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Old 06-18-2020, 09:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Some pictures of Embraer models in my collection
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I have, in my collection, ERJ-135, ERJ-145, E-170, E-175, E-190 and E-195. The EMB-120 "Brasilia" and the ERJ-140 are still missing.
The ERJ-140 has only had a model launched by Gemini many years ago, at Eagle livery. I can't find him anywhere.
I live in a city very close to the Embraer's facilities, in Brazil.
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I have, in my collection, ERJ-135, ERJ-145, E-170, E-175, E-190 and E-195. The EMB-120 "Brasilia" and the ERJ-140 are still missing.
The ERJ-140 has only had a model launched by Gemini many years ago, at Eagle livery. I can't find him anywhere.
I live in a city very close to the Embraer's facilities, in Brazil.
Hi,
You have a nice Embraer collection.
I have flown as passenger in E-190, E-145 and EMB-120.
Abraço cá de Moçambique!
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I have an ERJ 190 masquerading as a 195.
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In respect to ERJ 195’s produced in 1/200 scale by JC Wings, GJs and Herpa I suspect they have used their 190 moulds. All 3 makes have the front undercarriage incorrectly positioned(all set to far back, probably by 10mm in 1/200). Or is the fuselage 10mm to short?
I would welcome your thoughts on this issue.
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In respect to ERJ 195’s produced in 1/200 scale by JC Wings, GJs and Herpa I suspect they have used their 190 moulds. All 3 makes have the front undercarriage incorrectly positioned(all set to far back, probably by 10mm in 1/200). Or is the fuselage 10mm to short?
I would welcome your thoughts on this issue.
I’m not sure, but the position of the landing gear in this case might have an affect on the balance of the model. I’m sure we’ve all had a tippy model as the whole body is solid metal. You’re comparison is impressive but in-reality a matter of millimetres on a 1/200.

I love the E-Jets, but I think they used the 175 mould for both 170 and 175 and same for the 190/195.
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I didn't measure my 190 and 195: my E-190 is JC Wings and the E-195 from Herpa.

E-190 = 36.24 m (118 ft 11 in)
E-195 = 38.65 m (126 ft 10 in)

In 1/200:

E-190 = 18.12 cm.
E-195 = 19.33 cm.

I noticed the same problem with the 170 and 175: my Gemini E-175 is the same size as my JC Wings E-170 (I measured)!
I asked Gemini about it but they did not reply.

And the lengths of the aircraft are:
E-170 = 29.90 m (98 ft 1 in)
E-175 = 31.68 m (103 ft 11 in)
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I didn't measure my 190 and 195: my E-190 is JC Wings and the E-195 from Herpa.

E-190 = 36.24 m (118 ft 11 in)
E-195 = 38.65 m (126 ft 10 in)

In 1/200:

E-190 = 18.12 cm.
E-195 = 19.33 cm.

I noticed the same problem with the 170 and 175: my Gemini E-175 is the same size as my JC Wings E-170 (I measured)!
I asked Gemini about it but they did not reply.

And the lengths of the aircraft are:
E-170 = 29.90 m (98 ft 1 in)
E-175 = 31.68 m (103 ft 11 in)
Herpa is plastic and will likely be more ‘real’. The metal ones, is too expensive for them to make a new mould and they likely decided it was not worth it.
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I have, in my collection, ERJ-135, ERJ-145, E-170, E-175, E-190 and E-195. The EMB-120 "Brasilia" and the ERJ-140 are still missing.
The ERJ-140 has only had a model launched by Gemini many years ago, at Eagle livery. I can't find him anywhere.
I live in a city very close to the Embraer's facilities, in Brazil.
I think you're referring to the G2AAL167 American Eagle model. In the DIMA database it does show as an ERJ-140. But I have the model and the box of the model says ERJ-145.

I do hope a manufacturer produces an ERJ-140 mould and releases an American Connection ERJ-140!

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I love this Embraer Brasilia, it would be great to see more models using this excellent mould.
So far, only four have been produced.

I stand ready to welcome an Air France model.

With the Air France museum which does not care and SOCATEC which has problems to identify the good moulds and make good decisions, I am not sure that my voice counts, I feel alone.

Frustrating to see that the people who can make a decision do nothing or are unable to meet the collectors expectations.

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Herpa is plastic and will likely be more ‘real’. The metal ones, is too expensive for them to make a new mould and they likely decided it was not worth it.
I did a quick measurement of my E-190 by herpa (plastic) using a basic ruler and got 18,1 cm.
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The Embraer 120 stand out to me. Just a beautiful made model.
It is a shame most of the emphasise goes to the newer Embraer jets nowadays.
I would love to see an Embraer 120 or 145 in KLM livery.
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I think you're referring to the G2AAL167 American Eagle model. In the DIMA database it does show as an ERJ-140. But I have the model and the box of the model says ERJ-145.

I do hope a manufacturer produces an ERJ-140 mould and releases an American Connection ERJ-140!

