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Old 10-04-2019, 05:37 AM   #1
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Now that we finally have a long AC200 DC-8 ....what do you think we will see in the nearer future?

My definate guess is Nordair among the first releaes.

https://www.airliners.net/photo/Nord...61CF/2768610/L

I though wonder why there hasn't been a short DC_8 already.

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I would also like to see Worldways Canada, Nationair and CP Air even though inlight have done CP already.
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I'm betting you'll see them all eventually. Aeroclassics knows less people collect 200 scale so they only release a small handful at a time. I'm curious if they will ever do the super 70's. Aeroclassics are cheaper than IF200, plus I feel the landing gear are more accurate on AC
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Probably see United, Air Canada, Eastern, JAL, among others. Air Zaire would be neat!
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Trying to research, seems Nationair operated the 61 but Worldways only operated the 63. I hope Aeroclassics will do both now they have a long body as I believe it was only a difference in engines, it would make economic sence for Aeroclassics200 to do both engine types, thus 61 & 63.
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https://www.airliners.net/photo/Saud...-8-61/592527/L

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Saudia and Eastern please.
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Some nice ones coming out this month.
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And please AC... if you do the Eastern, don't over saturate and make the blue hockey stick colors too bright as your DC-8-51 was along with GJs 722. I sold my EAL 51 w/gse set as i just couldn't stand the bright colors. IF got them spot on on their 722. I went to G.T. Baker aviation school Le Jeune rd. back in 1976 and watched Eastern fly right over my head, so i know what they should look like. below are the right colors....
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United, Eastern, National, Air Canada, JAL.... just to start the list.

I received my DL -61 this week and I’m thrilled with it!
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Is it still available anywhere at any european retailer? Just saw one at Adamjets.
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Nope. Try eBay.
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A Martinair DC-8-30 in delivery colors would be nice. AC already did one in 1:400
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Is it still available anywhere at any european retailer? Just saw one at Adamjets.

If you do order one from the States, EZtoys has them available for pre-order still and expected Oct.18 + a discount code. Adamjets did have them listed for $10 less a week ago, but with their "no return policy, all sales final" due to closing (who knows when that's supposed to be ) your taking a big chance if the model arrives damaged.
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I wouldn't mind a Air New Zealand DC8-52. Can't find one any where!!
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I'm betting you'll see them all eventually. Aeroclassics knows less people collect 200 scale so they only release a small handful at a time. I'm curious if they will ever do the super 70's. Aeroclassics are cheaper than IF200, plus I feel the landing gear are more accurate on AC
Is that really true? I'm not challenging you, I'm just curious. I'm currently selling off my entire 1/400 collection in favour of furthering my 1/200 collection. I actually don't know anybody who collects 1/400. I don't know too many who collect at all, but the few who do all collect 1/200 (mostly fellow airline employees).
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If you do order one from the States, EZtoys has them available for pre-order still and expected Oct.18 + a discount code. Adamjets did have them listed for $10 less a week ago, but with their "no return policy, all sales final" due to closing (who knows when that's supposed to be ) your taking a big chance if the model arrives damaged.
The money i would save will surely be spend for the shipping costs: United States-Germany. Btw why it is almost sold out everywhere, and EZtoys has got them on pre-order?
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CP-Air did not have DC-8-61 series aircraft.
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CP-Air's DC-8 fleet:

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I also thought Air Zaire had the -61 ....but no, it was the -63.
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http://www.oldjets.net/uploads/6/3/9...47172_orig.jpg

https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos...3980.jpg?v=v40

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I am curious why nobody mentioned these before....
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Btw why it is almost sold out everywhere, and EZtoys has got them on pre-order?
EZtoys did have them, but they sold out immediately. they are restocking i guess. I wonder why i rarely see any AC200s from waffle any more?
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CP-Air did not have DC-8-61 series aircraft.
Granted, but now Aeroclassics200 have the long body it would make economical sense to do both engine types enabling either a 61 or 63 to be produced. Were there any other differences that would be noticable in 1/200 scale?
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CP-Air's DC-8 fleet:

That's a peculiar chart.

I have the AC200 DC-8-43 CF-CPJ (gorgeous model!) and it's marked 'Empress of Toronto'. (Makes a nice fit with HM's DC-6 'Empress of Toronto'. Helps I live in Toronto, and grew up in B.C. watching these aircraft regularly)

Back to the chart. In the case of CF-CPJ, for instance, it only mentions Empress of Mexico City. No mention of Toronto or Sydney. CPA gave 3 titles to this particular aircraft. I'm wondering where did you found said chart?

