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Old 09-28-2018, 05:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just arrived ... Enjoy Leslie. Haha
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Will be getting this one! Thanks for posting
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Ugh. No black lines on the wings to show the position of the MLG? Just looks empty....
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Ugh. No black lines on the wings to show the position of the MLG? Just looks empty....
Who even checks Gemini's model? Such little care is given to their releases anymore. Definitely not a top manufacturer anymore given how little attention to detail is looked after. Sorry guys, but consistent errors that are easily noticeable don't get my support. Again, even posting samples on forums before release would get you tons of geeks spotting those missing decals etc. And for free!
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Can someone post a pic of what you’re talking about because I have no clue ???
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Who even checks Gemini's model? Such little care is given to their releases anymore. Definitely not a top manufacturer anymore given how little attention to detail is looked after. Sorry guys, but consistent errors that are easily noticeable don't get my support. Again, even posting samples on forums before release would get you tons of geeks spotting those missing decals etc. And for free!
Well said Jan. It’s unfortunate because we look forward to these releases...

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It never seeks to amaze me how many armchair experts there are out there especially Jan Jasinski who does nothing but constantly criticize Gemini Jets.. I have found multiple videos on YouTube of Air Canada 777-300’s with no black stripes... some of the aircraft in the fleet have it and some don’t the particular artwork for this model provided by Air Canada did not have the stripe on it..

Everyone, Don’t let the negativity of these so called experts and criticizers the Jan Jasinskis if the world ruin it for everyone...Jan Go back to photography that’s what you do best ..and stop buying Gemini Jets they will do just fine without you...
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Yulsee26.....Your quote to Jan was “well said” ....Well, How did I do???
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Can someone enlighten me about the use of these black stripes on the wings of some aircraft ?

I am not sure they are there to show the position of the main landing gear, some Fokker 70s have the same and they are near the wingtips ...

I have been told that the black color makes the the frost on the wing more visible during preflight check.
If true, it can be very useful : an aircraft is not allowed to take off with ice or snow on its wings.

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Can someone enlighten me about the use of these black stripes on the wings of some aircraft ?

I am not sure they are there to show the position of the main landing gear, some Fokker 70s have the same and they are near the wingtips ...

I have been told that the black color makes the the frost on the wing more visible during preflight check.
If true, it can be very useful : an aircraft is not allowed to take off with ice or snow on its wings.

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For years it was used as a visual aid to detect icing on wings but on the 777 it is a visual cue to the pilots looking back from cockpit to align gear with taxiway in foggy weather that the tail mounted camera cant pick up in heavy fog..

As to why some exact planes in the fleet do or do not have them is a mystery.
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Thank you Crownvic.

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Yulsee26.....Your quote to Jan was “well said” ....Well, How did I do???
You did very well! I just find it strange that C-FITU before being re-painted to the new livery had these black markings on the wings. I wonder why they removed them.

I never said I was an expert, actually far from it! But I have purchased enough GJ models to expect to see the standard markings on their aircraft. All of the 77W's listed on the GJ200 website have these black markings except for the United model.

Regardless, here is the EK wing, and it seems like the marking lines are much more pronounced and the "no step" markings visible. Are these missing from the Air Canada model and plane in real life as well?

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Everyone, Don’t let the negativity of these so called experts and criticizers the Jan Jasinskis if the world ruin it for everyone...Jan Go back to photography that’s what you do best ..and stop buying Gemini Jets they will do just fine without you...

Bravo and well said!

It would astonish me if anyone takes Jan Jasinski seriously. A close second is Charlie Alpha with his constant copy and paste "cockpit printing and nose shape" bollocks on almost EVERY JCW/Gemini thread. His bias / love for Inflight on the other hand is quite suspect, almost like a spokesperson.
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For years it was used as a visual aid to detect icing on wings but on the 777 it is a visual cue to the pilots looking back from cockpit to align gear with taxiway in foggy weather that the tail mounted camera cant pick up in heavy fog..

As to why some exact planes in the fleet do or do not have them is a mystery.
You are partially correct CV, my brother flew the 1:1 version, and he was able to show me around the aircraft. Those lines are not visible from the cockpit, but are visible to horizontal stab mounted cameras. If anyone one wants to get super duper detailed, add those cameras
Also. there is a camera to show the position of the nose gear.
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99.9% of the time if it is a current plane flying or on order the airlines supply the artwork for all models..Several samples are sent back to the airline for approval.

