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Old 03-04-2020, 04:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Recently announced Inflight 200 (IF310AT0219) AIRBUS A310-304 Air Transat (C-GFAT) Limited Edition to 90 pcs !?

I can’t believe my eyes!...is it true !?

Can anyone confirm that this model will actually be released as advertised !?...

I mean with this pandemic outbreak, is possible that this release will be severely delayed !?

How good is this new Inflight200 A310 tooling !?

Can someone please make a detailed review of it and post some pictures of the current releases of the A310-300!?

Thanks in advance.
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It is urgent to not rush, I have discovered to my cost that the art work is one thing and the production model is another one.

Passenger window line, height of the over wing emergency exits above the wings and shape of the engine nacelles, PW or GE are keys.

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Directly from Inflight200 website, the first picture of actual model of A310 in Air Transat livery. Looks great, doesn’t it !?
Looking for expert advice on this subject matter...thank you!
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I'd like one.
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Directly from Inflight200 website, the first picture of actual model of A310 in Air Transat livery. Looks great, doesn’t it !?
Looking for expert advice on this subject matter...thank you!
My "expert" advice is that if you like it, you should buy it. Simple as that.
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Is it just me or the passenger window line is printed way too high!?

Judging from the height of the wings escape doors, the passengers window line seems too high !?...

Definitely, too high!...
Perhaps this is a picture of a sample model, and the production models will not be the same !?
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Make your own judgment ...

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Definitely printed too high. All of it. Look how high the over wing exit door is on the real plane compared to the model. Or how high the 't' in Air Transat is over the leading edge of the wing. The whole thing is printed too high. That said... I want an Air Transat A310 in my collection and the printing error won't prevent me from buying one.
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Yes I agree, I want one too and have it on pre-order, but shame about the 'too high' printing. Hope they get it right on the BCal and Wardair.
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Very nice livery but shame on those pax windows.. hope they'll do better in the future. But if you want it, get it. Don't think gj will release this one.
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Shame about the pax windows... Was hoping IF would fix that for this release. Hopefully they can view this thread and make some fixes prior to production, though they rarely fix anything once a photo is posted.
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Just saw the KLM Inflight A310 coming online. The pax window line still seems to be on the high side.
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Sorry, the Inflight is no Option as Long as it Looks like THIS. I wished more manufacturers would switch to 3D printing.
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The best way to have good models is to ignore these sub-standard products.

This should have been done with the B 707-320 and the poor "Comets".

Please no Air France livery.

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Such a waste of resources
I’m quite disappointed, seeing such a nice airplane being “botched up” like that !?
I was so looking forward of getting one, but now I’m not sure anymore !...

Looks like all Inflight200 A310’s have the same issue...passenger windows printed way too high...

What kind of people work there!? Do they know anything about airplane replica reproductions!?...
Inflight200 probably invested a lot of time and resources, in creating such a beautiful airplane mould, and ruin all that effort, with an obvious and hideous error!?
Why couldn’t they do it right!? I think they’re capable, after seeing their outstanding A319, 320 & 321 models!?

I’m sorry Inflight200, I had high hopes, but now, you can keep your “botched up” model.
Sell it to children as a toys, not as an adult collectible model
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The best way to have good models is to ignore these sub-standard products.

This should have been done with the B 707-320 and the poor "Comets".

Please no Air France livery.

Jean pierre.
If we ignore this substandard product, it’s highly unlikely we’ll ever see another Air Transat A310. It’s also highly unlikely Air Transat will survive COVID-19. This is most likely the only shot we have at one of these.
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I understand what you mean and it is true that this livery is too good to be missed.

It is obvious that the passenger windows are too high but the fact of the matter seems to be the nose.
The threshold of the front door, the cabin floor and the nose cone should be at the same level.

If you lower just a few millimeters the nose cone, everything goes at its right place.

Just my thought, I may be wrong ...

Waiting for Gemini or JC Wings.

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On the GJ mould the struts of the undercarriage is too Long. To be honest my hope is Aero200... don't know if i'll see it in person, but i am sure Aeroclassics will release one sooner or later. We also do not know how things develop regarding NG. I won't exclude an A310 by NG aswell.
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In order to make your own judgement, if one of you is interested in the general dimensions and detailed ground clearances of the aircraft, position of the fuselage, nose cone, tail cone, engine nacelles, wing tips above the ground, just let me know.

Still the best way to check the accuracy of a mould.

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Generally due to obvious reasons, hobby may not be on such "priority" as before and I am pretty sure people will be more causious when choosing model. So I am amazed why IF200 don't pay attention to details as printing, it ruines model. Anyway, I canceled pre-order, maybe GJ will make Transat in better shape.
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In that case, not sure it is a problem of printing.

If the threshold of the front door is aligned with the nose cone and if the nose cone is too high everything is wrong.


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We had a discussion about this issue a while back. As JP mentioned above, even after IF improved the nose after the first few releases, we still have a much to high window line. It's the domino effect starting with moulding the cockpit windows to high, after that the window line is to high, the doors are to high, as so on. This cannot be simply fixed by painting the windows lower, the whole front end has to be remoulded.
I especially feel bad for those who have been looking forward to this livery. Buy the IF version if it doesn't bother you, or hope for Gemini to release one. Note that Gemini has released 2 Air Transit A310's in 1:400 in the past. You can always try contacting Gemini to see if the plan on releasing this livery
I am not a rivet counter, buy I will never buy the IF version as is.
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I got GJs Aeroflot A310 in 1/400, and surprisingly it s way more accurate than the 1/200 counterpart.

https://www.wings900.com/vb/1-400-sc...310-304-a.html
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I got GJs Aeroflot A310 in 1/400, and surprisingly it s way more accurate than the 1/200 counterpart.

https://www.wings900.com/vb/1-400-sc...310-304-a.html
In my opinion even the 1:400 scale is affected by this quality issue of passenger windows, being too high...