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In the Gemini's Website (https://www.geminijets.com/database/...ype=&r_status=)
G2AAL167 is an Embraer ERJ-140LR (N824AE);
G2AAL448 is ERJ-145

And, in airfleets.net, N824AE:
Serial number: 584
Type: 140LR
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Hi,

the G2AAL167 model is in reality a 145 model as built with a 145 diecast mould and therefore also a 145 box was used by Gemini but it is/should show an Embraer 140LR/135 KL.
What databases show in forums or you will find on aircraft information or spotter pages and finally the model box is showing is a different story as designations are done manually and an input error will remain there for years or forever.
If not crossed checked on many pages you will get maybe a wrong idea of a specific aircraft and also a diecast model.

Because of not very many built aircrafts and operating airline(s) I do not think we will see a correct 140LR/135KL in the future.

I have to live also with this wrong Gemini 140 but where to get an absolutely correct one. It is the only model which shows at least "correct" livery and registration.

It is one of my most expensive models but as I collect one model of each passenger aircraft type since 1945 I had to find and finally take this too.

If a 3D designer here is able to design a correct Embraer 140 I would heartly welcome him (or her). Regards, Wolfgang
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the G2AAL167 model is in reality a 145 model as built with a 145 diecast mould and therefore also a 145 box was used by Gemini but it is/should show an Embraer 140LR/135 KL.
What databases show in forums or you will find on aircraft information or spotter pages and finally the model box is showing is a different story as designations are done manually and an input error will remain there for years or forever.
If not crossed checked on many pages you will get maybe a wrong idea of a specific aircraft and also a diecast model.

Because of not very many built aircrafts and operating airline(s) I do not think we will see a correct 140LR/135KL in the future.

I have to live also with this wrong Gemini 140 but where to get an absolutely correct one. It is the only model which shows at least "correct" livery and registration.

It is one of my most expensive models but as I collect one model of each passenger aircraft type since 1945 I had to find and finally take this too.

If a 3D designer here is able to design a correct Embraer 140 I would heartly welcome him (or her). Regards, Wolfgang
I see what you are saying. So, in reality, N824AE is an ERJ-140. But Gemini used an ERJ-145 model, put a registration for an ERJ-140 on the model, categorized it as an ERJ-140 on their website, but then clearly marked it as an ERJ-145 on the box of this model. I guess I don't really care that this model has a registration for an ERJ-140, but how easy it would have been to just pick an ERJ-145 registration number for this model? And like you, mine is also one of the most expensive models in my collection too.

Looking at the DIMA database, I just realized that 1/200 scale ERJ-135LR/ERs have been released by JC and AV200. But just a total of 3 models? What's the deal with the small number of ERJ-135s? I would be first in line for an American Eagle ERJ-135 in the older colors!!

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Here is my embrear collection:
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KLM ERJ 190 American ERJ 190 Air Europa ERJ 195 Luxair ERJ 145
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Hi Harvey,

I think Gemini wanted to make a 140 model and therefore a 140 registration was used but maybe because of saving costs or error/mistake by product manager a box printed as 145 was used for this model.
They would have been able to fix a label above the original printing as some other manufacturers did.

There are many boxes which are not correct as many manufacturers have used or are still using boxes for different aircraft types e.g. MD82 - MD83 or subtypes like e.g. M,ER,ERF, etc.

DiMA database is also updated by manual inputs so not only because of wrong designations of the model or the model box also because of input errors wrong designations can be seen there.

In the aircraft list there you can see some very similar aircrafts because of new input with an . or - or blank and so creating a new aircraft type which is the same as an already existing one.

Only 3 ERJ-135? What is about more releases than just the Lupa models for the E2 and for the 175E2 I have not found even such a smaller/affordable 1:250 Lupa model but only a big and expensive 1:72 one.

Boeing 737 MAX?
Yes, all MAX are actually grounded and many 8 and 9 were/will be released but what is about a MAX 7 which Southwest has ordered and SW was also operating some planes for some months.
Yes, I know there is an expensive PacMin/Boeing model but I am looking for a smaller/affordable one.
Even not a wrong MAX 7 - using a MAX 8 mould like ERJ-140/145 - was or will not be released the next months.
Of course I would prefer a correct one but obviously this aircraft type is not interesting for any manufacturer.

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Here is my embrear collection:
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KLM ERJ 190 American ERJ 190 Air Europa ERJ 195 Luxair ERJ 145
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Nice collection! I like the ERJ 145
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Here is my embrear collection:
LOT ERJ 195 ERJ 175 ERJ 170
KLM ERJ 190 American ERJ 190 Air Europa ERJ 195 Luxair ERJ 145
Is the Luxair and the Lot 170 (old livery) customs? They look amazing.
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hi yes the Luxair and the LOT ERJ 175 are customs
Also the ERJ 195 Air Europa ;-)
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How many years has it been since GJ released an EMB-120? I was thinking a United battleship gray one would be nice and then I discovered that this has already been released. But the gray just doesn't seem right (maybe too light).

What are everyone's thoughts on this EMB-120 model? I used to fly on these quite a lot back in the day (silver ASA and gray United), but something seems off to me about the model that just doesn't drive me to pursue finding one. I can't quite put my finger on what I don't like about it though.

