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Old 09-22-2018, 11:43 AM   #1
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After a year of sitting next to my desk, I’ve just decided that my 1/200th Concorde looks incomplete without a life-like pitot tube in the nose probe. I’ve got Gemini’s 1/200th model G2BAW665 of G-BOAF, sitting next to a Herpa Tu-144 and a Dragon Wings XB-70, both of which have pitot tubes on their nose between quarter and half an inch long. There’s also an Italeri Tu-160 without a nose probe, but it’s only a cheap model. The Gemini 200 is relatively good quality, and I’m now wondering whether I should get a pitot tube for her.

Looking at the attached photos, Concorde’s nose probe has quite a striking shape. Looking at the next two photos which I found on Ebay, one appears to have a metal-coloured pitot tube, the other either looks white, or just naturally has a long nose cone. I haven’t photographed my own, but it looks identical to picture number 5, which looks incomplete compared with the adjacent Herpa 1/200th Tu-144.

(And whilst looking for these photos, I stumbled across number 7 on liveauctioneers.com, which is described as having been presented by BA to Mike Bannister, and had a starting bid of £8,000! I wonder how close that is to how much a new one in working order would cost, if they were still manufactured.)

Anyway what I’m interested to know is, if you’ve got either G2BAW665 or a similar Gemini 200 Concorde, which picture does your model’s nose look like?
If I have lost mine, any idea how I can replace it?
On the Tu-144 and XB-70 it’s easy to remove and replace the pitot tube, but it doesn’t look like the end of Concorde’s nose probe is big enough to stick something into.
And that fact might actually answer my question, but I’d be interested to hear your opinion anyway.
Thank you.
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my GJ LANDOR does have. I believe they all do. early ones were too long???






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Old 09-23-2018, 05:42 AM   #3
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Not sure how you mean by missing. The pitot tube is as far as I can tell is moulded as part of the nose section on the Gemini. It is too thick compared to photos of the real Concorde and the tip hasn't been painted silver. Don't think they can mould the pitot any thinner in 1/200 as even the model kit version looks overscale.



Hogan got round it by not even bothering to have a pitot.
https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com...ys-landor.html


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By missing I meant that in the past I have lost more than one pitot tube on other aircraft and I wondered if I'd done the same with my G2 Concorde without realising. Yesterday I had to move all my furniture around looking for a pitot for a MiG!

So it was only when I saw photos 3 and 4 below which made me question my model, but having seen your Landor Robert, and your Hogan Eagle Flyer, I'm satisfied that I've got as good you can get in 1/200th.

Thanks for your input!

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Default Re: Has your Gemini 200 Concorde got a nose probe?

On My PrePro Concorde G-AXDN Custom I researched probe length and this is a picture of correct to scale length but still too thick, 1/200 = 3mm



Personally I don't see the point (lol) of the pitot on 1/200 concordes as it looks wrong, way oversized, and in most pictures of the 1:1 isn't visible.




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Adding a nose probe that's true to scale with the model, would be difficult.
I thought of adding an extension to the nose stub, on my G-BOAC first release model, but I decided to leave it as is...
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three different releases using the JC /GJ mould

air france

https://www.flickr.com/photos/arinmu...h/30252991196/

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/arinmu...h/29905494850/

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The entire catalogue of GJ & JCW Concorde's released so far do have this feature that I have including the BOAC delivery fantasy JCW release JC2494 which I did not get. I should add, the JCW wings models of the first two releases of G-BOAD split livery of Singapore Airlines and British Airways and the Air France Pepsi Concorde F-BTSD had fixed landing gear and longer probes which where later shortened on all the future GJ releases. Also magnetic gear / gear up options became available on all of the GJ releases.





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Nice collection of GJ and JCW



Here's some of my Inflight & Hogans at 56 - now 60.

Gemini BA Chatham and Landor out of shot



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Nice collection of GJ and JCW



Here's some of my Inflight & Hogans at 56 - now 60.

Get them out and line them up boxes don't count. It sure would be nice to see your entire Concorde collection the best there is so far and that is without question, If you can, line them up in a hall or garage and show case the lot or are they already in a display case? A Qantas proposed option one would be nice one too to complete the set and I believe you said there is just one other as well.
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Nice collection of GJ and JCW



Here's some of my Inflight & Hogans at 56 - now 60.

Gemini BA Chatham and Landor out of shot



I was gonna say the same thing!! Nice collection of boxes...show off them jets though

Would love to see them, as this thread has me searching for my first 1:200 Concorde.. Oh boy
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