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Old 10-15-2018, 06:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Soooo, as many of you know.. Gemini has released the October models!! And the dreamlifter is one of them.. what are you’re guys thoughts on it? Do you think it’ll have a full interior? Or just a small section, sort of like the c17?
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Immaterial. Either way I'm all over this one.
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This one will sell out quicker than the P-8...
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Very surprised to see this model made, it could give a modeler many great diorama ideas..
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I will certainly order one, will replace the plastic one I already have, and loving the rear opening door, as Surinam Air 747 said some possible dioramas.
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They should fill it full of ssd drives with USB ports underneath so it would have to sit on my desk...
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I will certainly order one, will replace the plastic one I already have, and loving the rear opening door, as Surinam Air 747 said some possible dioramas.
Are you sure the fuselage is not plastic on this one? Being hollow, I bet it is......
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Are you sure the fuselage is not plastic on this one? Being hollow, I bet it is......

Strange when some suggested models are criticised for the lack of schemes, then Gemini launch this......
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Are you sure the fuselage is not plastic on this one? Being hollow, I bet it is......
I have been told that only the tail piece (the removeable part) is plastic.
Otherwise you couldn't make it move and second issue would be as that part would become to heavy and the plane would sit on it's tail the whole time.

You can notice it by the color on the pictures that Gemini provided.
The forward fusilage itself is a tad more white (or more shiny, just the way you look at it) than the tailsection being a different material
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You can notice it by the color on the pictures that Gemini provided.
The forward fusilage itself is a tad more white (or more shiny, just the way you look at it) than the tailsection being a different material
Nope, that's angle-shading. Look at the rear - under the tail, same color as fuselage. Regardless of the material, it should all be painted.
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Nope, that's angle-shading. Look at the rear - under the tail, same color as fuselage. Regardless of the material, it should all be painted.

Please read my post more carefully.
The whole model is painted, but you can see (if you look closely enough) a difference between the moving part and the rest of the fusilage and that is not (only) because of the angle
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Would be nice if it did have a full interior but I am not sure if it will.
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Old 10-16-2018, 05:01 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I never thought about it having plastic parts.. that’s going to be a shoker for sure if that’s the case.. none of the less I do agree.. the Poseidon and the dreamlifter have to best releases this year in my opinion.. looking forward to it 😁
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Please read my post more carefully.
The whole model is painted, but you can see (if you look closely enough) a difference between the moving part and the rest of the fusilage and that is not (only) because of the angle
No, I can't. And I have 20/10 vision. Now you just make no sense. If the whole model is painted, why would only the forward part of the aft section be a different color?

I'm not arguing that the tail is plastic, just that you can't be sure from one photo if the colors match, which they are almost certain to do.
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Old 10-16-2018, 10:55 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Going back exactly one year ago in a thread which gave us our first look, Tonka mentioned that due to different shrink rates the tail must be metal as well. In that thread the tail is a different shade of white (see hinges), might just be different paint used to get it done for the toy show, or not.

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It won't bother me if the tail is plastic (as long as the color matches the rest of the plane). It may make more sense to be plastic so the model won't be tail heavy. Looking forward to seeing pics of the model soon.
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I need a Dreamlifter like I need another hole in my head.

Meanwhile, dozens of 737-300s (in the colors of airlines from all over the world) are waiting for one of the 1/200 manufacturers to finally come to its senses and release them.
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I need a Dreamlifter like I need another hole in my head.

Meanwhile, dozens of 737-300s (in the colors of airlines from all over the world) are waiting for one of the 1/200 manufacturers to finally come to its senses and release them.
That is one of the funniest posts I've seen in the 1/200 section this year! Hat's off to Gemini for rolling out this very unique airframe. Now, please produce the C-5 Galaxy with cargo doors that can open in 2019. Thank you, very much! T7
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I have been told that only the tail piece (the removeable part) is plastic.
Otherwise you couldn't make it move and second issue would be as that part would become to heavy and the plane would sit on it's tail the whole time.

