Unfortunately, I never came across this model when I visited CAM from 1996 to 2001.
This Caravelle looks very nice, I know that there was also an AF version, of course with a dorsal fin ...
The only models I have are the well known Hogan Model and the less known Heathrow Model (AF).
I could not agree more...yes I have that one..its buried on the middle shelf in this photo..I have been very lucky as none of my models have not rolled off the shelf facing straight down!.
I could not agree more...yes I have that one..its buried on the middle shelf in this photo..I have been very lucky as none of my models have not rolled off the shelf facing straight down!.
I wonder if Mr Klein of AeroClassics 200 fame would be interested in taking the Caravelle on? Some his recent retro jetliners have been quite spectacular.
Just wondering out loud so he may hear . . .
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I wonder if Mr Klein of AeroClassics 200 fame would be interested in taking the Caravelle on? Some his recent retro jetliners have been quite spectacular.
Just wondering out loud so he may hear . . .
Already made in 1/400 scale and I have one. Inflight200 currently have a good 1/200 Caravelle mould, so that is a possibility, providing you can accept that United's Caravelles didn't have the fin spine running down the roof.
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The missing B.707s still needed to be done in 1/400: Uganda Airlines, Luxair,
DC-8s still needed to be done in 1/400: UAT, Iberia ('80s scheme), Air Ceylon, Air Spain, Seaboard World (-63CF)
Aeroclassics Comets still missing- Dan Air (4 & 4C), United Arab Airlines/Misrair/Egyptair, Kuwait AW, Sudan AW, East African AW, Saudi Royal Flt.
Already made in 1/400 scale and I have one. Inflight200 currently have a good 1/200 Caravelle mould, so that is a possibility, providing you can accept that United's Caravelles didn't have the fin spine running down the roof.
Ah, yes. InFlight. I forgot about them. I have yet to see some crisp photos or one or two in real. I doubt a‘spined’ United Caravelle would pass muster with a large number here.
As far as InFlight doing these, Western/AC200 could as well. Herpa and HM both make DC-6’s, Constellations, Viscounts, etc.
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Already made in 1/400 scale and I have one. Inflight200 currently have a good 1/200 Caravelle mould, so that is a possibility, providing you can accept that United's Caravelles didn't have the fin spine running down the roof.
I don't remember caravelles having a bulge in the forward fuselage section though. Puts me off this mould.
I think it is a trick of the eye. If you place a straight edge along the top of the fuselage in the photo it appears straight. I think it is the angle of the box placement in relation to the plane throwing the look of the plane off as if it has a bulge.
I think it is a trick of the eye. If you place a straight edge along the top of the fuselage in the photo it appears straight. I think it is the angle of the box placement in relation to the plane throwing the look of the plane off as if it has a bulge.
I don't notice it on theWestern,Hogan,Herpa models it's only on the new ARD/Inflight versions.
I have the Iberia issue of this Inflight model and I can't say there is any kind of noticeable bulge. When you look at the actual model it looks perfectly ok.
I have the Iberia issue of this Inflight model and I can't say there is any kind of noticeable bulge. When you look at the actual model it looks perfectly ok.
Yeah — I suspect it is just camera angle.
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Im keeping my Hogans ! The wings are accurately shaped, the nose area, and most important the landing gears are correctly shaped and scaled.
Yeah, but I damn-near grind my teeth to dust when I look at the AF flight deck windscreen. Two attempts and Hogan STILL managed to caulk it up. Everything else about that model rings the bells.
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You are right, Hogan Caravelles were very nice.
But there are two things I don't like on the AF model : the windshield and the blue chatline at the rear.
Not too difficult to improve these details.
Jean Pierre, I believe you have "Grenoble" there, in that photo?!
You are lucky to have that one, since those cockpit windows are the updated ones, I only got " Lorraine" when it came out, and yes, they are the small ones:
Then had to get the Air Inter and the windows were larger on this release:
And its really a shame this mould vanished somehow....it is still better shaped and scaled, in my opinion. But what do I know?!.....
It seems that the Inflight200 United Caravelle N1019U is in the final (end sixties) livery before it was sold to Sterling Airways. Any flaws or thoughts about this new 1:200 scale model?
I am coming a bit late, I apologize, I am afraid that the Inflight Caravelle is a lost cause.
I don't want to be too critical but from what I see on the picture available on the Aviation Megastore website, a lot of things could have been better.
The cockpit windows do not reflect the modifications brought to the Caravelle VI R.
The triangular window, the one we used to open when in Summer it was very hot in the cockpit (no APU) should have the shape of an equilateral triangle on the VI R, consequently, the lateral window is not correct.
Better than words, I attach a comparison shot showing the old and new cockpit windows.
This Caravelle is a VI R, R stands for Reverse, thrust reversers are missing on the engines.
Later, it seems that the aircraft received some kind of "corogard" on the wings, it should not cover the wing fences which remained bare aluminium.
The VI R had the distinct particularity of having airbrakes and spoilers.
Airbrakes must not be confused with spoilers.
Airbrakes create additional drag when they are deployed, without altering the lift, they are primarily used to reduce the speed.
Spoilers create additional drag but most importantly destroy the lift, they are used during a rejected take off or after the landing.
Destroying the lift means increasing the weight of the aircraft on its main landing gear despite the existing lift generated by the wing due to the speed and that way, the braking action is more efficient.
Used simultaneously, the thrust reversers are very helpful.
On the early Caravelles, we only had the airbrakes that we used after the landing.
Stopping the aircraft on a wet or contaminated runway (slush, snow, water ...) was quite interesting, the anti skid system was very basic, the use of the drag chute was the solution.
Back to the airbrakes ...
Despite the many photos available these airbrakes are pure guesswork.
The spoilers are missing.
Put side by side, it is hard to believe that this Caravelle and the excellent A 320 released by Inflight have the same manufacturer.
Unless unlikely improvements, this model will not find its way of my cabinet.
Jean Pierre.
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A complete disaster, as Jean-Pierre rightly feared.
Even before opening the box, the artwork worryingly says it is United SE 210 Caravelle III. UAL only operated the VI R, a variant specifically designed to meet the airline requirements.
The debacle continues after unboxing.
Small cockpit windows. A real show stopper, considering the larger windows were introduced to satisfy FAA visibility requirements.
Underwing airbrakes are located within the flaps. Overwings airbrakes are not at the correct location either.
Not sure about the overwing emergency evacuation markings - they might have been there at the end of the Caravelle career at UAL, I have yet to find the photographic evidence.
I am curious to know ... Quite a few Caravelles have been released by Inflight and ARD, do they all have the underwing airbrakes printed that way ?
Interesting to read the home page on the Inflight website.
"With feed back and praise coming from airlines and collectors around the world, Inflight 200 continue to strive to set new standards ...."
I am curious to know ... Quite a few Caravelles have been released by Inflight and ARD, do they all have the underwing airbrakes printed that way ?
Interesting to read the home page on the Inflight website. "With feed back and praise coming from airlines and collectors around the world, Inflight 200 continue to strive to set new standards ...."
Jean Pierre.
They do continue continue to set NEW standards. Just not accurate ones.
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