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Old 03-20-2019, 05:51 AM   #1
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It is almost 35 years ago since the last DC-8 left the KLM fleet. Many of us still recall KLM's first jet plane. For me as a 5 year old boy, it was my first flight on an aircraft; The start of a life long passion for aviation.

It was back in the spring of 1978 on a typical holiday flight from Amsterdam to Malaga. I don't have personal photo's but only my memories. now 40 years later I still remember the bright colored seats (the seventies ), the mighty and noisy engines from the window and the relaxed atmosphere in the cockpit, when the children were allowed to visit. The captain chatting, the first officer listening to the radio and the flight engineer smoking his pipe, while watching all his dials (indeed, the seventies ). And from that moment I knew that I wanted to become an airline pilot.

Therefore this model means a lot to me. Sold out in days and is worth while a few pictures:






A few comparisons


The long body -63 with the short DC-8-55CF Jet Trader (PH-DCS)


And with a Transavia 707. The big jets from that area.


Walkaround










The atmosphere (back than)






The place were it all started for me.


Back to today

Forty years later I am back on this route, now as a captain on the B-737-800. Yesterday, just after taking the pictures, I flew the daily evening service to AGP (Malaga) and it remains a special route for me. The airport is not recognizable from the old days. The aircraft have improved a lot, the luxury of air travel has decreased. Wat is unchanged is my passion for aviation and love for aircraft.


'my' 737 next to the vintage jet. "When I grow up, I want to be a pilot". "Sorry, you can't do both"! I hope you all like the photos and the little story behind my avatar.

cheers, VJ

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KLM rocks.
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KLM sure rocks & especially when they flew all the McDonnell Douglas jets back then, such as these DC-8's.. to think about it, this year KLM will also turn 100 years in October..
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... this year KLM will also turn 100 years in October..
In fact the three oldest airlines are KLM, AVIANCA and QANTAS.

British Airways will celebrate its 45th anniversary on 31 March 2019.

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Lovely models you’ve got there, sir! If I could only get my hands on a Philippine Airlines DC8-63 PH-DEL (leased from KLM) by Inflight...

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Very nice out door shots VJ. And a very nice story attached about how you got to be an airline pilot. If you were 5 back in 78, then we must be the same age. Had my first flight back in 78 as a 5 year old boy aswell, but unfortunately it was not to Malaga. It was a NLM flight on a F27 from Maastricht to Schiphol.
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Great post VJ.

Some people will be tempted to say that you are lucky, in fact, you worked a lot, always with the same aim.

Confucius said : "Choose a job you love and you will never have to work a day in your life".

You are a happy man.

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That's a very nice model, great pics. My first memories of DC-8s are of UA -61s at LAX. We are about the same age and watching all the different shapes and colors, jets from around the world come and go was intoxicating for a 5 year old. We were lucky to grow up then, my Dad was a pilot based at LAX and at the time could pretty much take me anywhere on the airport (so long as I dutifully held his hand tight). Right up to planes pushing on the ramp, or to take pictures of my sister and I standing in the nacelle of a DC-10. I had no chance, aviation took over!

Now as a pilot based at the same airport I'm lucky I don't need an escort to my own jet.....

Anyway, times change but I'm lucky every day I go to work. This is a great hobby to elicit some of those great, warm memories. Thanks for sharing!
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In fact the three oldest airlines are KLM, AVIANCA and QANTAS.

British Airways will celebrate its 45th anniversary on 31 March 2019.

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Very interesting. I always thought that Pan American Airways was one of the oldest as well.
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Hi Vintage Jet,

Great looking model.

Had the opportunity to have flown on several KLM DC-8-63's several times, from AMS and CAI.



Thanks for posting all of your pics.

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Great pictures and a great story! Thank you for sharing!
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Love this thread great catch with that Douglas KLM DC-8-63 there too,, I do recall these having KLM's white top livery as well was during the mid 1960's to late 1970's if memory serves me well

How did the DC_8-63 perform for you? acceleration speed and comfort wise?

Just kind of curious it's cabin looks similar to that of the B737 or A-320 these days as room goes. yet the feel of freedon was more of a thing back then I remeber my 5 B747 flights clearly

KLM B747-206B PH-BUA
KLM B747-306M PH-BUU
Malaysia B747-4H6 9M-MHL

Loved all three B747's tho, as how you love your DC-8's
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If you were 5 back in 78, then we must be the same age. Had my first flight back in 78 as a 5 year old boy aswell, but unfortunately it was not to Malaga. It was a NLM flight on a F27 from Maastricht to Schiphol.
Yup, were both the same age Actually, in the same year as my first ride (on the DC-8) I was a passenger on the Frienship as well! In the '80 I made multiple flights between Groningen and Amsterdam, so I do share the love and memories for the F27! https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com...riendship.html

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Some people will be tempted to say that you are lucky, in fact, you worked a lot, always with the same aim. Confucius said : "Choose a job you love and you will never have to work a day in your life".

You are a happy man.

Jean Pierre.
Confucius was almost right Jean Pierre. I am happy and indeed lucky to love my job. But it doesn't feel that I made a choice. It rather choose me for some irrational reason. I was confronted with that fact at the age of 5 and I still can't give a rational explanation what flying and aviation in general means to me.

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Love this thread great catch with that Douglas KLM DC-8-63 there too,, I do recall these having KLM's white top livery as well was during the mid 1960's to late 1970's if memory serves me well

How did the DC_8-63 perform for you? acceleration speed and comfort wise?

Just kind of curious it's cabin looks similar to that of the B737 or A-320 these days as room goes. yet the feel of freedon was more of a thing back then I remeber my 5 B747 flights clearly

KLM B747-206B PH-BUA
KLM B747-306M PH-BUU
Malaysia B747-4H6 9M-MHL

Loved all three B747's tho, as how you love your DC-8's
Hi Gold Leader,
Well, I can't give any testimony of the performance of the DC-8 since I was 5 back than ;-) But I remember that, although the cabin dimensions were similar to modern aircraft, the DC-8-63 had a huge galley in the middle of the cabin and that all kind of service was provided to the passengers that is obsolete in European air travel nowadays. Kids that visit the flight deck even got the famous "KLM Junior Wing", which, unfortunately, I have lost over the years.

You are right on the white rooftop. The fundaments of the current corporate identity of KLM lies in the 1961 design of Henrion Design Associates.

As being original a German, designer F.H.K. Henrion based his design of the crown on the Gestalt laws for designers. The associated livery was introduced in the beginning of the '60 with the introduction of the DC-9.
With the introduction of the B747 the horizontal stripes at the vertical fin were removed (because the huge fin would look like a giant Pyjama) and the KLM crown logo was enlarged to gain recognizability. When the first 747 PH-BUA was introduced, it had a white rooftop and a white tail. The graphic designers were not too happy with this white whale. It was not distinctive enough (and white quickly turns into squalid), so it was decided to introduce the blue rooftop instead. Also because that could create more recognizability from a large distance. We now know that this was a golden step in livery design!

cheers, VJ

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Very nice. I remember that my brother had a poster in his room with a (model) of a KLM 747 on it in the pyjama tail. Loved it.
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