Ah well I just hope all comes to a good ending, as said before.
As for this thread, I do think it was worth it and for those that don't, I respect their opinions on the matter.
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I have avoided this guy after my first and only experience! I purchased a 1/200 scale model and its wing was broken in its cradle. yet the exterior and shipping box was MINT! Waffle denied he sent me a broken model considering i won it for a very low bid. i was lucky he gave me a partial refund. But it seems that considering this was over 5 years ago, he must've changed for the worse by this point.
Like i said, 1st impression lasting impression. Im glad i dealt with him one time and only once! LEARN FROM SUCH LESSONS!
I have avoided this guy after my first and only experience! I purchased a 1/200 scale model and its wing was broken in its cradle. yet the exterior and shipping box was MINT! Waffle denied he sent me a broken model considering i won it for a very low bid. i was lucky he gave me a partial refund. But it seems that considering this was over 5 years ago, he must've changed for the worse by this point.
Like i said, 1st impression lasting impression. Im glad i dealt with him one time and only once! LEARN FROM SUCH LESSONS!
It doesn’t take much for stuff to come loose. You accuse him of intentionally sending you a broken model which you have no proof of and there is no shortage of people here that have had parts come loose, he gives you a partial refund (on something you admit was cheap) and you’re still mad.
Was there damage to the paint? Then glue it back in...it was glued in the first place.
It doesn’t take much for stuff to come loose. You accuse him of intentionally sending you a broken model which you have no proof of and there is no shortage of people here that have had parts come loose, he gives you a partial refund (on something you admit was cheap) and you’re still mad.
Was there damage to the paint? Then glue it back in...it was glued in the first place.
Beat me too it.
I will never understand why people complain and bi tch about a loose wing or tail. I have a 1:400 America West 757, my very first model purchased in 2009, that I still display and no matter how many times I glue the horizontal stabilizer it, after time it comes loose again. Just simply put a dab of glue and go on. Wonder how Nick would feel if I emailed him requesting a refund...
Directly from Waffles FAQ tab that MANY people do not read...
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Models are NOT returnable for the following reasons:
1. Cockpit placement either too high or too low, however, smudged or non-standard defective printing is considered a defect.
2. Dragon Wings models arriving with gear fallen out since it is designed to be easily removed.
3. Mis-printed registrations. OH-LGY instead of OH-LGV or other mis-prints even if altered slightly from as advertised.
4. Any issue that is not noticeable under normal lighting and viewing conditions with the naked eye. For example, the color should be “blue-green” instead of “turquoise”. 5. Models with tightly or loosely fitting parts. A touch of white Elmer's glue or a little gentle force will ALWAYS resolve this.
6. Models that have gears that are "too short" or "too tall" whether they be a nose gear, main gear, or gear of any sort.
7. Models may not be returned because a box description is slightly off, or is different generic box, or is packaged differently for ANY reason. Boxes are to protect models and to store them, this is NOT a box retail website. Crushed corners, flaps, creases or any damage to the actual box itself is NOT ground for RETURNS for ANY reason.
8. GSE vehicles that are not included or do not move in a fully functional manner.
Here in the Netherlands if I buy a model and it has loose parts, I may make contact with the shop (via email or by phone) I bought it from and file in a RMA (Return Merchandise Authorization) or return of the product for a replacement or refund.
if a customer pays a lot of money for an expensive model, they are paying for a 100% new state product that has no physical defects, this is what customers will demand and expect, they will not expect to fix and super glue broken models they paid money for, some people like me have a heavy form of arthritis I would only make a mess of it and the glue fumes I am allergic to I would simply return the model and either see if I can get it replaced otherwise I file in for a full refund and it's never been an issue either where I am located, The Netherlands a modern country with sellers than know how to use common sense.
So if there is a physical defect, the customer may by all means return it for a replacement or a refund, no ways around it, you sell and ship worldwide, you will deal with rules from other countries outside that of your own.
It's not up the seller to decide what one does with such situations, even if they have self created rules, these rules won't do much in such situations, a seller may not ignore such things just to get their own ways.
That would not be a very smart left alone proper thing to do.
Other than that d3jcs has proved us with a valid screenshot on how he was treated, all the "I never had an issue" comments are all utterly irrelevant to the issues d3jcs is dealing with.
