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Old 06-11-2020, 04:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I know there is a topic thread asking to post your rarest model but I have a few to fit that bill and not sure which one.. I’ve been on the hunt for an A318 for over a year. Pickings are slim with only a very few long sold out of production models ever made. A big shout out and thank you to my good friends at Panda Fox models for sending this one to me...

If fellow DACer ukjohna agrees to it I may ship this one off for a full BA conversion to replicate BA 1 and BA 2!
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I know there is a topic thread asking to post your rarest model but I have a few to fit that bill and not sure which one.. I’ve been on the hunt for an A318 for over a year. Pickings are slim with only a very few long sold out of production models ever made. A big shout out and thank you to my good friends at Panda Fox models for sending this one to me...

If fellow DACer ukjohna agrees to it I may ship this one off for a full BA conversion to replicate BA 1 and BA 2!

Had the Air France A318 and sold it.....
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I look forward to seeing the conversion! There are only two Baby Buses I've ever wanted to own a model of. One is of a Virgin America A320 (which I did get) and the other is the Germanwings "Bear Bus" A319 aircraft. The latter was produced by Herpa in two scales but I couldn't find the 1:200 scale model at a reasonable price (including shipping) so I gave up. lol

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Old 06-11-2020, 04:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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glad i got one of these limox/hogan a318. It was on ebay. now can no longer find one ;( i definitely want another one

Lesson 101 in airplane model collecting: always buy at least 2 of each for cheaper plastic models. also always buy models of airplanes that didn't sell well or in low number right away. See 737-100, a321-100, a330-800, a318, 767-400, 757-300

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I have two of this A318.One I changed to a Tarom 1:200 scale. The second one is prepared for another custom model.
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I have two of this A318.One I changed to a Tarom 1:200 scale. The second one is prepared for another custom model.
you also have a BA custom as well correct?
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no I dont have a BA A318 custom.only the tarom and the airbus livery.there are not so many options for a A318 custom ;-)
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Very nice baby bus. Didn't buy it when I could but regret it.
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you also have a BA custom as well correct?
I think the donor you have is a Hogan which is the same as I used.
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no I dont have a BA A318 custom.only the tarom and the airbus livery.there are not so many options for a A318 custom ;-)
ooops it was modelmanGB who has it...
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I think the donor you have is a Hogan which is the same as I used.
correct it is a hogan, and now I need to convert mine to yours..
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I know there is a topic thread asking to post your rarest model but I have a few to fit that bill and not sure which one.. I’ve been on the hunt for an A318 for over a year. Pickings are slim with only a very few long sold out of production models ever made. A big shout out and thank you to my good friends at Panda Fox models for sending this one to me...

If fellow DACer ukjohna agrees to it I may ship this one off for a full BA conversion to replicate BA 1 and BA 2!
I would agree to buy it, not to convert it. As ModelManGB will attest, I can change the tail on an existing BA, but full repaints are not my specialty yet (although I am getting better)

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I still have mine. I need to add a few more to this line up
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I still have mine. I need to add a few more to this line up
Amazing how short it is compared to the A320..
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I also have a custom BA made for me by Sergeii with the Hogan donor. As I commented on a previous thread, I was lucky to fly on the BA A318 from LCY to JFK via Shannon (thanks to AMEX rewards). I still wish Hogan (or anyone for that matter) comes out with the AF, BA, and/or Frontier version.
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correct it is a hogan, and now I need to convert mine to yours..
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If anyone has one they want to part with let me know! I have the house colors A series in all the others and would love to add one of these.
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correct it is a hogan, and now I need to convert mine to yours..
On reflection I think V1 decals would be the better option.


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Just choose 1/200 scale in the drop down scale option.
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Amazing how short it is compared to the A320..
the upsized vertical stabilizer needed due to the short fuselage also contributes to the weird look and proportion.
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I don't remember the route, but somebody was saying their favorite flight from Britain to the US is operated by a A318. Can't imagine that being pleasant--at least for me.
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I don't remember the route, but somebody was saying their favorite flight from Britain to the US is operated by a A318. Can't imagine that being pleasant--at least for me.
The only A318 from the UK to US is the London City to JFK using the old Concorde's flight number. It's all-business class so I'm sure it's quite plesant!
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I don't remember the route, but somebody was saying their favorite flight from Britain to the US is operated by a A318. Can't imagine that being pleasant--at least for me.
On the contrary, The flight departs London City Airport with a tech stop in Shannon Ireland. There it is refueled for the transatlantic flight to JFK. Passengers also clear US customs ahead of time so they avoid the long immigration lines at JFK. Also the plane is specially configured for just 8 rows of four first class seats so only 32 passengers onboard. It is a great travel experience at less than $2100.

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The only A318 from the UK to US is the London City to JFK using the old Concorde's flight number. It's all-business class so I'm sure it's quite plesant!
Yeah just saw that on BA's website. Just thirty-two PAX. That should be okay.
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Yeah just saw that on BA's website. Just thirty-two PAX. That should be okay.
"Okay"? You have very high standards!
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The plane just looks too big to haul approx 40 folks around the skies. Could move the same traffic with a more proportional A220-300.


It appears someone at Airbus said "Jacques! We need something smaller but that all narrowbody Airbus pilots can fly without requiring additional sim time. We need it, yesterday!!" Jacques takes 10 minutes to remove a few frames from an A319 model and puts the reglued model on the desk for the decision makers to enjoy and concur with the design.

