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Old 02-23-2020, 04:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Does anyone have one of these in their collection and thought something doesn’t seem quite right?
Whilst creating a custom model I noticed that the emergency doors on my decals did not line up correctly over the wings. At first I thought my artwork was at fault but upon checking it was near enough spot on. I then wondered if the wings on the model where positioned correctly and checked the dimensions against some Airbus data. My check measurements revealed that the wings where set approximately 8mm to far back and as a consequence the main undercarriage was also positioned wrongly. All other dimensions seemed to tally with the tech spec.
I believe that this Socatec branded model was a Gemini product, but how does it compare with the similar Gemini version. If they used the same mould then the same inaccuracy will be apparent.
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Old 02-23-2020, 08:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Yeh you're right, it's the first Gemini mould. Hot topic of conversation on here about 11/12 years ago when they first released this mould. I believe the first one they released was a British Airways Airbus A320, G-BUSH. I can't remember if the wings were placed slightly too far back, thus creating this odd look, or it was the printing of the emergency exits. I believe it was the positioning of the wings that were in error, over the printing. They sorted the problem relativity quickly if memory serves.
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I expect Jean Pierre has a lot to say about this release and rightly so. Over to you JP the floor is yours
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Old 02-24-2020, 09:21 AM   #4 (permalink)
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You are absolutely right.
I have this model bought when it became available and I took the time to compare the overall dimensions with an Airbus document.

It is true that the wing does not seem properly positioned.
I also have the less common Air Inter version A 320-100 without the winglets, same problem.

I attach a few pictures, assuming that the wing planform is correct, the wing of the model is 7 mm too far back.
I don't know if the problem has been corrected.

After the Hogan (plastic) version this model was the second "good" A 320, Herpa and Inflight came much later, these last two models are excellent.

Waiting for the AF version produced by Inflight.

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Old 02-24-2020, 01:30 PM   #5 (permalink)
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when the Gemini 1/200 British Airways A320 was released I compared it to a Starjets 200 A320


confirms what you are saying....



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I have this AF model. I remember when I was chasing it down a number of years back, it was discontinued and out of stock in a great number of places. But thanks to a number of very helpful forum members, someone actually found one last one in stock from a shop in Toulouse, across from where Airbus actually exists. I still have the model today, and I love it. Largely because the comradery demonstrated. Thanks again to HTF200 & Jean Pierre!
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Thank you modelmanGB and JP for time and scale data. I had no idea of this until this post. I took some photo's of a A320 the Iberia oneworld donor JC and the Mexicana is an Inflight200 A320. Firstly, the scale ruler is square and both model's noses are touching. Yes you can clearly see the difference as pointed out









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What !? so, that means the newest Inflight200 A320's, are affected by this wing positioning error !?
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What !? so, that means the newest Inflight200 A320's, are affected by this wing positioning error !?

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Difficult to appreciate on the photo because of the distortion.

Here is a picture showing an Inflight model.
The Inflight model is fine, 56 mm (green) is what we should have between the nose and the engine intake.
In fact the measured distance is 57 mm, again, there is a distortion on the photo.
Who cares for One millimeter ?

63 mm (red) is what we have on the Gemini model.

Note that the Inflight model tends to be a tail sitter, this could be the reason why the wing is so far back on the Gemini product.

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This is the custom I created using the Socatec. The more you look at it the more obvious the wing mis-placement becomes.
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