Just curious, that's all.
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. . . Btw why it is almost sold out everywhere, and EZtoys has got them on pre-order?
I've trying to square that circle myself. Odd, yes?
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That's a peculiar chart.

I have the AC200 DC-8-43 CF-CPJ (gorgeous model!) and it's marked 'Empress of Toronto'. (Makes a nice fit with HM's DC-6 'Empress of Toronto'. Helps I live in Toronto, and grew up in B.C. watching these aircraft regularly)

Back to the chart. In the case of CF-CPJ, for instance, it only mentions Empress of Mexico City. No mention of Toronto or Sydney. CPA gave 3 titles to this particular aircraft. I'm wondering where did you found said chart?

Just curious, that's all.
It came from this site, but I’m not sure where they got it from. I believe it was always Empress of México City as a CP Air plane. It was Empress of Toronto in the old Canadian Pacific Airlines colours. I can’t find any evidence of it being the Empress of Sydney. Where did you find that?

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CF-CPS wore Empress of Sydney.

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It came from this site, but I’m not sure where they got it from. I believe it was always Empress of México City as a CP Air plane. It was Empress of Toronto in the old Canadian Pacific Airlines colours. I can’t find any evidence of it being the Empress of Sydney. Where did you find that?

CP Air: CP Air's Fleet of Douglas DC-8's
I got this info from D.M. Bain's book "Canadian Pacific Airlines: Its History and Aircraft" 1987. This is a very complete listing of the entire CPA inventory by aircraft, date in/out, regs, etc. Minute details.

So, for example, CF-CPJ was registered with CPA on 3/5/63, was titled as 'Empress of Toronto' then 'Empress of Sydney' and finally, 'Empress of Mexico City'. The aircraft construction number was 45661. It was disposed of to Aerovias Colombianas on 12/12/81. Just about every aircraft CPA flew is listed in this book and detailed like this.

By the way, they often shifted the 'Empress of' titling 2 or 3 times during an aircrafts life with them. It can get a bit confusing at times.
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CF-CPS wore Empress of Sydney.
CF-CPS started as Sydney, then was: Fiji, Madrid, the British Columba.

They often shifted the 'Empress of' titling 2 or 3 times during an aircrafts life with them. It can get a bit confusing at times.

Consider the D.M. Bains book if you're a little more interested in CPA than the casual collector.

I lived in Prince George, B.C. during the mid-50's and early 60's and was a hangar rat as a kid (our neighbour worked at the airport). I saw all the CPA prop stuff very close up. DC-3s, DC-6s, Convair 240s, Curtiss C-46s, and Bristol Britannias (super cool!).
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I got this info from D.M. Bain's book "Canadian Pacific Airlines: Its History and Aircraft" 1987. This is a very complete listing of the entire CPA inventory by aircraft, date in/out, regs, etc. Minute details.

So, for example, CF-CPJ was registered with CPA on 3/5/63, was titled as 'Empress of Toronto' then 'Empress of Sydney' and finally, 'Empress of Mexico City'. The aircraft construction number was 45661. It was disposed of to Aerovias Colombianas on 12/12/81. Just about every aircraft CPA flew is listed in this book and detailed like this.

By the way, they often shifted the 'Empress of' titling 2 or 3 times during an aircrafts life with them. It can get a bit confusing at times.
I actually do have that book. I just haven’t dug it out in a while, I suppose. Still, the comment (and chart) was about CP Air. The CP Air era would only refer to the “orange is beautiful” era (1968-1986). Prior to that would be “Canadian Pacific Airlines” and post-CP Air would be Canadian (or Canadian Airlines). I still believe it only wore “Empress of México City” as a CP Air DC-8.
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A Martinair DC-8-30 in delivery colors would be nice. AC already did one in 1:400
That would be a very nice model indeed.
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I actually do have that book. I just haven’t dug it out in a while, I suppose. Still, the comment (and chart) was about CP Air. The CP Air era would only refer to the “orange is beautiful” era (1968-1986). Prior to that would be “Canadian Pacific Airlines” and post-CP Air would be Canadian (or Canadian Airlines). I still believe it only wore “Empress of México City” as a CP Air DC-8.
Well, CPA's history is littered with minor name changes which doesn't make things easier. Myself, I'm only interested in Canadian Pacific Airlines up to the beginning of the multimark era.

In the case of CF-CPJ, Bain lists three titles, in order of appearance. Only two we can attribute with any certainty. The first, and the last. Who knows when the mid one came into use and for how long. When CF-CPJ entered service wearing the 1961 livery in 1963, it was 'Empress of Toronto'. You are likely correct it ended its service as 'Empress of Mexico City'.
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