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Old 08-18-2017, 04:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Does anyone else think we are being overwhelmed by the mass of new models being announced. Our poor wallets are being bled dry.
Too many models too fast. No wonder quality/mistakes are made!
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Old 08-18-2017, 05:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The model manufacturer marketing & sales teams seem to release a lot of new models in the 4th quarter of each year, just before the holiday gift giving season begins.

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Does anyone else think we are being overwhelmed by the mass of new models being announced. Our poor wallets are being bled dry.
Too many models too fast. No wonder quality/mistakes are made!
I think we are being overwhelmed also. Too many new models each month. The other problem is the popular ones all seem to be released in a short time frame making it financially perilous or outright impossible to get all of what you want.

I would like to see the manufacturers concentrate on quality, which seems to be going down lately, instead of quantity. A few good models without pieces falling off or paint smears would be preferable to the monthly model deluge.
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Well they are a business after all, there to make money. Too many models only becomes a problem if they can't sell the surplus or they're sold at a loss because they're dumped.
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Wake me up if they start shouting "The Russians are coming"!
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I am worried when the flood of B737-MAX 8&9 starts in 200 scale.
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Old 08-18-2017, 11:53 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I'm lucky to get one release per year that fits my criteria. If anything, there are way too many models NOT being made. A few hundred pieces per release X 8-10 per month may sound like a lot, but this is for the entire world market. I don't see how we can have numerous "please make" threads and posts alongside this one. If the problem is that you are spending too much, it sounds like at least the manufacturers are making you happy. So what's the problem? The only one who can bleed your wallet dry is you. Try moderation and let the rest of us enjoy availability.

Also, quality and quantity are not mutually exclusive, and neither has to be prohibitively expensive.
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I would like to see the manufacturers concentrate on quality, which seems to be going down lately, instead of quantity. A few good models without pieces falling off or paint smears would be preferable to the monthly model deluge.
There is another problem equally disturbing, despite glaring mistakes, some models continue to flood the market leaving no chance for another manufacturer to make and sell something that looks like the real aircraft.
These "models" are bright, colorful, the "look" very nice but they are completely inaccurate.

The problems have been clearly identified, wing planform, fuselage length, bent fuselage, vertical fins …

So far, nothing has been made to correct anything.
In the long term, I am not sure that continuing to manufacture models with so many known defects will be a winning strategy.
Ignoring the problems will never pay off.

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Old 08-19-2017, 08:33 AM   #9 (permalink)
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to me it seems like quality wise there is only Aeroclassics who offers constant quality. i never got disappointed with any of their models i bought so far.

the DC-8 looks like a DC-8 and the 720/707 looks like a 720/707 (at least for my taste, but i am no expert on these birds).

the question is if AC200 will increase their varieté of moulds to serve the retro market a little better or will they just stick to the basic 720 and DC-8? an output like GJ/JC or even IF200 would not be be wishful for anybody because the danger beeing pulled into the vortex of inaccuracy is pretty high.

to me the basics should be 707/727/737 - those where the bread and butter planes of the past, and all other aircraft would never have existed without the success of these. commercial success leads to inverstments for the development of new aircraft. respictevely 777/787. its good to see that there is at least ONE manufacturer who keeps the heritage of Boeing alive (in a good way) - and that this manufacturer's models still are done in a most acceptabele way. you have to say it: Kudos to Aeroclassics!
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There is another problem equally disturbing, despite glaring mistakes, some models continue to flood the market leaving no chance for another manufacturer to make and sell something that looks like the real aircraft.
These "models" are bright, colorful, the "look" very nice but they are completely inaccurate.

The problems have been clearly identified, wing planform, fuselage length, bent fuselage, vertical fins …

So far, nothing has been made to correct anything.
In the long term, I am not sure that continuing to manufacture models with so many known defects will be a winning strategy.
Ignoring the problems will never pay off.

