re a collectors means steam locomotives, old school prop planes and three/ quad jets will remain in our hearts and collections standing beautiful forever on display for future generations. But in railroading unfortunately there’s been quite a decline in recent years among younger people so many older train collectors gave an entire collection of serial or custom made commissions to other railway club members and not leaving it to their kids which clearly showed zero interest into hobby. So with that great custom made models I see here I do hope you have someone who knows and is able to appreciate the rarity and historic importance aka heritage those models do actually carry. I’ve seen many great train models being sold at ‘garage sale’ for a few Euros youngsters had no idea that they were actually selling very rare models made by oldest and highly praised German model railway manufacturer Marklin. And those trains sell for hundreds of euros. But actually do a research about something you’re not familiar with today is too much of an effort you know a tight and fast schedule of posting nonsense of various degrees on social media preoccupied a society these days. Oh well... Back to business here’s the retailer I talked about

https://www.reynaulds.com/

Manufacturers as Artitec, Artmaster perfect for WWII diorama makers, Busch, Preiser 1:200 scale figures, REI models they work with Busch. If you have any wishes or ideas to make an aviation diorama these manufacturers could come really handy to take my statement into perspective:

Here’s the biggest and probably best ( German engineering ) model railway layout in the world it’s in the Guinness world record book as well it’s called Miniatur Wunderland located in Hamburg Germany and here’s the section you’re all been looking for Enjoy...

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They keep adding stuff so new things and types each year including bee haha!!

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Thanks for sharing your love for modelling Mriya, both for railways as well as aviation. The Youtube videos are indeed amazing. I have seen them before but they remain interesting to watch.

There are some fellow collectors who have made great diorama's for their planes. I am sure you have seen some of them. My models are just in several Ikea's. Not too exciting for some, but I personally like the clean presentation.
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