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Old 01-06-2018, 02:31 PM   #1
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This week I was very pleased to receive a Herpa 200 Tupolev 144 to go with my Gemini Concorde, and then I ordered a Dragon 52014 XB-70 Valkyrie to go with them, which arrived today. Itís plastic snap-fit, so I know that it wonít look as good as the die-casts. I like the fact that it comes with a pair of wing tips in either the up or down position, plus two nose probes in case one breaks. It looks like Iím going to have add a tiny amount of glue to these parts, as the way that the spigots fit into the apertures means that they donít snap-fit very securely.

However Iím particularly surprised that the cockpit section doesnít really fit onto the fuselage at all, as there are no spigot and aperture parts to snap them together, so it looks like itís going to require some more delicate glueing. This is worrying as Iím merely a die-cast collector, and have hardly any expertise in Airfix-type modelling at all. I found a post from SuperKungFu five years ago showing his Dragon 52003 Valkyrie: itís nearly the same but with slightly different positioned wing tips, but his model has the fuselage in one piece. So Iíve messaged the shop through Ebay to say that itís broken, but I canít see any more in stock anywhere, so I donít want to send it back, but I fear that my poor modelling skills will make it look less than perfect.

Do you agree that my attached photos look broken compared to SuperKungFuís model?

The box was well packed, so itís unlikely to have happened in transit, and if there had been any damage in transit, Iíd expect it to be to a more delicate part like the stabilizers.

If the seller canít replace it, and I end up having to glue it, would it be reasonable to ask for a 50% refund? It cost me £50. I was really hoping that today Iíd be posting photographs of my trio of 1/200th supersonic angels together instead of writing these tedious emails :-(

Iím a bit nervous about the fact that before it was dispatched, I asked the seller if I could upgrade the postage service, but instead of just saying yes or no, he started getting defensive about how long it was taking to dispatch, even though I hadnít criticized him at all but was merely asking a question. I wonít unfairly embarrass the seller by identifying them, but it seems that itís a model shop thatís only open a couple of days per week so might take some time to get a response. And theyíre in Manchester.

Any advice will be appreciated, and thanks to SuperKungFu for using your photographs.
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Hello, I'm not SuperKungFu but I can confirm that your model is broken. I had the same issue with mine (and also some glue spots

Here is a picture of mine after repair (sorry for the bad picture).

Unfortunately it is almost impossible for me to send models back because for my country shipping costs are insane. A little model (with some good packaging) is very quickly 25-30 Euro's ...
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Thank you for your photo, Leonardo.
Do you mean you had to glue the wing tips, or that your fuselage was also broken?
I hope that mine looks like yours soon.
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The fuselage was broken like yours and 2 nasty glue spots on the front part of the fuselage (1 on the top and 1 on the right side).
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Hi David. I tend to agree that the fuselage is broken. I donít have the 1/200, but I have a 1/72 one. I think that the Valkyrie is a beautiful aircraft, if itís right to call a weapon of war beautiful.

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Yes it is broken as the edges are quite ragged. If the forward fuselage was meant to be separable then the edges should be clean and straight. That looks like 2 parts originally glued together and then snapped apart. Potentially you could repair it by just gluing it back together, it's a question of whether the join line looks acceptable or too gappy.
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Could be worse. You could have paid $300 for this diecast beauty and had the wings damaged in shipping and then have the, very well known, retailer ignore your requests for an exchange or refund.
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One of mine was broken like that (I have both releases). I just glued mine together, break line was very clean.
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Yup same here both of mine needed gluing.
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Could be worse. You could have paid $300 for this diecast beauty and had the wings damaged in shipping and then have the, very well known, retailer ignore your requests for an exchange or refund.
Disappointing when that happens. Did you pay by credit card? You can usually approach them for assistance if retailer isn't being helpful over a defective item. Although in the UK it does have to be above a certain value before they intervene but $300 is a lot of money and should easily be above any limit.
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Oh my God guys, these are terrible stories, especially the $300 die-cast one!
My heart goes out to you but, um, I am slightly comforted at the same time.
If I get any reponse at all I shall ask for a 50% refund, then if I only get a tenner I shall just count myself lucky that it could be worse.

And hi, Neil ó Yes, I think birds of war can be beautiful. Most machines are, especially fast ones, particularly flying ones. I sometimes humanize machines: I compare the front of cars and planes with human faces, so like it when airlines like PSA paint smiles on their aircraftsí noses.

With most civil aircraft looking so similar, itís harder to find beauty, except perhaps the 747 & 787. Thereís more diversity in military aircraft, and more beauty: the Handley Page Victor, Boeing C-17 & YC-14, Ilyushin 76 & Antonov 12.

Iím not a fan of military action, but if it werenít for military manufacturing, there might not be as many technoligical advances in civil aircraft. I canít wait now to get my Valkyrie finished, though I donít think itís as beautiful as Concorde or the Tu-144. I hope the seller agrees to refund most of my money, then I wonít mind as much if there are glue spots.

Which planes do you guys think are the most beautiful?
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Could be worse. You could have paid $300 for this diecast beauty and had the wings damaged in shipping and then have the, very well known, retailer ignore your requests for an exchange or refund.
Can't help myself. Was there an F-104 in the box?
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Quick response...Ouch!!
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Such sellers should get banned from ebay, this isn't normal anymore imo, that is if these were bought off ebay, you can always call ina dispute and ask for a full refund if the seller isn't willing to cooperate, also why I use PayPal & ebay mostly for aircraft I buy in & outside the EU.

ebay & PayPal have great buyers protection that will get you a full refund especially with such dreadful situations.

