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Old 07-03-2020, 02:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Okay...I know this belongs in the military section but let’s face it, the heart and soul if this machine is a 767 all the way. I think Gemini did a nice job on the details of this much overlooked model!
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Old 07-03-2020, 04:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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A well detailed model.
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Sure looks great! Lots of details
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Ditto for me. Lots of detail. Looks nice.
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Looks good, the color seems spot on.
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Great model indeed, does anyone know whether the refueling boom is movable/adjustable? thanks!
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To me the details look just as good as the G2 P-8, if not better.
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Old 07-05-2020, 03:25 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Great model indeed, does anyone know whether the refueling boom is movable/adjustable? thanks!

Negative. The boom is fixed.
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This model is superb in its detail. Unfortunately, I had to glue on the nose gear and reattach the vertical stabilizer as they came to me unattached in the box. Despite that I hold this model in high regard.



My only nit-pick is that there's no base flashing/call sign code. it appears GJ went with a pre-delivery livery instead of an active duty aircraft assigned to a squadron/unit. These aircraft are assigned to McConnell AFB at the moment but there's no indication of that on the tail as is customary for any new aircraft the USAF receives.



I might have room for at least one more KC-46 in my tanker collection. I hope the next release has a specific assignment.
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Crownvic, my comment won't be taken lightly by you since you don't accept criticism towards your company's models, but it must be said. Personally, I think Gemini needs some serious work on the nose shape/cockpit printing of their 767 series. It's the most noticeable flaw in the models of a mould that is otherwise alright.

I came across these photos online of the KC-46, and not only is the nose looking terrible, but the angle of the wings is ridiculous! It amazes me that GJ takes the time to produce a highly detailed model, yet doesn't pay attention the major features. Someone mentioned the civilian registration should also have been removed. Please remember that the criticism is only because of passion and attention to detail. I don't have a beef with GJ, though I think there is room for improvement and it's not difficult to achieve.





The nose needs to have rounder edges such as in these photos:




Compare the angle of the wings from the image to the model.


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Jan, in this case your points are well taken. No beef from me...maybe it needs to be fueled up to drop the wings!
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This model is superb in its detail. Unfortunately, I had to glue on the nose gear and reattach the vertical stabilizer as they came to me unattached in the box. Despite that I hold this model in high regard.



My only nit-pick is that there's no base flashing/call sign code. it appears GJ went with a pre-delivery livery instead of an active duty aircraft assigned to a squadron/unit. These aircraft are assigned to McConnell AFB at the moment but there's no indication of that on the tail as is customary for any new aircraft the USAF receives.



I might have room for at least one more KC-46 in my tanker collection. I hope the next release has a specific assignment.
So is the nose gear interchangeable or was it supposed to be fixed

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After reading the informative posts by Jan and Jalex I have decided to wait for a second release before ordering. Too bad, I had actually planned to order one this week!
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I have been informed this model is now sold out from a distributor standpoint...
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Gemini has 2 different nose mould for 767s
One for 767-200s
and one for 767-300s
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So is the nose gear interchangeable or was it supposed to be fixed

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It's supposed to be fixed. The nose and mains are fixed in place which I'm honestly surprised by. This is an entirely new mold and I have a hard time reconciling why Gemini wouldn't have the removable magnetized landing gear like we see in other models of this size. It's not a deal breaker for me so I can live with it. Regardless, I prefer my 1:200 military aircraft to be sitting on their gear as opposed to being on a stand anyway.

Upon closer inspection of this model I find the dihedral angle of the wings several degrees higher than what "rivet counter" collectors would be comfortable with. The KC-46 is at its core a 767. So why are the wings "flexed" like a 787 in flight? The saving grace to this happens to be the livery of the aircraft itself. The USAF "Greyscale" Air Mobility Command livery appears to camouflage the dihedral flaw with this model. So if you sit it on your display shelf or cabinet you won't notice the error from distance.

I may have to revise my decision to obtain another announced KC-46 if it essentially amounts to the same product. Instead, I'll patiently wait for Inflight200 for a better capture. I don't regret my purchase but I admit this could have been a better model had there been more quality control before release.

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My only nit-pick is that there's no base flashing/call sign code. it appears GJ went with a pre-delivery livery instead of an active duty aircraft assigned to a squadron/unit. These aircraft are assigned to McConnell AFB at the moment but there's no indication of that on the tail as is customary for any new aircraft the USAF receives.
This definitely looks like a pre-delivery livery with no tail flash, the civilian reg#, and the word "EXPERIMENTAL" above the entry door. I am also waiting for an example with a tail flash to be released. With the way GJ releases 1/200 KC-135s, I don't think we will have to wait long. But it does seem very difficult to find a photo of a KC-46 with a tail flash. The only one I could find is in the link below at the top of the page. The flash reads "NEW HAMPSHIRE", and it shows a Pegasus assigned to Pease ANG.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/157ARW/posts/

The angle of the wings in the photos shown is very concerning. I'm hoping someone who bought this model can produce some photos that don't look like that!

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Jan, in this case your points are well taken. No beef from me...maybe it needs to be fueled up to drop the wings!
Haha, well then GJ needs to add some Jet A for collectors Hoping the 767 can be improved in time for a CargoJet and Air Canada release .


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Gemini has 2 different nose mould for 767s
One for 767-200s
and one for 767-300s
Both need to be revised, especially the -200 series.
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Really hoping Gemini does a UAL Saul Bass (Large Titles) 767-200. Seems like a no brainer to produce. A standard DAL widget would be good too. I believe the was an early production UAL 767-200 in Saul Bass colors with a polished belly - that would be cool! Gotta find that pic...
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There she is, bottom of photo...
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...and another.
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Old 07-14-2020, 11:46 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Just received mine, and it too had loose landing gear (nose and 1 main) and loose tail (laying on top of the fuselage upon opening the box). Unfortunately, the "wings" on the tail boom are also both broken and there are a few scuffs, scratches, and chips, presumably from the metal parts moving about the box in shipping. You can also see a small amount of glue around both wing roots. My retailer checked his remaining inventory, and all have issues.


This is terrible handling and QC. I think the booms were broken when the planes were placed into the foam at the factory. There doesn't appear to be enough play for the booms to contact the foam with enough force once the plane is firmly in the foam, but the foam should be squared off around the boom just in case. I don't see any glue remnants on the gear or tail. I also think the wing angle is due to being glued incorrectly.


I have many Gemini models in my collection, and this is not at all typical. I hope these issues can be resolved before the next release.
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