All great stories and all, but utterly useless comments in the end.
All that has nothing to do with the racism apposed on the non-American customer d3jcs.
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However, Waffle isn't based in the Netherlands. He's based in America. And in America business owners have the freedom to create their own policies. Outsiders must obey his policies as he is the business owner. Just like I would visit the Netherlands, which is on my bucket list, and obey Dutch laws. I wouldn't follow American laws because I am not in America.
You keep saying the comments are irrelevant but you keep adding to the irrelevant comments...
Again. We all saw the racism that Waffle had said. We all condemned it. However, what he said is protected by the first amendment. If D3jcs wanted to take it further he could take it to court for defamatory. But good luck with that.
However, Waffle isn't based in the Netherlands. He's based in America. And in America business owners have the freedom to create their own policies. Outsiders must obey his policies as he is the business owner. Just like I would visit the Netherlands, which is on my bucket list, and obey Dutch laws. I wouldn't follow American laws because I am not in America.
You keep saying the comments are irrelevant but you keep adding to the irrelevant comments...
Again. We all saw the racism that Waffle had said. We all condemned it. However, what he said is protected by the first amendment. If D3jcs wanted to take it further he could take it to court for defamatory. But good luck with that.
Sighs No need to shove words in my mouth, I never asked for it, I never said the Netherlands was perfect, quite the inaccurate accusing there!
You half read a post and you start accusing things?
Read before you start accusing.
So for you I repeat myself again, since it seems you misread me completely.
if a customer pays a lot of money for an expensive model or any other product and it arrives with physical defects, they have all the rights to RMA for a replacement or a full refund.
There I made it shorter so hoping you get it
So yes I am actually adding comments that make sense, as I am supporting my friend d3jcs.
But you seem to be blind as you only want to see things from your own perspective, it seems that Racism is aloud in USA, not all too surprising it seems then...
That is the image you are giving to not only just me..
That you had a good experience doesn't prove a thing, d3jcs proved he was dealt with a racist seller yet you keep defending the racist seller.
And so far I can see Waffles never apologized to my friend d3jcs, if so got proof?
Also strange how a banned member can rejoin with an alt account..
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Once again -- I hate to break this to you...but all of your models have pieces that were...GLUED in at the factory. It's shocking, I know.
Now, maybe your models would be a little less expensive if retailers didn't have to plan for all the people that want to send back models that would take all of 2 seconds to fix on their own using the exact same method that they were assembled with.
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Let's put this in perspective since you're so modern and have so much common sense.
The new Gemini 200 Southwest 737.
You can pre-order that plane many places, including eBay, for about $74 with shipping within the US.
$74 USD is roughly 65 EUR
At Aviation Megastore in Modern Netherlands with common sense sellers...that model is 77 EUR plus shipping within The Netherlands is an additional 8 EUR for a total of 85 EUR converted to $97 USD
So, you would rather pay 20 EUR more for a 737 model because you can return it for free during the small percentage times you might receive a model that has a loose part. Okay, got it. From a seller's perspective, that does actually make a lot of sense. I mean the odds of you coming out ahead aren't quite like Vegas but that's pretty good.
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One again, people pay for a new product that is in perfect state they are buying from a shop and not a second hand store, in the EU it's of no issue to return products with physical defects.
It's their job to make sure a product is delivered in perfect state, it is a new item, as being not a second hand one
Also I buy diecast scale 1:200 B747's, they are quite a lot more expensive than B737's and if they have physical defects, I can just send them back for a good replacement, after making contact with the shops and/or sellers.
But anyways I will leave it be here, some of you tend to be rather biassed on your own beliefs and I accept that as your so called experiences are different, but overall I will never defend racist people and I won't give a damn who it is, especially from an actually banned person that has caused others grief as well.
nuff said.
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Last edited by Gold Leader; 12-29-2018 at 11:41 PM.
Oh, okay. The differences in the higher prices you pay must cease to exist when the model changes from a 737 to a 747.
I'm not defending what he said, either. I'm just pointing out how ridiculous it is that you can't glue in a loose piece and that you pay a lot more money for the exact same model for that warm cushy feeling that you can send it back if needed. You're paying extra, 100% of the time, for something that is probably needed 10% of the time.
