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Old 12-23-2017, 10:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I bought this model used and it appeared to be in good shape in the pics with no issues. It arrived with the nose gear floating in the box. No big deal. I have seen that before. Went to reglue it and the break was not clean to say the least. Check out these photos. The rest of the plane is fine, but what in the world could have happened to this gear during shipping. It almost looks like it melted.

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What Model is this and who is the Manufacturer?
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Old 12-24-2017, 12:26 AM   #4 (permalink)
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This is an inflight 200 747sp. Pre-owned, but all pics looked great prior to purchase. It is just very odd........
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I bet it was chewed by a dog or cat.
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Very strange indeed..
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As your thread title states, that is bizarre indeed. Could it have been an attempted repair using some kind of totally unsuitable adhesive, or a poor attempt at ‘melting’ the plastic together with a very hot modelling knife blade? Just speculation on my part, I can’t say I’ve seen anything like this before.

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Old 12-24-2017, 06:24 AM   #8 (permalink)
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If there is no other alternative, the only solution seems to be the Hogan nose landing gear.

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Old 12-24-2017, 11:10 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I bet it was chewed by a dog or cat.
No, it does not appear so. No clear marks on it that would indicate that. It appears truly to have melted. I have no doubt that it was in good shape when it was shipped. The reality is the seller seems to be very straight up, maybe he is on this board, but who knows.

He has said clearly that he will work with me on it. But the main thing I want to do is get it out without damaging the model and replace it. I do not want to damage the model in any way attempting the repair.

This is the 80's colors Qantas 747sp, so it is not like I can just replace the model with another one.
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Get a set of replacement IF gear. https://www.ebay.com/itm/INFLIGHT-20...E/400992549066
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had to replace a few broken nosegears on these 747s in the past. get a pair of pliers, grab exposed piece and very gently make a very small circular movement till freed. be careful not to knock the gear doors off! these are not superglued in. all but 1 came out cleanly.
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Old 12-27-2017, 11:50 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Hello Habu968, just seen this on ebay. I think it is perfect to fix your problem.

https://www.ebay.it/itm/Inflight-200...8AAOxyqOxRuE5M

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Old 12-27-2017, 12:12 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Thanks all, going to look at sourcing another one at some point, for now have sanded down the stump and superglued the gear back on. Temporary solution, until I can replace the gear. Going to order one and see what I can do. I appreciate everyone's input!
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Lol I’m pretty sure it wasn’t chewed by an animal. Maybe you were joking I dunno haha. I would love to see a dog trying to nibble on a tiny nose gear without doing any damage to the rest of the aircraft. Not only that, but a dog wouldn’t cause what looks and was described by the OP as melting.
I think the best answer here is an attempt to glue it using something that really did melt it, or atleast caused some sort of weird phenomenon.

These guys have good advice, it looks like the entire gear just needs to be replaced and you’ll be good to go!
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Ok all, need some help here.... my superglue did not work out as intended. So I have successfully removed the nosegear but the door and gear assembly are one. It is for a 747sp. So I need replacement gear that has the gear doors on it, all the ones on eBay do not have the doors. Thoughts on where to source a replacement?
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Pics of gear and doors. As you can see they are all one piece.
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I've had this happen with Inflight's before....just gotta glue it back on.
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I've had this happen with Inflight's before....just gotta glue it back on.
The landing gear in the front has melted so there is no surface to get it to bond to........so it appears the whole assembly including the doors needs to be replaced.

It appears that when it got hot the gear fused to the door assembly. No way to separate them

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Bored here with all this snow! So I looked at it under a magnifying glass and both pieces are fused together by heat. Going to attempt to separate them somehow.......wish me luck.......��
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I think that one of the solutions would be to get the landing gear set available from Hogan.
It's plastic.

My guess is that the B 747 SP is rather heavy but most of the weight being on the main landing gear, the nose gear should be strong enough to withstand the weight of the model.

Some surgery may be necessary to the nose gear.
DO NOT USE SUPER GLUE, the fumes will damage the paint of your model even if there is no direct contact between the glue and the paint.

Try 5 minute epoxy, you will have the time to adjust the positioning of the nose gear.

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Old 01-22-2018, 03:25 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I have replaced many. Sometimes you can separate the the door from the gear. You are lucky to have had the entire assembly come out. Many I have replaced, the flat base on the gear stays tightly glued in. This is where a Dremel comes in handy or drill. If you ever experience this in the future, use a small drill bit and carefully drill a small hole in the base and screw in a drywall screw gently. Pull on the head of the screw gently to remove the base and clean up the compartment if needed with the appropriate small Dremel head. If you can't get the plate out after this procedure, I have ground down the near gear mounting surface wafer thin and glued it to the old plate (make sure the old plate does not have glue or burrs).

If you see an IF200 747 where it is to high in the front like an old MOPAR, it is because whoever replaced the gear, glued the new nose gear directly over the old plate. Have seen many from retailers or at shows in the past before the new tougher center rod that is more pliable!

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