You can notice it by the color on the pictures that Gemini provided.
The forward fusilage itself is a tad more white (or more shiny, just the way you look at it) than the tailsection being a different material
First thing I noticed from the picture was the aft section being a different shade of white than the rest of the body. Thanks for the explanation!
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so they can make a mould that only has 1 livery, but cant make the an124 or c5 galaxy that has many more livery options??
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so they can make a mould that only has 1 livery, but cant make the an124 or c5 galaxy that has many more livery options??
I don't know if Gemini has officially taken both those giants off their drawing boards, but I do believe they are fully aware that the 1/200 collectors want them in diecast. So be patient, and I am guessing it will be in 2019 that one of these will be displayed in our 1/200 collections. Be Optimistic, Stay Positive. Cheers! T7
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My guess is that Boeing wanted this model made for their sales this the justification for the mold. I could be wrong but that’s my guess as to how the cost of the mold was justified. Similar to why we see so many Emirates models. Corporate orders...
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I contacted Gemini Jets and asked if the aft fuselage is plastic or metal. They responded with "Aft is plastic, I don't think any other components are plastic, the rest should be diecast."
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Now, please produce the C-5 Galaxy with cargo doors that can open in 2019. Thank you, very much! T7
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Found an eBay listing for the Dreamlifter with actual photos. Looks like the tail color does match the rest of the plane.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gemini-Jets....c100290.m3507
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Interior is about 1 1/2 inches(4 cm). A little more than blunt ending in C-17...
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Are the landing gear removable for in-flight display on the stand?
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Got mine today. I don't know if I like it. But it's different, and a good topic of conversation to my non-collector but aviation-loving friends (Like the flaps down models, the Beluga with the opened forward hinged door). It might just grow on me in time. The (plastic) tail seems to slant a bit downwards. The seam is very pronounced. I guess this has to be displayed with the tail in open position (duh). As to the color, the main fuselage seems a little darker, though in the photos it's the tail that seems darker. If it's in the open position, It's almost the same color-in some angles. Judge for yourselves. Having said my observations, I thank Gemini for this model!
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Now with engine 4 attached.
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I applaud Gemini for taking on such a cool model, and for their first time it's not bad. But one thing absolutely kills it for me, that seam. Honestly don't know what I was thinking the seam would be but it's the first thing my eye caught.
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Thanks for the pics and review DouglasDC5, it helps to know what someone thinks about a model. I am on the fence about this one. I can live with the seam, it's not pretty, but not much choice if the tail is to open. But the difference in white between front and back bothers me. I know paint will dry on plastic differently than on metal, but I would think a couple of coats would help even that out.
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DouglasDC5 what is the Beluga model in the back? Custom?
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I would have preferred a solid model that doesn't open (and no seam), but I ordered one anyway. I was willing to accept the seam so I could have a rather unusual model. I'm due to receive it Friday 11/22...I'll post my thoughts.
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If people want a solid, no-seam model...the (albeit plastic) Hogan one fits the bill...


Only thing I'm a little disappointed in is the color mismatch, but that's what happens when you use two different materials. Obviously the aft end being plastic is due to c/g reasons, really wouldn't want this one to be a tail sitter.


Looking forward to receiving mine, already saw a friend's copy. Yes, the landing gear is modular and swappable like all Gemini/JC 747s.

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Hi Crownvic, the Beluga is a Lupa model with the opening cargo doors. I Just added the antennas and used a Hogan A300 landing gears. I usually display it on a stand in the open position without the cut-up front 737 nose section (the irony). The "junk" you see behind are batteries for weight as it definitely is a tail sitter.
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Hi Crownvic, the Beluga is a Lupa model with the opening cargo doors. I Just added the antennas and used a Hogan A300 landing gears. I usually display it on a stand in the open position without the cut-up front 737 nose section (the irony). The "junk" you see behind are batteries for weight as it definitely is a tail sitter.
Interesting, I never knew that model existed with opening nose. I see one on ebay too..looks good!
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Interesting, I never knew that model existed with opening nose. I see one on ebay too..looks good!
Never heard of this one either... How about next up an AN-124 from GJ with openable nose and hydraulic gear
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I could not agree more...sorely needed..Im not sure about the gear but yes to the nose!
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This model is not within my collecting criteria. But if it were, the whole point would be to display it with the tail open.
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Agreed, it would need to really be displayed with the tail open to take advantage of this release.
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No, I can't. And I have 20/10 vision. Now you just make no sense. If the whole model is painted, why would only the forward part of the aft section be a different color?

I'm not arguing that the tail is plastic, just that you can't be sure from one photo if the colors match, which they are almost certain to do.
Arcunia is exactly right and I clearly see the slightly difference in finish. You might wanna have your eyes checked again
It is VERY common for the exact same paint to have a slightly different finish depending on the material it’s painted on. For example a very common one is auto manufacturers have struggled for decades mainly on silver vehicles that the paint looks slightly different between the sheet metal and plastic bumper. Silver and whites have always been tough to get right.
I’m not saying it’s going to be an issue and even if there is a slight difference who cares.....my point is he is right and you said he makes no sense when infact he makes complete sense.
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Anybody ever look a real plane! They tarnish, the paint after a year or two looks different in spots, they are dirty, paint is missing, etc.

Nice release and feature. I usually don't collect freighters, but it does have the Boeing thing going on! So maybe! I guess I need to decide quickly as a few UK dealers with some left!
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I visited the 787 production line in Charleston SC this week and was lucky enough to see the 1:1 LCF arrive and depart. If you google earth the Boeing Factory in SC the photo shows 3 LCF's on the ground at the same time!
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Here is how mine arrived. Ridiculous.

I agree that the color different and gap are not favorable. But I still like the model and will display it with the back open.
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As long as paint wasn't taken in visible areas an easy fix!
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Old 11-17-2018, 03:59 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Here is how mine arrived. Ridiculous.

I agree that the color different and gap are not favorable. But I still like the model and will display it with the back open.

Nice...I hope mine doesn't show up like that...it's not like the stores have a lot of stock on hand to replace broken models with.
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Old 11-17-2018, 04:18 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Is it broken, or did the wing just separate?
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Old 11-17-2018, 10:40 PM   #48 (permalink)
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As long as paint wasn't taken in visible areas an easy fix!
Yep, a little glue and it will be fine.
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As long as paint wasn't taken in visible areas an easy fix!
Yep, a little glue and it will be fine.
Good news. All in all it’s a nice model. Now we need some full flaps with spoilers and reversers.
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Are the four blocks on the inside roof and inside floor magnets?
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