But hey, you're modern and have common sense. Us dumb folk just ain't understanding them economic things.
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Nah you're fine man after all I do admit I did get a little out of hand here, just these kind of matters just do get to me as I myself been though similar bs and d3jcs being a friend and all, I kinda stand behind his cause.
No harm done though,I just ope this will all come to good endings.
I am not perfect if I was, I would not be disabled
Then again no one is perfect.
Back to Collecting Boeing 747's for me, I'll stick to DM's from this point
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This behavior by any seller is despicable no matter what is written in the bylaws and fine print. This seller has shown this ugly side not for the first time and should not hide behind the many times of good business that he has provided. A professional response with mention of his rules would've sufficed. This racial slur can not be ignored.
The best part of this conversation is to remind yourself that you can choose who to do business with if you happen to live in a country that allows that. Thankfully the US and many other countries around the world still do and hopefully also will in future. I love America for having given, not only it's own inhabitants but indirectly many other people around the world, some degree of freedom of choice. Hopefully it's not gonna be taken away...
You may try to contact their community or local newspapers if you wanted to let their neighborhood knowing the ugly side of this online shop. They probably will do free "adv." for him. You may also call the US consumer right dept. to ask about the full refund, plus his email. Well, you may also send his response to the Chinese manufacturers (HM, JC-Wings, ...) and the US distributors. This hobby is getting tough with price increase, QC issue, and racist / bad retailers etc.
This whole thread should be null and void based on a technicality..
If one Asian calls another Asian a name racist or not..it offsets and does not count..
I just hung up with Andrew Klein and told him he was an obnoxious J** ..I ve done this as well on forums too but it cancels out because I too am an obnoxious J**...
People from the same religion or background calling others out of the same race does not count...
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Re: Waffle Collectibles is a racist
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Thank you for the heads up. I would like to know who I conduct biz with, and ignorant bigoted ****heads are not on my list. Its enough this country has an ignorant, racist orangutan for president, last thing I need to be doing is financing these *******s that feel newly empowered.
Seriously? It's because of the lefties in the US calling everyone they don't agree with a racist, that the word itself has lost it's meaning!!
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This whole thread should be null and void based on a technicality..
If one Asian calls another Asian a name racist or not..it offsets and does not count..
I just hung up with Andrew Klein and told him he was an obnoxious J** ..I ve done this as well on forums too but it cancels out because I too am an obnoxious J**...
People from the same religion or background calling others out of the same race does not count...
CASE CLOSED....
Let me chime in on your closed case; as I just posted above, the term "racist" has completely lost it's true meaning in the US at least, because of the identity politics practiced by the intolerant Left.
When I didn't agree with former President Obama's policies, I was labelled a racist! When I call out self-hating Jews for their self-destructive policies, especially in Israel, I'm called a racist, even though I'm one of them! When an Asian (with some Chinese bloodlines and a Chinese wife) makes an anti-Chinese remark, he's called a racist?
When African American rappers recite their lyrics containing "N****r" in every verse, there is deafening silence. If I was to type that N-word in full, I'd be a racist too!!??
Bottom line, like I've said, that term has been overkilled in this part of the world for over a decade, and has no more meaning.
Happy New Year to you all!!
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Let me chime in on your closed case; as I just posted above, the term "racist" has completely lost it's true meaning in the US at least, because of the identity politics practiced by the intolerant Left.
When I didn't agree with former President Obama's policies, I was labelled a racist! When I call out self-hating Jews for their self-destructive policies, especially in Israel, I'm called a racist, even though I'm one of them! When an Asian (with some Chinese bloodlines and a Chinese wife) makes an anti-Chinese remark, he's called a racist?
When African American rappers recite their lyrics containing "N****r" in every verse, there is deafening silence. If I was to type that N-word in full, I'd be a racist too!!??
Bottom line, like I've said, that term has been overkilled in this part of the world for over a decade, and has no more meaning.
Happy New Year to you all!!
Boohoo, what a bunch of self-indulgent victimhood. Not surprised given your incoherent and irrelevant ramblings.
BTW, who made you a tautological zeus anyways?
I don't care if Warfel is direct descendant of Chairman Mao and Confucius, he is a biz owner that decided to racially and ethnically slur a customer, I for one am glad that this came to light so as not to patronize him and his ilk.