Jean Pierre.
maybe the option would be to put another registration on the desired model. or using a non-polished fuselage instead of a polished one. but i got you point (see Inflights JAT Caravelle). sometimes you just hope that a manufacturer who cares has the courage to do the same mould as one other - referring to the Caravelle i tend to believe that an AC200 Caravelle would sell desoite the Inflight counterpart.
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There does seem to be a huge rush on at the moment and its not from the JCW /GJ side either. I see a a whole lot of new Inflight stuff, Western Models, Aeroclassics and all them have new moulds which is fantastic news. Apart from DACr Stevec, I cant think of too many people that post their Inflight models anymore especially on the new Inflight moulds. Apart from myself and a rare few, I never see anyone post a 1:200 (new) Phoenix model either. I am hopping this will change
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Apart from myself and a rare few, I never see anyone post a 1:200 (new) Phoenix model either. I am hopping this will change
that's because they usually end up as a btich thread!!! that's why I and several others don't bother anymore. even military section either. other forums not a problem!!
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I am worried when the flood of B737-MAX 8&9 starts in 200 scale.
Yes, concerns of my wallets will arise after the introduction of more B737-MAX. Having said that, I will definitely get them one by one, particularly the Southwest 737 - America's favourite airlines.
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that's because they usually end up as a btich thread!!! that's why I and several others don't bother anymore. even military section either. other forums not a problem!!
This is because Phoenix is honestly uncompetitive in 1:200 scale as compared with other manufacturers. Their 1:200 models are simply the larger versions of their 1:400 models. That said, I will still get the models of Phoenix as long as they offer some models that the other manufacturers do not offer.
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that's because they usually end up as a btich thread!!! that's why I and several others don't bother anymore. even military section either. other forums not a problem!!
Fair enough robertjon. I have had nothing other than positive feedback on my few Phoenix A330's threads I have posted. I cant say I have seen bad feedback on Stevec's threads either on the Inflight A330 either. I rally am looking forward to all the new Areoclassic, Inflight, Western moulds coming out

Hopefully people will continue to post pictures & models reviews on this forum as it helps showcase the model and we can make decisions.

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to me it seems like quality wise there is only Aeroclassics who offers constant quality. i never got disappointed with any of their models i bought so far.

the DC-8 looks like a DC-8 and the 720/707 looks like a 720/707 (at least for my taste, but i am no expert on these birds).

the question is if AC200 will increase their varieté of moulds to serve the retro market a little better or will they just stick to the basic 720 and DC-8? an output like GJ/JC or even IF200 would not be be wishful for anybody because the danger beeing pulled into the vortex of inaccuracy is pretty high.

to me the basics should be 707/727/737 - those where the bread and butter planes of the past, and all other aircraft would never have existed without the success of these. commercial success leads to inverstments for the development of new aircraft. respictevely 777/787. its good to see that there is at least ONE manufacturer who keeps the heritage of Boeing alive (in a good way) - and that this manufacturer's models still are done in a most acceptabele way. you have to say it: Kudos to Aeroclassics!
On the subject of the Boeing 707/727/737 -I'm all in favor of more of these
aircraft being offered in 1/200 scale.

Most especially the Boeing 727-100 !!!
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I welcome any initiatives that contribute to make a good, B 707, B 727, B 737, Comet , Caravelle and Tu 104, any types.

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Yeah, I have had to scale back my collecting in the hobby, finances just cant keep up with all the releases... a lot of nice to haves but have had to learn to become sensible with what I collect... all I have left now is my 1:200 BA collection in a single Detolf...

Down from 2 Detolfs and a Billy Bookcase full of models a while ago, but just couldn't keep up so cut back altogether...
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Does anyone else think we are being overwhelmed by the mass of new models being announced. Our poor wallets are being bled dry. Too many models too fast.
Only buy what you like in terms of your personal preferences, aircraft type, airline and era...
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Old 08-23-2017, 12:41 PM   #20 (permalink)
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The monthly barrage of releases by numerous manufacturers has ruined the hobby for me...I used to enjoy a handful of releases and the anticipation of getting the model over time. Seems the makers are flooding the market, but I guess the market is diversified making sales better in some regions over others. I wonder where the market for buying is hot? Seems like Europe and Asia...once I stopped shipping overseas for Ebay collection sales, my sales dropped significantly. Oh well, I have reverted to buying mostly what I have flown on in 200 and 400 scale and get others in 400 scale I have seen while spotting and like. I also have had some customs made that MFGS. had not produced and search for unique aviation models in various scales and have found I like the hobby a little more since taking this approach. Also it has been rewarding to cut loose some models collectors have been looking for that I have enjoyed and they can now enjoy.
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This ain't new, it has at least a couple of years. JC, Gemini and Inflight bringing massive selection of models. It's hard to keep their steps month after month and to keep track of every model they announce.

Worst thing, in this frantic way to launch the models before anyone, the 3 companies have dropped their quality.
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Even with so many new releases being promised none appeal to me.In a way that's good
as there is little temptation to spend money I can't really afford !

The following would certainly temp me (in this order):

1.BEA Vickers Vanguard (Red square)
2.Air Rhodesia Vickers Viscount 700D (Delivery colors)
3.Swissair DC-10-30 (Delivery colors)
4.EL AL Boeing 747-258 (Delivery Colors)
5.South African Airways Boeing 727-44 (1968 colors)
6.BOAC Super VC-10 (Gold speedbird)
7.EL AL Boeing 707-358B (Turquoise and Dark blue colors)
8.Air Rhodesia Boeing 720
9.South African Airways Boeing 747-444 (Delivery colors)
10.Eastern Airlines Boeing 727-25 (Initial wide hockey stick colors)
11.United Airlines Boeing 727-22 (Late 1960s colors)
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