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Old 08-19-2018, 09:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Yellowing IF/AV 747 on select model? Not cool.....

This is the second model that I saw, which has different white on fuselage vs tail color.

Never took this model out of the box once. WTF

Other one was JAL 747-100. Does anyone else have similar problem

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From Jetway Models shows different color too.
https://www.jetwaymodels.com/1200-in...00-ph-bua.html

but this one seems ok...

https://www.ebay.com/p/Inflight-200-...ut/10002920759

One from Arcunia

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Inflight200...p2047675.l2557
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And the JAL one...
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Default Re: Yellowing diecast? Not cool.....

overhead lighting shining directly down on fuselage and not on tail may be reason for slight discoloration in photos. Barley noticeable. Just go to any airport today and look at same airplanes lined up at gates and all will be different.
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overhead lighting shining directly down on fuselage and not on tail may be reason for slight discoloration in photos. Barley noticeable. Just go to any airport today and look at same airplanes lined up at gates and all will be different.
IF that was the case, this picture shows the difference once again.

But I should change the title to select IF/AV model, as I never seen on any of the GJ/JC models.
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I guess that proves my theory wrong
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It’s no lighting issue. My PAL 742’s white top is somehow off-white, compared to the white on the vertical tail. It has been discussed before; with polished/chrome models the ones being affected. It was mentioned that it was the foam packaging or the clear plastic strips; even the protective coating of the polished belly of the models is the cause.
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Old 08-19-2018, 12:43 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Default Re: Yellowing diecast? Not cool.....

Seems normal, since the paint used decolors like plastic due to a similar material being used within the paint ingredients, as what I am seeing here.

You could apply this cream method:
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Default Re: Yellowing diecast? Not cool.....

Pretty sure it's just different colors of paint. My American Eagle ATR came fresh from the factory with the opposite issue, although less noticeable.
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Old 08-19-2018, 04:59 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I have seen it as well. Kind of frustrating. It seems to affect the older diecast models from what I have seen. But never out of the box and looks like that would annoy me greatly......
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Old 08-20-2018, 02:25 AM   #10 (permalink)
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IF that was the case, this picture shows the difference once again.

But I should change the title to select IF/AV model, as I never seen on any of the GJ/JC models.
Whoah, did you actually pull out the tail of your model? I'll probably have a heart attack if I tried doing that on my models

That does seem to be quite a pronounced difference in color, but like the others, I've also seen that in my models, although to a lesser extent.
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For more information about this issue see here:

https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com...aven-hell.html

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Some Hobby Master models that I have (am DC-4 and a Pan-Am DC-6) are rapidly yellowing. IF200, JC and other no.
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It will be a different batch of paint, some yellows faster than others...

Better go look at my HM models then...
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All of my KLM models have a very white tail and a different shade of white fuselage
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Thanks, this helps a lot. I am not buying the argument, its slightly off. It is frustrating after spending 30K and seeing models wither away with colors/loosening of parts. I am not stickler for small things but when color difference is this obvious, it just pains to display the model.

One of these days I might attempt the whitening method mentioned earlier and if that fails, paint this over with new decals or hand them over to kids.

Thank you all for pointing out the root cause.

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Whoah, did you actually pull out the tail of your model? I'll probably have a heart attack if I tried doing that on my models

That does seem to be quite a pronounced difference in color, but like the others, I've also seen that in my models, although to a lesser extent.
It was already loose. Piece of junk!!
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So any words from the manufacturer that in future, they will spend bit more and not have this discolor. Don't mind paying $5 bucks extra if they can guarantee that it will not go bad.
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Do not rush to make sad conclusions about the shades of white on some livery. In fact, the white fuselage often has a yellow tint on real airplanes. To a greater extent this applies to JAL, but there are others. I attach a photo of a temporary print of white color on board the "white" Boeing 777 JAL. Pay attention to the difference in shades.
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It looks like JAL’s 2003-2011 Arc of the Sun livery which really is off-white or cream color.
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These models look like white, but the originals are not white.
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So far I don't have this problem. My problem is crumbling rubber tires. I already have 3 models with the rubber tires crumbling. I started a thread about crumbling tires a few years back when the first crumbling started on my Hogan Concorde. The second one is on my IF Air Florida DC-10, and now the Phoenix Aer Lingus Carvair. NB they are all on stands. Anyone experienced these. Any way to repair them? Som sorry to put this topic in your thread.
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So far I don't have this problem. My problem is crumbling rubber tires. I already have 3 models with the rubber tires crumbling. I started a thread about crumbling tires a few years back when the first crumbling started on my Hogan Concorde. The second one is on my IF Air Florida DC-10, and now the Phoenix Aer Lingus Carvair. NB they are all on stands. Anyone experienced these. Any way to repair them? Som sorry to put this topic in your thread.
Yes, I'd like to know as well.
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Do not rush to make sad conclusions about the shades of white on some livery. In fact, the white fuselage often has a yellow tint on real airplanes. To a greater extent this applies to JAL, but there are others. I attach a photo of a temporary print of white color on board the "white" Boeing 777 JAL. Pay attention to the difference in shades.
I would assume the tint to be around tail fin also. Then we can live with "weathered model"
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So far I don't have this problem. My problem is crumbling rubber tires. I already have 3 models with the rubber tires crumbling. I started a thread about crumbling tires a few years back when the first crumbling started on my Hogan Concorde. The second one is on my IF Air Florida DC-10, and now the Phoenix Aer Lingus Carvair. NB they are all on stands. Anyone experienced these. Any way to repair them? Som sorry to put this topic in your thread.
Did you try fitting hogan tires? These are quite easy to obtain because they sel loose sets of gears. Have a bunch of different sizes in my repair box..
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Concorde will be hard though due to large tyres.
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Best tires (for a B747) come from HERPA (article no. 551175).

By the way at the moment at ACB on offer for EUR 7.50
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How about o-rings for the tires ?
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I would think o-rings would work, in fact, Martin Beacom (Small World Models) used to offer a set of different size o-rings for that purpose.
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