The mental gymnastics employed by some here are spectacular. Like I said, the bigot Warfel was at least correct on one thing, this forum is dying.
Watching the self appointed riteous insult and abuse others, when they disagree with them ialways makes interesting viewing.
It’s both extremely funny and at the same time depressingly sad.
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Jeez. The amout of "Virtue Signalling" going on in this thread is mind blowing!
Good grief. Has the snowflakes taken over DAC as well now?
I am sick and tired of "Racism this and racisims that". An insult is an insult.
Don't understand why "a racist" comment is so much worse than trying to screw someone over otherwise?
Michael didn't take anything away from this person. Didn't persecute him. The whole conversation was very polite until this snowflake threw his toys out the cot and wanted to cancell the entire order. What a **** move.
In the real world people insult each other with hurtful comments as a way to get back at them screwing you over. Doesn't mean you want to harm them.
Good lord, if "words" hurts you, then the Islamists won in that free speech is dead. Well done people. Bunch of snowflakes.
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If you can say "**** Mr. Warfel and his apologists"...
then his apologists can say exactly the same to you and your fellow "racism keyboard warriors".
Think on this. Everyone is racist in some way or another. We are tribal animals.
Is it not a well known Arab saying: “I against my brother; I and my brother against my cousin; I and my brother and my cousin against the world.”
I wonder if Gold Leader and Alitalia will sing another song when "their culture" is threatened by immagrants. I wonder if a different tune will then be sung? Will it then also be called racists if they use certain words?
I think this whole sad thread has been blown out of proportion and the circle jerk is astonishing. Maybe Michael was correct, forums are dying.
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Jeez. The amout of "Virtue Signalling" going on in this thread is mind blowing!
Good grief. Has the snowflakes taken over DAC as well now?
I am sick and tired of "Racism this and racisims that". An insult is an insult.
Don't understand why "a racist" comment is so much worse than trying to screw someone over otherwise?
Michael didn't take anything away from this person. Didn't persecute him. The whole conversation was very polite until this snowflake threw his toys out the cot and wanted to cancell the entire order. What a **** move.
In the real world people insult each other with hurtful comments as a way to get back at them screwing you over. Doesn't mean you want to harm them.
Good lord, if "words" hurts you, then the Islamists won in that free speech is dead. Well done people. Bunch of snowflakes.
@ALITALIA AZ610
If you can say "**** Mr. Warfel and his apologists"...
then his apologists can say exactly the same to you and your fellow "racism keyboard warriors".
Think on this. Everyone is racist in some way or another. We are tribal animals.
Is it not a well known Arab saying: “I against my brother; I and my brother against my cousin; I and my brother and my cousin against the world.”
I wonder if Gold Leader and Alitalia will sing another song when "their culture" is threatened by immagrants. I wonder if a different tune will then be sung? Will it then also be called racists if they use certain words?
I think this whole sad thread has been blown out of proportion and the circle jerk is astonishing. Maybe Michael was correct, forums are dying.
noted...
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Last edited by Gold Leader; 12-30-2018 at 06:15 PM.
“Racism” is institutional, ya dimwits. Did Pancakes apply for a job to work for Waffle, and Waffle didn’t hire him because of his race..? If yes, that’s an example of “racism”.
People calling each other names, no matter what they are, and getting all pissy about it is silly. Be evolved here, people!
“Racism” is institutional, ya dimwits. Did Pancakes apply for a job to work for Waffle, and Waffle didn’t hire him because of his race..? If yes, that’s an example of “racism”.
People calling each other names, no matter what they are, and getting all pissy about it is silly. Be evolved here, people!
True, but 83 posts bringing people out of the woodwork that hardly ever contribute anything to the forum makes good reading.
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It wasn't just some hateful comment it's racism and that should not be accepted no matter the content of what was said.
And again your comment isn't like solving the issue here, it has little to do with what happened, left alone it proves nothing.
Edited post - Decided after the fact I would be happier deleting my comments. Hope everyone has a good New Years, 10.5 hours to go for me! Now, wheres my beer gone.........
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No need to shove words in my mouth, I never asked for it, I never said the Netherlands was perfect, quite the inaccurate accusing there! 
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