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Old 08-24-2019, 11:42 AM   #1
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The mould looks good, but the artwork needs some adjustment (door positioning and windowlines).
Maybe the tail and the undercarriage look more accurate on the Inflight version. But cockpit and noseshape on the GJ.
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Would you please be more specific in your comments ?

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The struts on the Inflight mdoel are shorter which at least imho give the impression to be nearer to the real thing.

https://www.planespotters.net/photo/...irbus-a310-222

The tail on the GJ version appears to be too thin + the angle on the front edge of the tail seems to be the same angle like that of the rear edge. Which simply is wrong as they differ when you look at the actual aircraft. The pax window behind the rear pax door is also missing on the GJ version.
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Telling from the photos only, I agree with you concerning Inflight's mould being superior to Gemini's.

1. The overall shape looks much better, particularly - you already mentioned that aspect - the tail shape which seems to be way off on the Gemini release; plus the too-small, too-low tail logo.

2. Length of the landing gear struts on the Inflight version looks better too, on the opposite the ground clearance of the engine nacelles does not (common problem with maaaaaany models in 1/200 scale).

3. Shape of the remarkable "wing-tip fence" on the Gemini is not 100% accurate to the real thing; will be interesting how the Inflight version will turn out on the Balair and Canadian Air Force models.

4. I cannot make a final judgement concerning the "correctness" of the nose section. Inflight is much better on the A330 and A340 (and they simply had to use that one for the A310).
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Let the two models come for comparative tests and don't forget that the reference will be the real aircraft.

Some details can be deal killers, others can be accepted, it all depends on the knowledge or vision we have of the A 310.

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Let the two models come for comparative tests and don't forget that the reference will be the real aircraft.

Some details can be deal killers, others can be accepted, it all depends on the knowledge or vision we have of the A 310.

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The struts on the Inflight mdoel are shorter which at least imho give the impression to be nearer to the real thing.

https://www.planespotters.net/photo/...irbus-a310-222

The tail on the GJ version appears to be too thin + the angle on the front edge of the tail seems to be the same angle like that of the rear edge. Which simply is wrong as they differ when you look at the actual aircraft. The pax window behind the rear pax door is also missing on the GJ version.
The struts are way too tall on GJ... Though the "missing window" appears to be correct on Gemini's release.
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Telling from the photos only, I agree with you concerning Inflight's mould being superior to Gemini's.

1. The overall shape looks much better, particularly - you already mentioned that aspect - the tail shape which seems to be way off on the Gemini release; plus the too-small, too-low tail logo.


Inflight is much better on the A330 and A340 (and they simply had to use that one for the A310).

The tail shape is way off? Logo too small and low? Where do you see that on G200's A310-300??

Do you not even have a clue that you where using an A310-200 picture posted in this thread to make your observations on G200's A310-300 in which the real aircraft have different logo sizes and placement?

Wingtip fences on the G200 (I have it in my hand) are perfectly fine. Not 100% correct? What is that supposed to mean? Off by 0.5mm ?

The fact that you intro your post with "Inflight's mould being superior" is amazing!

A quick 5-second glance of Inflight's model reveals a comprehensively bungled mold that even Inflight admitted needs revising in future releases.

Also, Inflight's A330 and A340 nose is not "much better". Look at the latest G200/JCW A330s as well as their A340-500s and -600s.

You make up facts that they "simply had to use their A330 mold". Then why does is it look so different/inaccurate on their A310-200 and there was unanimous agreement that the nose is screwed up?

Finally, someone mentioned that G200's A310 is missing a passenger window behind the last door as an error. Well that as well is correct on G200's model.

It is amazing how people just make up random observations/facts and post them as criticisms.

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The tail shape is way off? Logo too small and low? Where do you see that on G200's A310-300??

Do you not even have a clue that you where using an A310-200 picture posted in this thread to make your observations on G200's A310-300 in which the real aircraft have different logo sizes and placement?

The fact that you intro your post with "Inflight's mould being superior" is amazing!

A quick 5-second glance of Inflight's model reveals a comprehensively bungled mold that even Inflight admitted needs revising in future releases.

Finally, Inflight's A330 and A340 nose is not "much better". Look at the latest G200/JCW A330s as well as their A340-500s and -600s.

You make up facts that they "simply had to use their A330 mold". Then why does is it look so different/inaccurate on their A310-200 and there was unanimous agreement that the nose is screwed up?

Finally, someone mentioned that G200's A310 is missing a passenger window behind the last door as an error. Well that as well is correct on G200's model.

It is amazing how people just make up random observations/facts and post them as criticisms.
1. Please calm down.
2. Talking about Inflight’s revised A310 mould.
3. Compare Gemini’s Pan Am A310 to the real thing concerning the overall shape of the vertical stabilizer and the positions and size of the tail logo. You should rapidly note the differences. i
4. Have fun and please refrain from insulting others for posting their criticism in a reasonable manner. Thanks.

By the way, I made the restriction that I was referring to the photos available only. I did not say my judgement was final or the one and only ‘true story’. As Jean-Pierre already said, let them come out both for a 1:1-comparison. I don’t think this is a real problem for you or anyone.
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1. Please calm down.
2. Talking about Inflight’s revised A310 mould.
3. Compare Gemini’s Pan Am A310 to the real thing concerning the overall shape of the vertical stabilizer and the positions and size of the tail logo. You should rapidly note the differences. i
4. Have fun and please refrain from insulting others for posting their criticism in a reasonable manner. Thanks.