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hi yes the Luxair and the LOT ERJ 175 are customs
Also the ERJ 195 Air Europa ;-)
Excellent job! Best custom work I have ever seen. I could not tell they were custom, but I knew they were never ‘officially made’.

Thanks for posting!
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How many years has it been since GJ released an EMB-120? I was thinking a United battleship gray one would be nice and then I discovered that this has already been released. But the gray just doesn't seem right (maybe too light).

What are everyone's thoughts on this EMB-120 model? I used to fly on these quite a lot back in the day (silver ASA and gray United), but something seems off to me about the model that just doesn't drive me to pursue finding one. I can't quite put my finger on what I don't like about it though.

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I have them and I agree the gray is slightly lighter (to my old eyes) but it is a really lovely model and I’m glad to have it.
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Very nice collection...I really like Embraer ERJ-145 and The E jet series.

Really wish we could get a US Airways ERJ-190. Maybe one day...would be nice now that American has retired them all this year. They were all originally US Airways mainline fleet.
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My Embraer collection has grown (E-190, E-170, ERJ-145, ERJ-140, ERJ-135, EMB-120)
Now I need a good E-175 and E-195 in correct length. Any suggestions?
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My Embraer collection has grown (E-190, E-170, ERJ-145, ERJ-140, ERJ-135, EMB-120)
Now I need a good E-175 and E-195 in correct length. Any suggestions?

See my thread here regarding the E170, 175, 1900, 195.

https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com...w-wingtip.html

GJ do actually have the correct mould length for all of them now. If you get
the latest E190 or E195 from JC wings or GJ, they are the correct length.


For the E195, I have G2LOT345 . For E190, I have G2UTY995. They are both definitely correct length when i measured with a ruler.

I also have E170 (G2UAL352) and E175 (G2UAL716, G2AAL715). They all have the correct lengths

The only screwy one (which i have also) is N401YX (G2AAL449). That is supposed to be a short winged E175. I confirmed this by looking up the reg number. Which mean the fuselage length should be the same as all other E175 but with the shorter non angled winglets that has the same span as E170. However, GJ used an E170 mould (which has the wrong shorter length but right wingspan for the registration) and "cheated" it into an E175 by painting 20 windows on the left side instead of 18 windows in all the other correct E170. They also the box as "E-170" when this is actually a short wing E175!! This one particular release is really so messed up....lol....

The E175 (with the long angled winglets) is of the correct length. I just measured mine and it's 16cm or 32m in real life matching the spec. I have N416YX and N163SY (G2UAL716, G2AAL715)
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See my thread here regarding the E170, 175, 1900, 195.

https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com...w-wingtip.html

GJ do actually have the correct mould length for all of them now. If you get
the latest E190 or E195 from JC wings or GJ, they are the correct length.


For the E195, I have G2LOT345 . For E190, I have G2UTY995. They are both definitely correct length when i measured with a ruler.

I also have E170 (G2UAL352) and E175 (G2UAL716, G2AAL715). They all have the correct lengths

The only screwy one (which i have also) is N401YX (G2AAL449). That is supposed to be a short winged E175. I confirmed this by looking up the reg number. Which mean the fuselage length should be the same as all other E175 but with the shorter non angled winglets that has the same span as E170. However, GJ used an E170 mould (which has the wrong shorter length but right wingspan for the registration) and "cheated" it into an E175 by painting 20 windows on the left side instead of 18 windows in all the other correct E170. They also the box as "E-170" when this is actually a short wing E175!! This one particular release is really so messed up....lol....

The E175 (with the long angled winglets) is of the correct length. I just measured mine and it's 16cm or 32m in real life matching the spec. I have N416YX and N163SY (G2UAL716, G2AAL715)
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Thank you very much for your help and suggestions. Now it is clear to me which E175 (E170-200) and E195 (E190-200) moulds have the correct length.
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Rather generally spoken: using available moulds for similar models (i.e. E-170/E-175, Fokker 70/Fokker 28, or L-1011-1/L-1011-500) is an antique policy of scale model manufacturers. However, regarding the large scale and the fact that we are not in the 1980s, this policy should be gone for a long time already and forever. Anything else is hineous deed!
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ok, are you ready for some more messed up ****s? lol.

I really want a correct short winged E175. I looked up the DIMA database trying to find the latest released model, assuming that the latest is most correct (?) and there appears to be a good candidate by the pictures on DIMA: C-FEJB (G2ACA852). This aircraft is really short winged if you check the real latest picture on jetphotos.com.

However, I see that there are two different pics for it on two different sites ;(

https://www.jetcollector.com/geminij...-g2aca852.html

https://shop.prairiediecast.ca/produ...ss-e175-c-fejb

These photos seem to be just stock ads photos rather than photo of actual item.

This is kinda stressing me out on whether i should order one....lol... I mean, if you go by the DIMA pics as being the pics of the actual item, then the winglets are correct. But you can't tell much about correct length from the DIMA pics. I am hoping someone here does have C-FEJB (G2ACA852) can tell us if GJ finally got a short winged E175 correctly done

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Very nice Embraer models.

The Embraer Brasilia is so good that I suggested Gemini to produce this model with the Air France livery.

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