Some airlines ask to delete emergency wing walk markings while others delete the no step markings on the wings..Case in point the Gemini UAL 777-300 does not have overwing walk exits per Uniteds request yet the Inflight model does. My guess is that UAL missed it on the Inflight version..

Only the collectors with their DACrometers pick up on it...

I spoke directly to the person in charge of the Gemini AC 777 and the original artwork sent had the black stripe on the wing when received but during his research of additional photos he discovered it was missing and AC agreed and had it removed..again as to why some have it and some don't remains a mystery..
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Bravo and well said!

It would astonish me if anyone takes Jan Jasinski seriously. A close second is Charlie Alpha with his constant copy and paste "cockpit printing and nose shape" bollocks on almost EVERY JCW/Gemini thread. His bias / love for Inflight on the other hand is quite suspect, almost like a spokesperson.
WELL SAID!! I am very close friends with the owners of Inflight models and I can assure you Charlie Alpha is just an obsessed fan..
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WELL SAID!! I am very close friends with the owners of Inflight models and I can assure you Charlie Alpha is just an obsessed fan..
Tell him or her that I have a list of models that they need to make...
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This is a relief to see. I'd still like to have seen the no step markings. Oh well, will be buying this one regardless.
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Count me in for this T7. It will join the AC fleet of mine. Thank you to the OP for letting me know of this bird., since I have been off the DAC radar the past 3 months. Cheers! T7
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SWEET!!!! I am of course getting this one, to go with my two Blue releases. (Both Hogan, since I sold the Blue Gemini and am regretting it)

Sorry, I have been AWOL. Been having some health issues and they are affecting my life at the moment :/
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Yulsee26.....Your quote to Jan was “well said” ....Well, How did I do???
Pretty good actually
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Looks good to me, a possible future add. Thanks for posting the pics.
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You could put wings on a turd, label it Gemini and certain members would rant about how perfect it was. Eh, Alitalia?



Amazing how the forum moderators have not stopped rags on by a very few on other members. That is why I don't post much any more. Most JCW molds are getting badly outdated, and no one, inclusion family, seems to care.

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Bravo and well said!

It would astonish me if anyone takes Jan Jasinski seriously. A close second is Charlie Alpha with his constant copy and paste "cockpit printing and nose shape" bollocks on almost EVERY JCW/Gemini thread. His bias / love for Inflight on the other hand is quite suspect, almost like a spokesperson.

You seem to know all the usual comments. They apply here too. Amazing that JCW/GJ hasn't done anything to improve their molds despite being left in the dust.


Also amazing that there is not one comment about models in this post. Just the same old ragging again, and again, and again, on other members. Someone needs to get a life.



I think Jan used to be a big fan of JCW/GJ. Me too. Until they started screwing up on a few of their molds. Half of my collection is JCW/GJ, but not any more. And not until they fix a few pretty obvious errors.
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The few high profile nitpickers on this forum have an agenda, and that is to point out the same thing over and over again trying to impress everyone with there knowledge and superiority of the slightest error. One person in particular has an issue with noses. 99% of this persons threads refer to the shape of the nose and how it is off by 1000th of a millimeter. This same person constantly refers to one other specific manufacturer as being superior as they have tweeked their noses

The good news is that no one really cares, it hasn't slowed sales and collectors buy the models because of their love of the hobby..

The irony here is yes I am a member of the Gemini family, but I am also very close with all the owners of Inflight and collect just about every one... when visiting China I am the guest of one of those owners staying at his house and the reverse as he stays at my residence in the US. Our impression of the most critical????? laughter....
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The few high profile nitpickers on this forum have an agenda, and that is to point out the same thing over and over again trying to impress everyone with there knowledge and superiority of the slightest error. One person in particular has an issue with noses. 99% of this persons threads refer to the shape of the nose and how it is off by 1000th of a millimeter. This same person constantly refers to one other specific manufacturer as being superior as they have tweeked their noses


I think you are missing the whole point. No one is here to impress anyone (unless that is why you are here) and I think MANY members appreciate the critique, as some have stated. It is probably a welcome relief after the attempt a few years ago to make this a JCW/GJ appreciation forum. Some manufacturers are willing to change their models based on criticism, and some are not. Where does JCW/GJ slot into that equation?


The good news is that no one really cares, it hasn't slowed sales and collectors buy the models because of their love of the hobby..


