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Old 02-03-2018, 10:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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If anyone out there can help identify or educate me more about this model. I have had it for years. It was a mail in cereal box promotional model where you had to mail the box tops from the cereal box and a check for $4.95 back in the 70's..It has retractable landing gears with the flip of a switch. It is 200 scale..not bad for a 40 plus year old model!

Similar to the TOMY 707 I was lucky enough to find recently...

http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...one-707-a.html
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I can't answer your question,but I did find the Corn Flakes ad.
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WOW great find..thank you sir! does it say what year on the mail in coupon?
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Very interesting model.

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Does that bring back memories. Had one like it (but in a different livery) in the 1960's. Alas at that time little brother thought it could fly and tossed it in the air -- with the predictable outcome.
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That is a very cool model! If only they can make retractable gears with doors in 1:200 now..would be great!
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WOW great find..thank you sir! does it say what year on the mail in coupon?
Sorry,I don't see a year.
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Very interesting item,I can vaguely remember similar promotions here in NZ in the 60's and 70's whereas you got little plastic kitset model aircraft in your corn flakes boxes which were no bigger than 10cm in length.
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Old 02-04-2018, 03:15 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Heh heh - look at the Pan Am logo on that cereal box
Plus, I guess the general public back then largely would not have been able to discern between a jet engine and a rocket - imagine seeing flames spewing out from all four engines
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I remember Cheerios offering a Pan Am 747 model when I was a kid. I think it only required two box tops. It was supposed to take 4-6 weeks to arrive and it ended up taking twice that much time. At the mid-point they sent a post card with a picture of the actual airplane saying that due to the high demand they were taking longer to send out the models. I sure wish I had that model and the post card today.
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1958 .. according to this link (however the engines and color look different than the one you have on your model) so maybe this was an earlier promotion

1958 Pan Am Jet Clipper
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That is a very cool model! If only they can make retractable gears with doors in 1:200 now..would be great!
That is absolutely possible but with our demands of realistic visual representation it would involve many flimsy and delicate mechanical components, so that the installation wouldn't be very durable, reliable and last but not least it would probably add another 50 bucks or more to the price.
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Trains!!!!????
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That is absolutely possible but with our demands of realistic visual representation it would involve many flimsy and delicate mechanical components, so that the installation wouldn't be very durable, reliable and last but not least it would probably add another 50 bucks or more to the price.
Actually.... Gemini did a good job with retractable gear on the long discontinued 1/250s. i have the Eastern DC-8-61 and aside from the nose gear doors all open when gear deployed, it's pretty decent and durable too. it even came with a complete set of spare tires.
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Trains!!!!????
We are accustomed to prices of USD 100-150 for widebody metal models. I seriously doubt a manufacturer would let the prices stay untouched while he has to face higher production costs.

Model railroading incorporates a huge amount of mechanical components as it is the nature of the hobby, to let these things drive on tracks. Our hobby just consists of stupid inactive models to collect dust on the shelfs.
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1958 .. according to this link (however the engines and color look different than the one you have on your model) so maybe this was an earlier promotion

1958 Pan Am Jet Clipper
TexAV8R.....Thank you so much for posting that information. HOw did you finf it??? Very interesting to say the least!
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I found this, also from 1958

I remember, vaguely, having this same plane in the 1970s as well by the way.

Had it suspended from my bedroom ceiling
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I found this, also from 1958

I remember, vaguely, having this same plane in the 1970s as well by the way.

Had it suspended from my bedroom ceiling
That's the offer that I responded to when I was 12 in 1958, I conned my mother to go out and buy more packs so that I could cut out the tokens and send off my postal order (money order) for 2 shillings and 11 pence (in todays money) that is approximately 15p UK or 18 cents US.

The model got thrown away when I was a teenager but I found one on Ebay about 15 years ago.
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TexAV8R.....Thank you so much for posting that information. HOw did you finf it??? Very interesting to say the least!
Welcome, I was just googling around
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I remember Cheerios offering a Pan Am 747 model when I was a kid. I think it only required two box tops. It was supposed to take 4-6 weeks to arrive and it ended up taking twice that much time. At the mid-point they sent a post card with a picture of the actual airplane saying that due to the high demand they were taking longer to send out the models. I sure wish I had that model and the post card today.
I had that model, too! I don’t remember it taking so long for it to arrive, though.
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. . . Plus, I guess the general public back then largely would not have been able to discern between a jet engine and a rocket - imagine seeing flames spewing out from all four engines
When I was a kid growing up in that era, any images of jet airliners, fighters, etc., that DIDN'T have flames spewing out wouldn't have been 'exciting enough' to bother with. Me and my schoolmates thought this to be accurate at the time, so all our drawings had to have them.

Yes -- in general, the public assumed all jet engines blew flame exhaust. I sure would be concerned today if I saw flame exhaust on airliner engines!!
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Old 09-17-2018, 05:01 PM   #23 (permalink)
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"Snap" here is mine.

I remember the cost of the plastic kit being 2'11 and associated with a cereal promotion in the UK in the late 50s or early 60s.

I have looked for a couple of years on www for any display of this model with no result until this evening.


If there may only be very few of these remaining might this mean they may be valuable?


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interesting your engines look different..
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Old 09-17-2018, 09:28 PM   #25 (permalink)
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What a lovely model! I hesitate to imagine what this would fetch on eBay! Congratulations on a very interesting and historic model.

Speaking of diecast models, Inflight 200 recently announced its future release of Pan American 707 N711PA. That one, however, does not have a retractable landing gear!
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That wavy blue cheatline very much remind me of my couple of 1:400 Pan Am 707s now consumed by zinc rot
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On a tangent, here's a 747 from the 1970's connected to Kelloggs "Frosties". See 1970 Boeing 747 Model Kit issued in Kelloggs Frosties Looks fairly accurate.
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Here's mine, mint and in original cardboard box.
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Very nice condition.

That's three models seen so far.....

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That's three models seen so far.....
And three different versions !
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On a tangent, here's a 747 from the 1970's connected to Kelloggs "Frosties". See 1970 Boeing 747 Model Kit issued in Kelloggs Frosties Looks fairly accurate.
I had the same one. As you say, it was reasonably accurate for the time. I wonder who made these things.

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