A lot of good discussions on this topic. Thank you.
I hope Inflight200 pays attention to what the buying collector wants, and should always strive to meet these expectations.
Think about it, these models are not cheap and if they are meant for the adult collector, then they should meet and possibly even exceed their expectations.

I’m not a rivet counter myself but the manufacturer of such models, should have high standards of quality and workmanship, that are observed in every release, in each and every model they sell.
These standards shall include every aspect, from the mould shape, dimensions, painting, printing, assembly, packaging...etc...
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Has any retailer announced this on their own website yet? I'd like to get my hands on one!
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In that case, not sure it is a problem of printing.

If the threshold of the front door is aligned with the nose cone and if the nose cone is too high everything is wrong.


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Jean Pierre, seems you are right. Quick comparison of IF200 and GJ200 models - tried to find pictures from similar angle, and the result is. Delta - GJ200, with red contour of fuselage. Pan Am - IF200. Regards.
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Jean Pierre, seems you are right. Quick comparison of IF200 and GJ200 models - tried to find pictures from similar angle, and the result is. Delta - GJ200, with red contour of fuselage. Pan Am - IF200. Regards.
Thanks for the comparison pictures. It looks like the Delta version (Gemini200) is a better option to be considered, as the cockpit and passenger windows are printed in a lower position, making the model look better.
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Thank you for this excellent comparison shot.
Now the collectors have much more elements to decide which model they prefer.

I wrote a few things some days ago about the A 310, see "A subject of reflection".
The first thing a manufacturer needs to have before working on a new model is an accurate dimensional drawing as detailed as possible.
It is obvious that in some cases, shortcuts have been taken.

Another model that will be available in the coming weeks is a perfect example of this.

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Generally due to obvious reasons, hobby may not be on such "priority" as before and I am pretty sure people will be more causious when choosing model. So I am amazed why IF200 don't pay attention to details as printing, it ruines model. Anyway, I canceled pre-order, maybe GJ will make Transat in better shape.
Good luck trying to find one of the 90 of these made when nobody else ever makes one.
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Don't think gj will ever make a transat or lufthansa, so my bet is if you want the Transat, buy it before it is too late..
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Months ago I ordered the IF KLM A310 on the website of the Aviation Megastore near AMS Schiphol. Today it was available in the shop to pick it up, just a ten minutes drive and always fun to visit the place. Normally I am not complaining but this time I was very disappointed with this 1:200 model!! Cockpit windows to high and because of that also the cheatline. Inflight got it totally wrong this time. I know we have more important problems these days but I paid almost 100 Euro.....
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Months ago I ordered the IF KLM A310 on the website of the Aviation Megastore near AMS Schiphol. Today it was available in the shop to pick it up, just a ten minutes drive and always fun to visit the place. Normally I am not complaining but this time I was very disappointed with this 1:200 model!! Cockpit windows to high and because of that also the cheatline. Inflight got it totally wrong this time. I know we have more important problems these days but I paid almost 100 Euro.....
With all the debate on this forum about the windows and cheatline, I decided not to order the model outright but take a look at it first before I decide to buy. Maybe an idea for next time.
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Months ago I ordered the IF KLM A310 on the website of the Aviation Megastore near AMS Schiphol. Today it was available in the shop to pick it up, just a ten minutes drive and always fun to visit the place. Normally I am not complaining but this time I was very disappointed with this 1:200 model!! Cockpit windows to high and because of that also the cheatline. Inflight got it totally wrong this time. I know we have more important problems these days but I paid almost 100 Euro.....
You better quit. Don't let the propaganda tell you "If you don't buy this release (with all its flaws), you probably won't get any of this aircraft type/airline livery ever".

You as a customer and collector have only one - ONE - weapon to force manufacturers to improve their products and/or production facilities: don't buy models that are screwed up. Leave the retailers' shelves filled up with such models. Your voice will be heard. If you buy faulty models anyway, you confirm the manufacturers' estimation "Well, there will be enough fools to sell this production run of 200 pieces". YOU decide.

I could not resist and pre-ordered the Lufthansa/Swissair A310-200 demonstrator livery last week. I am aware of the problems with high windshield and cabin windows but I am also expecting that any criticism and 'not sold' A310 models of the current releases will change their mind and lead to an improvement concerning this detail (a change would actually boost their A310 to a very high level).
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Well, with little sarcasm, it seems they are doing very, very well. If, bearing in mind current conditions, they release such crappy things, they really don't care if models will be sold or not. But some things have changed recently, so I am afraid people will count their money more and more. And buy only good and decent releases. Hope manufacturers learn that some day.
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It is disapointing, I have cancelled my pre-order for the KLM model ,but will keep my Air Transat pre-order open,as mentioned by others, I too am fearfull no other manufacturer may produce this scheme again. I just hope they can sort the issues out before they do Wardair and BCal.
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Hi guys,

received my Swissair A310 in OC (Chocolate) and have to say it is wonderful. Great shape and the windows look good to me as well.

Cannot comment on other releases.

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I 'googled' some pictures of the inflight Swissair chocolate and your right it does look good, and I think the angle of the rear windows is an improvement which helps, but the positioning of the printing remains wrong. If you compare the position of the overwing exit between the inflight model and the real thing or Gemini you will see what I mean, but I agree if I were a Swissair collector I would find it acceptable.
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