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Old 10-20-2019, 08:18 AM   #1
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Hi,

is it just me or does this upper deck „bulg“ obove the cockpit Windows Looks off/too big? Do you think Inflight did a better/more correct version.

https://www.diecasttrading.com/en/12...duct-images2-6

https://www.diecasttrading.com/en/12...duct-images2-2

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https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...400-re-456481/



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Neither GJ or IF200 had done a good job regarding all their “100 years” B747’s.

For me the GJ ones are not so bad as the IF200 ones especially when it comes to the positioning of the cockpit windows.

Nevertheless it’s crazy that GJ printed on the BOAC release the passenger window line too low and now on their Landor- release too high...

In the end I have gone with the GJ release but it’s a personal decision with which faults you could better life 😉
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No argument here, both models are way off.. I’d do with the real version as the Landor will be parked soon and will be for sale..
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The bulge is correct. There is a slight dip along the top deck on the real thing.
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unfortunately it is not correct. The "big forehead" I call it. Looks terrible ....Gemini jets had a great mold a few years back..now the cockpit windows are off...and that front landing gear terrible...it is too long ....looks like the plane is taking off ...


Have the older gemini KLM 747-400 and looks perfect even the rubber wheels were thinner etc...

As for inflight the cockpit windows were placed too high..

It's great we have this website ..this needs to change from both manufacturers. I will just not buy any models if this continues.
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There is not one model is perfect I don't see why people need to make such a drama about such things if you want a model that is near perfect, whelp you may as well build model kits from Trumpeter, Hasegawa or Tamiya while you're at it.
Not one diecast model is 100% perfect, forget it even if you really wanted to believe that none of them are perfect.
There will always be issues here and there even if you take note of them and post them these companies won't care they make money anyways so you might as well live with it and sop putting so much wasted energy by stating such things.

It's a lost battle anyways and personally both models look fine be happy you don't have to make them yourself FOR those model companies ...
Just my views on such threads like this one
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I totally agree GOLD LEADER !
I think every of my 1:200 models have its “personal” issues.
But nevertheless I bought them and I could life with them as “nobody (or nothing) is perfect“ 😉
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I totally agree GOLD LEADER !
I think every of my 1:200 models have its “personal” issues.
But nevertheless I bought them and I could life with them as “nobody (or nothing) is perfect“ ��
That is exactly what I meant yea thanks
it's a shame we see many of these repetitive topics here at the DA.C forums, it's not like they are solving problems either...

These kind of posters should stop posting such senseless and pointless topics and post something more positive, such threads only ruin the atmosphere in my humble opinion.

And these kind of people should accept and respect the models as they are, because their crying isn't going to make things better anyway xD
Thus they should just over with it and get on with what they do better.

Like you said nobody is perfect and if they still have a hard time with it, they may as well quit collecting all together, because in the end they are the ones that are wasting coin on things they don't find perfect enough for themselves to have, same sh.-it different day for that part.
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unfortunately it is not correct. The "big forehead" I call it. Looks terrible ....Gemini jets had a great mold a few years back..now the cockpit windows are off...and that front landing gear terrible...it is too long ....looks like the plane is taking off ...


Have the older gemini KLM 747-400 and looks perfect even the rubber wheels were thinner etc...

As for inflight the cockpit windows were placed too high..

It's great we have this website ..this needs to change from both manufacturers. I will just not buy any models if this continues.
Totally agree with this comment. I ended up getting the GJ Landor, however it's hard to ignore these noticeable printing errors and landing gear proportions. IMO, JC Wings has the best batch of 747's. From my collection, the best quality produced ones are my Qantas and Thai. It seems the pre-order Air France 747 is equally on par based off the images I've seen.

https://www.scalemodelstore.com/mode...g_747-400.html
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That is exactly what I meant yea thanks
it's a shame we see many of these repetitive topics here at the DA.C forums, it's not like they are solving problems either...

These kind of posters should stop posting such senseless and pointless topics and post something more positive, such threads only ruin the atmosphere in my humble opinion.

And these kind of people should accept and respect the models as they are, because their crying isn't going to make things better anyway xD
Thus they should just over with it and get on with what they do better.

Like you said nobody is perfect and if they still have a hard time with it, they may as well quit collecting all together, because in the end they are the ones that are wasting coin on things they don't find perfect enough for themselves to have, same sh.-it different day for that part.

I do not agree with you. We pay a lot of money for models. I am in direct contact with inflight and they do care about the quality and fix issues including the paint issue with dc 10's is being worked on. Gemini jets should listen to ..they got it right before with the 747 cockpit windows so they can improve it again. Sometimes a quality check in needed at the factory...
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That is exactly what I meant yea thanks
it's a shame we see many of these repetitive topics here at the DA.C forums, it's not like they are solving problems either...

These kind of posters should stop posting such senseless and pointless topics and post something more positive, such threads only ruin the atmosphere in my humble opinion.

And these kind of people should accept and respect the models as they are, because their crying isn't going to make things better anyway xD
Thus they should just over with it and get on with what they do better.