I really doubt that is true. The collectors here have always had problems with certain molds regardless of manufacturer. When one mold isn't upgraded, like the A320 series, a better one steps in to take its place. And this is a GREAT place to compare different designs.


The irony here is yes I am a member of the Gemini family, but I am also very close with all the owners of Inflight and collect just about every one... .

Good for you! I do too. Anyone who can read already knows that by my post above. Half of my collection is JCW/GJ.



I just have a problem with inaccuracies in several of the current designs. And if you bother to check, you'll find I have been critical of all brands at one time or another. And it is because of crap like this that I don't post much any more. After all, it is just a hobby for most of us!
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Charlie Alpa,

Move on. Keep buying those ugly Inflights and leave us JC / GJ lovers alone.

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Charlie Alpa,

Move on. Keep buying those ugly Inflights and leave us JC / GJ lovers alone.

Bomb air, the feeling is entirely mutual. And please, enjoy all the crappy models that you want, of any brand.

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Now children...

I have an IF KLM B744 that is missing the outboard GE decal on number one engine. It annoyed me as I saw pics of the 1:1 and it had it. However, sometime after the pics I used for research, KLM had removed it, or replaced the engine with one that didn't have it.

The Gemini DLH A350-900 doesn't have the city name, "Nuremberg" on it. I was tempted to buy the IF because it did. Came to realize that it didn't have the name on it because when it was delivered D-AIHA (A346) still had that name on it. So both versions are accurate.

We all have our "analities" but for the most part the various manufactures get it right.

I'm keeping the GJ. I photographed the real deals in MUC and like the mould.
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I collect Air Canada models from all various manufacturers, Inflight, JC Wings, Gemini Jets, Aeroclassics, NG, etc. I am pleased with the AC products from these companies, and I am also grateful that they have been rolling out Air Canada models every month or so. I consider myself lucky being an AC fleet collector, when compared to other airlines that rarely see the production line in 1/200 scale.

If I like it, I buy it. I never lose sleep over any imperfections that have been brought up on the DAC. However, occassionally I do lose sleep over work projects, my family, my NFL weekly picks for my pool, etc..

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I collect Air Canada models from all various manufacturers, Inflight, JC Wings, Gemini Jets, Aeroclassics, NG, etc. I am pleased with the AC products from these companies, and I am also grateful that they have been rolling out Air Canada models every month or so. I consider myself lucky being an AC fleet collector, when compared to other airlines that rarely see the production line in 1/200 scale.

If I like it, I buy it. I never lose sleep over any imperfections that have been brought up on the DAC. However, occassionally I do lose sleep over work projects, my family, my NFL weekly picks for my pool, etc..

Cheers! T7

VERY well said

I have been having Health issues stemming from my job, and right now Model Planes imperfections are the least of my worries. My Sleep patterns have been badly off as has been my appetite but I am happy to see a new AC 777 in diecast from Gemini.
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Great looking models.

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Basically it's the old saying "no such thing as a 100% accurate model" and all manufacturers can drop the ball from time to time but equally can produce some very nice models. For me it is very much a case of liking the model regardless of brand and my collection have diecasts from various manufacturers such as Gemini, JC Wings, Inflight etc

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Interesting thread about the black wing markings. I work aboard the 77W all the time with AA and we still have those black lines on all of ours. Strange that AC took them off, you learn something new every day! The 77W wears the new AC livery well and I’m awaiting delivery of mine. I’m starting to run out of space in my cramped Manhattan apartment, I’ve got to thin out some models again to make room.
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Ugh. No black lines on the wings to show the position of the MLG? Just looks empty....
C-FITU here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8jt4jJrRNgA at around 6:30 you can clearly see no black markings
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Old 04-28-2019, 07:16 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Ding, Ding, Ding,...

In this corner, weighing in at 185 pounds, from San Diego, the undisputed...



You know, I didn't discover DAC for about the first year or so when I started collecting Herpa models - that means it has been over 20 years of collecting these works of art.

Flaws and all - buy what you like and get a bigger house if you have your eyes set on 1:200 scale. It's all good!
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Old 04-28-2019, 07:27 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Or buy more cabinets. Although I did know a fellow who bought a larger house on his block so as to display more models.

Marriage didn't survive it, but he was still a happy guy at the end of it all.
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Very nice to see the 777 in the new Air Canada colors! Nice model!
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