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Old 08-30-2018, 03:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Today I have received the new Inflight200 Condor Boeing 707-400 model and I must say that I am not happy with it. I knew about some errors in the mould, wing leading edges or wing tip dimensions but I can live with all these... But what I cannot accept is a blue Condor circle logo instead of black not only in the tail but also all over the plane including engines and nose in a 70īs Condor plane. Thanks god at least the Condor titles in the fuselage are black.
Iīm thinking about returning the model. I think it will be posible... Iīm not going to pay that money for such an incorrect model. Too many issues in many models. That is not the way to go Inflight...
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Do Inflight care...?

Obviously not... as they go to release the third version of the 747 prototype..

I bought (issue #1) that in good faith that I was buying a limited edition one off.... as in... not to be repeated....

If they don't respect the collector then they may find themselves with very few collectors...





FFS ... lets have something original.. how about a British United BAC 1-111.... ( as per Airfix issue #1)
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Old 08-30-2018, 04:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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May be Inflight donīt care but from now I will be here to say what I think about every model I get (from them or from any other brand). And I am going to look at the models with "lenses".
By the way, I have also received the Sabena 707 and the two thin lines above and below the main window blue cheatline should be BLACK and not blue for that plane. The all blue cheatline came many years later. And this is also valid for the ARD or Inflight Caravelle.
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That's a bummer.. Havent ordered the Condor 707 but did irder the Sabena.. Inflight is putting out so many models these days that mistakes like this are too easily made. A little more research for each model and this mistakes wouldn't be made. As for the first 747, I believe the recently announced version is the fourth one. I bought the second non polished release and this is the second polished one. I will stick to my second version as it was my first metal 747.
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That's a bummer.. Havent ordered the Condor 707 but did irder the Sabena.. Inflight is putting out so many models these days that mistakes like this are too easily made. A little more research for each model and this mistakes wouldn't be made. As for the first 747, I believe the recently announced version is the fourth one. I bought the second non polished release and this is the second polished one. I will stick to my second version as it was my first metal 747.
The Sabena 707 is a nice model anyway. You will love it. The blue thin lines canīt be hardly seen and look black but the Condor circle logo is a big, big logo in the tail and, in my opinion, is unacceptable
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as they go to release the third version of the 747 prototype..
Is there something wrong with this model as well ? Because Im think to purchase.
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Today I have received the new Inflight200 Condor Boeing 707-400 model and I must say that I am not happy with it. I knew about some errors in the mould, wing leading edges or wing tip dimensions but I can live with all these... But what I cannot accept is a blue Condor circle logo instead of black not only in the tail but also all over the plane including engines and nose in a 70īs Condor plane. Thanks god at least the Condor titles in the fuselage are black.
Iīm thinking about returning the model. I think it will be posible... Iīm not going to pay that money for such an incorrect model. Too many issues in many models. That is not the way to go Inflight...
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May be Inflight donīt care but from now I will be here to say what I think about every model I get (from them or from any other brand). And I am going to look at the models with "lenses".
By the way, I have also received the Sabena 707 and the two thin lines above and below the main window blue cheatline should be BLACK and not blue for that plane. The all blue cheatline came many years later. And this is also valid for the ARD or Inflight Caravelle.
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The Sabena 707 is a nice model anyway. You will love it. The blue thin lines canīt be hardly seen and look black but the Condor circle logo is a big, big logo in the tail and, in my opinion, is unacceptable
It has been a long time, Jesus! I believe that you can get far better models in a larger scale... 1/33... by yourself Just give it a go
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As for the first 747, I believe the recently announced version is the fourth one..
Is that the one with no logos on it... then agreed ... four...
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Is there something wrong with this model as well ? Because Im think to purchase.
Didn't say that there was anything wrong with the model, just bemused at the number of times they have released it...

If you don't get this one there should be at least another couple of releases before 2020...
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I agree that the colors on many inflight models just suck. I cant give inflights away because they re-release all models so collectors are let with model that have very little to no value.
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Do Inflight care...?
They wont if they still make money from the model. If they make a loss because too many collectors refuse to buy... then yes they will care or go under and disappear from the market if they continue to release loss-making models. A bit like HM giving up on 1/200 jetliners

As for the error, I've always been of the view mistakes affect collectors in a different way. I can see how it can be a deal breaker for some and for others they can look passed it.

Ironically, I do have a JAL 747 with an inaccurate tail logo. After some umming and arrghing... I decided to keep the model and so far it's a keeper. In contrast, I absolutely refuse to buy the HM Su-25 with the inaccurate canopy no matter how good the colours look
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Is that the one with no logos on it... then agreed ... four...
Nope with logo's second release
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They wont if they still make money from the model. If they make a loss because too many collectors refuse to buy... then yes they will care or go under and disappear from the market if they continue to release loss-making models. A bit like HM giving up on 1/200 jetliners

As for the error, I've always been of the view mistakes affect collectors in a different way. I can see how it can be a deal breaker for some and for others they can look passed it.