Like you said nobody is perfect and if they still have a hard time with it, they may as well quit collecting all together, because in the end they are the ones that are wasting coin on things they don't find perfect enough for themselves to have, same sh.-it different day for that part.

Thanks for your 2 cents but I knew something like this would happen. I read so much threads and there´s always this one person who gets upset. I didn´t start this thread to discuss with you what´s worth to discuss about! You have not written anything meaningful about the topic. Just a litte yelling and a little interpretation about "us people". No problem it´s your opinion. But do us a favour and leave us alone.

You can start your own thread where you can discuss what´s worth to talk about here in the forum with a lot of positive vibes and energy. Don´t waste your time with all these haters.


And by the way it was never about perfection in this thread. If you think we people aren´t happy with our collections you are definilty wrong.


I´ve got some "minor errors" for you! Check it out. Just 100 bucks.. hey, it´s ok. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10JTmULjhpA
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Was that 777 cockpit flaw on the whole production run?
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No argument here, both models are way off.. I’d do with the real version as the Landor will be parked soon and will be for sale..
Oh no.....

Am I reading this correctly.... that the landor will be gone soon? As in retire? What is the expected date?
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Due to all the coin these factories are all earning ... you'd expect them to do quality checks all the time ... if that is not that case then that is worth questioning for.
It's just the level of not caring companies is very high these days, so in the end it's all wasted efforts.

So it's best to focus on things that can be improved the way of observing models and realizing that nothing is perfect.
Perfection is an old extinct fable.

As for collection costs, we all pay a lot for out collections where it's computer parts to model planes or anything else.
Everything costs more money than it should do and prices are overall higher than normal, nothing new there., goes for everything.

And threads like these do happen a lot if I have to be honest it's the same kind of complaints.
Yet so far I haven't seen any of the company owners reply and say they are going to work on it, so yea there is that.

Criticism happens in such threads and I think I am done with my share.
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Oh no.....

Am I reading this correctly.... that the landor will be gone soon? As in retire? What is the expected date?
My bad, the Negus retro G-CIVB will be parked and decommissioned next month November 2019... short lived in the retro scheme
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Looks ok to me. What does not is the too high printed windowline and the too low sitting cockpit.

PLUS the nose could be pointier too.
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There is not one model is perfect I don't see why people need to make such a drama about such things if you want a model that is near perfect, whelp you may as well build model kits from Trumpeter, Hasegawa or Tamiya while you're at it.
Not one diecast model is 100% perfect, forget it even if you really wanted to believe that none of them are perfect.
There will always be issues here and there even if you take note of them and post them these companies won't care they make money anyways so you might as well live with it and sop putting so much wasted energy by stating such things.

It's a lost battle anyways and personally both models look fine be happy you don't have to make them yourself FOR those model companies ...
Just my views on such threads like this one
Good for you. Still, a discussion forum doesn’t only allow discussion, it is made for discussion. Please keep that in mind.
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Good for you. Still, a discussion forum doesn’t only allow discussion, it is made for discussion. Please keep that in mind.
Exactly - and any interesting discussion is going to involve opinions/criticisms/judgements about the models. If no one discusses things the place might as well be filled with the +1 bots.
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I still wanna know if JC Wings 200 Air Austral B777-300ER(Waterfall Tail Livery Scheme) in that video was an aberration or is the whole run FUBAR.
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I still wanna know if JC Wings 200 Air Austral B777-300ER(Waterfall Tail Livery Scheme) in that video was an aberration or is the whole run FUBAR.

I don´t think the whole run is fubar.


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Thanks FlyingDog. That is good to know.
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Didn't Inflight200 have a spelling error? I also like that Gemini's comes in flaps up and down, and gear up/down options and its all still cheaper than the price of inflight200
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Didn't Inflight200 have a spelling error? I also like that Gemini's comes in flaps up and down, and gear up/down options and its all still cheaper than the price of inflight200
Still what is the about with the white leading edge flaps on the JCWings.
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Didn't Inflight200 have a spelling error? I also like that Gemini's comes in flaps up and down, and gear up/down options and its all still cheaper than the price of inflight200
SERIOUSLY???????? in u.k Gemini are £25-40 MORE than inflight. always has been iirc.
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Didn't Inflight200 have a spelling error? I also like that Gemini's comes in flaps up and down, and gear up/down options and its all still cheaper than the price of inflight200
Yes indeed. I have an IF 777-300 ER Virgin Australia named „avaln beach“
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My bad, the Negus retro G-CIVB will be parked and decommissioned next month November 2019... short lived in the retro scheme
Already?!!! It’s only been in service a few months in the livery. Why bother? They should have painted one that’s going to be around a little while longer. I really enjoy seeing the retro 747s in the air and on the ground at LHR and JFK... once while riding in the crew bus to my hotel in central London, I saw the BOAC retro 747 on final approach to LHR, and I was suddenly transported back to my childhood in the early ‘70s. Even crew members who don’t really take much of an interest in aviation outside of their careers noticed it. The retro liveries turn heads wherever they go.
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