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A320 was designed using the 727 cabin size as a reference. This cabin is indeed a bit short and Boeing managed to save the 737 with the NG by sizing it right on the -800. The A320+, a minor stretch to match the 737-800 cabin, has been under discussion for years.

A321 is a stretch. Low cost per seat, if you can fill them. It seems it has now reached its maturity under the current (pre Covid) market condition and with the NEO engines.

A319 was a shrunk, always a difficult exercice, but had some success because it had the right capacity at the right time.

A318 was always known to be less than optimal, but it helped Airbus salesmen to propose a full single-aisle range, from 100 to 220 pax. Not helping was the fact the PW6000 engine was the only one really optimised for this airframe but had design issues; the CFM56 was too heavy but offered fleet commonality.

A220 will likely replace the A318 and A319, except for fleet commonality reasons in the second case.
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a stretched a321xlr would be perfect for MOM.
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On the contrary, The flight departs London City Airport with a tech stop in Shannon Ireland. There it is refueled for the transatlantic flight to JFK. Passengers also clear US customs ahead of time so they avoid the long immigration lines at JFK. Also the plane is specially configured for just 8 rows of four first class seats so only 32 passengers onboard. It is a great travel experience at less than $2100.

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I have both the Hogan Air France releases.
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My Airbus collection is missing the A318
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There is another A318 in 1/200, widely available, from the Atlas Silver classic range. The silver finish is what it is, but this might be a good basis for a custom. No landing gear.

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One rare Airbus congrats on finding a copy for collection
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Russell, out of curiosity: Why hasn't GJ produced any models of the A318? Looking at the GJ database, there haven't been any made in either scale. Just no or low demand? Not enough airlines fly them to warrant creating a mould?

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Russell, out of curiosity: Why hasn't GJ produced any models of the A318? Looking at the GJ database, there haven't been any made in either scale. Just no or low demand? Not enough airlines fly them to warrant creating a mould?
Your last sentence answered that question
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There is another A318 in 1/200, widely available, from the Atlas Silver classic range. The silver finish is what it is, but this might be a good basis for a custom. No landing gear.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Airbus-A-318...sAAOSw9hdZ9bqA
Thank you for the suggestion. I do not have the skills to do a custom.
I saw a webpage advertising custom made scale models in solid resin or wood. I did enquire for a 1:200 A318. The price is quite high.
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I still have mine. I need to add a few more to this line up

Well where do you stop? Demonstrators are welcome to for collectors F-WWOW was busy for a while going to all the Airlines that ordered the A380.



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I would be all over a Frontier A318.

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Frontier has a total of 11 Baby Busses at one time. But with only 66 total planes among a handful of carriers I can understand reluctance not to produce these by Gemini Jets or any other manufacturer.

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Frontier has a total of 11 Baby Busses at one time. But with only 66 total planes among a handful of carriers I can understand reluctance not to produce these by Gemini Jets or any other manufacturer.
I'm surprised Hogan didn't do them, given they have the mould and did the Frontier A319 with interchangeable tails.
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That is incredible work. Now I have to get my hands on one of those.
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A320 was designed using the 727 cabin size as a reference. This cabin is indeed a bit short and Boeing managed to save the 737 with the NG by sizing it right on the -800. The A320+, a minor stretch to match the 737-800 cabin, has been under discussion for years.

A321 is a stretch. Low cost per seat, if you can fill them. It seems it has now reached its maturity under the current (pre Covid) market condition and with the NEO engines.

A319 was a shrunk, always a difficult exercice, but had some success because it had the right capacity at the right time.

A318 was always known to be less than optimal, but it helped Airbus salesmen to propose a full single-aisle range, from 100 to 220 pax. Not helping was the fact the PW6000 engine was the only one really optimised for this airframe but had design issues; the CFM56 was too heavy but offered fleet commonality.

A220 will likely replace the A318 and A319, except for fleet commonality reasons in the second case.
Well, I would say this is history told in a slightly different way. As for the A319, that shrunk ‘excercise’ had ‘some success’ - one could say: indeed, it even outsold Boeing’s competing model, the 737-700. And keep in mind that the successful -700 would be a different story if Southwest did not order half of the 1,100 units in service!

The A321 indeed is a stretch just like the 737-800 or -900, aimed at the market right between the A320 and the 757. Today, A321s are replacing 757s... and I dislike that.

The A318 was a special version for Frontier, Air France and LAN Chile, providing fleet commonality with the other A320 family aircraft and comfort in a segment that would be newly-invaded by a standard single-aisle aircraft of that size. If I recall correctly, Airbus at that time was interested in cooperating with Chinese and other Asian manufacturers in order to optimize smaller Airbus aircraft for the Asian market. They even signed such a cooperation which projected what would have been dubbed “AE316” and “AE317”, but those would have been new designs instead of shrunk A320 family aircraft (rather like later Embraer and Canadair jets). The AE316 and AE317 projects were cancelled since the cooperation never materialized, so the A318 was finally developed. Less of a success, though, with only 80 aircraft on the order log. Problem was its size, or its weight to be precise, so today not many A318s are still flying. It’s always been a niche aircraft such as the DC-9-20, 737-600, 767-400, or the DC-10-15, for example.
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