By the way, I made the restriction that I was referring to the photos available only. I did not say my judgement was final or the one and only ‘true story’. As Jean-Pierre already said, let them come out both for a 1:1-comparison. I don’t think this is a real problem for you or anyone.

Even more incoherent (revisionist) babble...

I just really hope that collectors that come and use this forum as a reference and place to make informed buying decisions are smart enough to be skeptical of the ill-informed "judgements" and postings by resident "photo-analysts".
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Even more incoherent (revisionist) babble...

I just really hope that collectors that come and use this forum as a reference and place to make informed buying decisions are smart enough to be skeptical of the ill-informed "judgements" and postings by resident "photo-analysts".
Yeah, sure, mate! Just go ahead.
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I haven't seen the InFlight in person, but I have seen the Gemini.
It is way better than the Hobbymaster one we were "treated" to a few years back. Looks pretty good to me, and would have bought it, but not looking for Pan Am...
Singapore Airlines, please...
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Singapore Airlines, please...

Agreed.
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I would like to see the SIA A310 as well and Air Jamaica too!
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The very fact that the engines are not dragging the ground on this one makes this by far the more appealing mold to me…
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I haven't seen the InFlight in person, but I have seen the Gemini.
It is way better than the Hobbymaster one we were "treated" to a few years back. Looks pretty good to me, and would have bought it, but not looking for Pan Am...
Singapore Airlines, please...
I agree, when the HM model is the reference (such as my KLM A310), both Inflight and Gemini have made significant improvements.
So a replacement for my KLM would be more than welcome.

As far as comparing models is concerned; What's important for one, may not be for the other. Let's not judge or present observations as heavenly facts.
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I agree, when the HM model is the reference (such as my KLM A310), both Inflight and Gemini have made significant improvements.
So a replacement for my KLM would be more than welcome.f
As far as comparing models is concerned; What's important for one, may not be for the other. Let's not judge or present observations as heavenly facts.
I am tempted to order the Gemini A310 for a better comparison to the forthcoming revised Inflight A310 mould. Whereas I do see some points made by several collecting friends here, I am still unhappy with the tail shape and the wingtip fences. As stated earlier, I do like Gemini‘s mould with respect to nose section (we are not talking about the A330/A340 here) and with ground clearance of the engines (which has to be set in relation to the length of the gear struts, which is another aspect).

What bothers me a bit is that Gemini chose to make a rather uncommon version of its two A310 liveries (just focus on the tail logo‘s size and positioning as well as the US flag). I have seen Pan Am A310s on the trans-Atlantic services frequently and this version simply does not bring back memories as the other (albeit slightly different only) livery would do.

And, finally, just a sidenote for you, AZ610: the existence of the wingtip fences does not permit to differ between the „medium-range -200“, and the „long-range -300“ version, respectively.
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Got my Gemini Pan Am A310 today and must say I like it very much...soooo much better then the hobbymaster wich I sold last week. Only downside untill now is that the magnetic gear is not so strong.
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Looks great Baerke! Glad you are pleased with your new delivery.
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Spectacular this model Baerke.
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Go buy the real aircraft if you want things perfect, everyone complains, its a toy, get over it.....

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no doubt adult collectible.. but come on now it cant be perfect. i see people staring at these models for hours from every angle, it isnt perfect! when i worked for Delta and looked at these planes up close, there is noooo way in comparison the same detail. So be happy you have the thing sitting in the box in your house,
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I'm not complaining. As another member states:

I buy what I like and I like what I buy.

For me, I'm satisfied by the effort that these manufacturers put into their models. I only wish that they would offer more choices for us old school collectors.
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Saw the GJ A310 in person, absolutely great model!
Hoping for GJ to make an Air-India A310-300 and KLM A310-200.
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Thanks much for your quick snapshots. Looks great. Would you mind trying to take a close up picture of the wingtip fence as well as the tail? Yes, I know, one or another collector will post a comparative thread here sooner or later; I’m just a little bit impatient.

PS.: You and some one else mentioned the HobbyMaster A310 model. I think we all agree that HM’s effort was nothing more than that – an effort.
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For those who are interested, I have an Airbus document showing the dimensions of the vertical fin.
Same for the engine nacelles, engine pylons and ground clearance (already published).

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For those who are interested, I have an Airbus document showing the dimensions of the vertical fin.
Same for the engine nacelles, engine pylons and ground clearance (already published).

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Some more pics for you Madridista!

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At the request of Madridista ...

The engine nacelle and engine pylon are those of a PW powered aircraft.

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Got my PAN AM A310 today and very pleased with it ! Eagerly awayting the upcoming DELTA bird. Hopefully there will be a Lufthansa Bus in the not too distant future ..
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3x Photos of the new A310 Delta on Toddmodels INSTAGRAM
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Apart from Lufthansa, Swissair, TAP, British Caledonian and Austrian Airlines, renowned German charter carrier Hapag-Lloyd was a long-time and major operator of the A310 in Europe. Hapag-Lloyd belonged to inclusive-tour company TUI, and was later renamed TUIfly. Their 1980's/1990's livery is a classic (talking about the original livery with the grey belly).

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Default Re: GJs A310

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Nice pics of the A310 Delta
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