I hope you can get a full refund man, this should not be possible for a 300USD /Euro Item. also a disappointing shame that such sellers give you bad feedback and tend to lack the needed information to get something like this packed properly and shipped with the correct shipping services.

Personally I was never fond of the over defensive types even by asking a normal question.
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I may stand to be corrected, but are the Sky Classic/ARD Valkyries made by SMTS? if so can you return to them direct to the manufacturer for a repair?
re: above post sometimes you have to accept Schiit happens, I had a Western Ty114 come to me with a broken nosewheel, pictures on ebay looked fine and it was well pack. One of those things you have to accept as just bad luck as broken in transit. Couldn't complain to seller as not really his fault.
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Gold Leader: It was thanks to your excellent posts about Concorde and her sisters that I was able to get the Herpa Tu-144 that fitted my preferences, and then the Dragon Valkyrie which arrived broken. As you can see from the photo, my repair job wasnít too bad, and the seller redunded 10% of the £50 that I paid for her. Although Iíd asked for 50%, I didnít want to waste time arguing further, especially as I wanted to keep the model, as theyíre hard to come by. With the buyer protection offered by Ebay and PayPal, if you get a damaged model and want a refund, donít you have to return it? Iíve avoided going down the full refund route before as Iíd rather have a damaged model (and Iíve got quite a few) than no model at all.

Anyway, thanks for your good Concorde posts. Iím now on the look-out for a Boeing 2707 which Iíve never seen die-cast, or an Aerion AS2 or Boom. I recently emailed the manufacturer of the attached 1/86th model, but they said they werenít allowed to sell them to the public. Have you been able to get any other supersonic passenger jets?
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Gold Leader: It was thanks to your excellent posts about Concorde and her sisters that I was able to get the Herpa Tu-144 that fitted my preferences, and then the Dragon Valkyrie which arrived broken. As you can see from the photo, my repair job wasnít too bad, and the seller redunded 10% of the £50 that I paid for her. Although Iíd asked for 50%, I didnít want to waste time arguing further, especially as I wanted to keep the model, as theyíre hard to come by. With the buyer protection offered by Ebay and PayPal, if you get a damaged model and want a refund, donít you have to return it? Iíve avoided going down the full refund route before as Iíd rather have a damaged model (and Iíve got quite a few) than no model at all.

Anyway, thanks for your good Concorde posts. Iím now on the look-out for a Boeing 2707 which Iíve never seen die-cast, or an Aerion AS2 or Boom. I recently emailed the manufacturer of the attached 1/86th model, but they said they werenít allowed to sell them to the public. Have you been able to get any other supersonic passenger jets?
I've gone with Revell kit for the 2707. But looking onto a Valkyrie conversion for the proposed SST using a Valkyrie converted to passenger use.
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Gold Leader: It was thanks to your excellent posts about Concorde and her sisters that I was able to get the Herpa Tu-144 that fitted my preferences, and then the Dragon Valkyrie which arrived broken. As you can see from the photo, my repair job wasn’t too bad, and the seller redunded 10% of the £50 that I paid for her. Although I’d asked for 50%, I didn’t want to waste time arguing further, especially as I wanted to keep the model, as they’re hard to come by. With the buyer protection offered by Ebay and PayPal, if you get a damaged model and want a refund, don’t you have to return it? I’ve avoided going down the full refund route before as I’d rather have a damaged model (and I’ve got quite a few) than no model at all.

Anyway, thanks for your good Concorde posts. I’m now on the look-out for a Boeing 2707 which I’ve never seen die-cast, or an Aerion AS2 or Boom. I recently emailed the manufacturer of the attached 1/86th model, but they said they weren’t allowed to sell them to the public. Have you been able to get any other supersonic passenger jets?
Hey man anytime
it's that I just look in places where most would not expect to find things the internet is like the universe so many things to find, just went in to Google pictures and looked up various sites to find photo's information of unknown SST's not the common ones like Conkordski, Concorde or Valkyrie but the much lesser known ones, there were tons of designs back in the 1950's throughout to the late 1980's.

Other than that I kinda went the Boeing 747 route since I have more to do with the Queen of the Sky her self, you can check out my latest here:
http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...ml#post2565746

It's that I flew on 3 quite rare models of the B747, but as for Concorde, Tu-144 and others I never really got in to collecting those, so I kind of left it where I left ff after the Hogan Wings BA Landor Concorde, which is Concorde at it's best for me, still I am greatly thankful to Raymond Lim aka Dai Kong for helping me out with that beauty.

Eventho a 1:200 B2707-300 and a 1:200 Lockheed L-2000 as well as a 1:200 Tu-244 would be brilliant, but I think they are extremely hard to come by or you'd have awesome majestic crafting skills and make them from scrap, either it's PVC, wood or even metal, I just don't have such skills nor the patience sadly.

But hey I am happy to have been able of some help for you and that of others, always willing to try ya know
as for the Valkyrie I have the 1:72 model from ERTL/AMT Models , it's not completed due to my arthritis pains I stopped working on it, if memory servers correctly I do have it's decals laying around ina safe keeping spot somewhere tho, just never got to it. since the paint job isn't well done for my doings, my shakiness kind of was a setback for me, even so I am admitting this, I wish I were not like this.
But sadly it just never got completed.
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