Ironically, I do have a JAL 747 with an inaccurate tail logo. After some umming and arrghing... I decided to keep the model and so far it's a keeper. In contrast, I absolutely refuse to buy the HM Su-25 with the inaccurate canopy no matter how good the colours look
I think exactly the same.
I donīt like the re-releases but I would like to see a couple of new Court line Tristars in the correct color pastel shades from Inflight or any other brand. I passed off them because the ugly wrong colors and both are a must have in my collection. I have been tempted to buy at least one trying to convince myself that may be these are not that bad but...indeed, they are.
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It has been a long time, Jesus! I believe that you can get far better models in a larger scale... 1/33... by yourself Just give it a go
Good to hear from you Jesus! Its been a while since your last post. Indeed, I thought the same: may we expect some paper-gems from your hand soon?

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Good to hear from you Jesus! Its been a while since your last post. Indeed, I thought the same: may we expect some paper-gems from your hand soon?

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Hi Magno,
Good to hear also from you! I havenīt built anything since some years ago due to my COPD (EPOC in spanish). Itīs a serious thing... Type 2 regarding use (or in my case abuse...) of enamels, sprays, super glue fumes, ...etc.

Iīm feeling much, much better now so who knows... in the near future may be I will have a try again. I would like very much.

So, What I can do by now is only collecting and of course criticize the errors in the models where I spend my money.

And talking about errors... Has anybody discovered the big, big error in the livery of the Inflight MAERSK 720B (version with the cheatline of late 70īs and 80īs)? I canīt believe nobody has realized
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Has anybody discovered the big, big error in the livery of the Inflight MAERSK 720B (version with the cheatline of late 70īs and 80īs)? I canīt believe nobody has realized
So what's wrong with the Maersk cheatline version?
Colours off?
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So what's wrong with the Maersk cheatline version?
Colours off?
So.. you have got one. Havenīt you?
Nothing to do with the overall pale blue. Of course is not the correct RAL for Maersk. but is pretty correct in my opinion and closer to the real one usually faded with the sun. For instance, Aeroclassics in 1/400 do have the correct color for Maersk but at this scale is too intense and I preffer the Inflight colorfor both models, the cheatline one and the older without it.

Please, see photos as closer as better. Is evident.
I have to say that I have both models and Iīm happy with them but the errors are there...
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Ok, the real cheatline for Maersk has two colors. Dark blue (not black) and medium blue. The model has the line all in dark blue of course with the white edges.
You can say that you can hardly see but is the same that if in a Britannia 737 the two cheatlines are in red for instance... the concept is the same.
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Cheatline well above the wing root?
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This Condor aircraft is a B 707-430, that means that it has the same wing as a B 707-320.

I have explained for months that this model is wrong because Inflight has used the wing of their B 707-320 B /C to make this model.

Nobody seems to care ...
Bright colors and a nice livery are not enough to make a good model.

The wings of this model need to be reworked.

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This Condor aircraft is a B 707-430, that means that it has the same wing as a B 707-320.

I have explained for months that this model is wrong because Inflight has used the wing of their B 707-320 B /C to make this model.

Nobody seems to care ...
Bright colors and a nice livery are not enough to make a good model.

The wings of this model need to be reworked.

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Yes! I know, Jean Pierre. And I am with you.
And even is worse! Inflight hasnīt used the wing of their 707-320B to make the 300 and 400 series... some one has MODIFIED the wing of the 707-320B/C to convert it into 300 and 400 series but in a wrong way. They have done a new one enlarged in wingspan!!

I will explain:
this is a drawing with diferences between wings
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Now what they should have done: just remove the green area.
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And finally what they have done

So they have spent time doing something to worse.

Of course I see this in the model... and I have to assume it. and then, I look at the BEA airtours titles and voila... fully deformed because someone donīt have common sense to translate a perspective from a photo

Or a blue Condor circle instead of black in the Condor 707-300...
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And we can also talk about using same engine mould in both 400 and 300 series... Herpa also does it but his mould for the B707-300/400 is very good. Shame the short old tail in some models...
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Iīm feeling much, much better now so who knows... in the near future may be I will have a try again. I would like very much.
So sorry to hear about your medical condition and I do wish you all the best. Lest hope you can treat us very soon again with your skills. I have not forgotten the caravelle PH-TRX ;-)
For now, thanks for the heads up on the 707's. Its is unbelievable that such mistakes are made by 'quality' producers.

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Now what they should have done: just remove the green area.

The saw tooth leading edge and flaps configuration would still be wrong. And there is only one bend in the inboard trailing edge of the wing, not two. Inflight would really need a new wing for the model to be accurate.

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The saw tooth leading edge and flaps configuration would still be wrong. And there is only one bend in the inboard trailing edge of the wing, not two. Inflight would really need a new wing for the model to be accurate.
Yes of course!
I mean in the case of using the wing that they have used. And even in that way they have gone to worse!
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And here's me thinking all those Condor Flugdienst I used to spot had the inverse of Lufthansa colors. ie Dark blue on Yellow......
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So sorry to hear about your medical condition and I do wish you all the best. Lest hope you can treat us very soon again with your skills. I have not forgotten the caravelle PH-TRX ;-)
For now, thanks for the heads up on the 707's. Its is unbelievable that such mistakes are made by 'quality' producers.

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Many thanks Magno,

Hope to continue with my models in the near future or at least to finish the Transavia Caravelle.
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And here's me thinking all those Condor Flugdienst I used to spot had the inverse of Lufthansa colors. ie Dark blue on Yellow......
I would say "no" - if You compare Lufthansas 70s livery to Condors 70s livery, You may see the difference between the cheat line and the letters or the logo on Condors aircrafts while I can't see it on Lufthansas aircrafts this way.


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